New Coins System

hokker#1570 wrote: »

d00mster wrote: »

And what about low levels players?
They will only get untradeable silver coins?
Or low lvls bh's rewards gold (tradeable) coins?
This will make much more harder to gear up to high levels and buy items form another players.
Not to mention that there is not many new players in servers, or they are old players alts.

Ok, here we go, let's imagine I'm a new player in PWCH, I will do my quests to level up, in the process I get the level 55,70 and 85 gears just doing the quests, alright, at the level 100 I'll start getting 500,000 silver per day doing BH and I can get more selling suppy tokems at the NPC for silver coins(in china they don't have many trades for the supply tokems) okay, with the silver I got I can learn my skills, and with the silver coins I can pay the taxes to forge the Level 101 Morai gear and the R8gear(yes the other servers do this) after this I'll find a squad to farm the G17 weapon at UP and the R8rr at QSM, and get some glyphs at DH and in the future that TTR-1to get a better gear and sell the drops...... this here is what they want the players do, and this is what the players do, in China, in Russia, in Brazil, in all the countries it works except in PWI xD like I said before, here there are many different things, players have a different mind, I'm curious to see the impact these changes will cause... wonder what will happen when the update come

PW is a really rich contect game but PWE ruined it so many times with our adapted versions.

Yes, and it seems they don't want adapt our game anymore

I dont find the sense to move Belle boss from FSJ to IU.
Actually, a mid geared toon or even an alt, can get the boss from FSJ but will be harder or impossible from IU sqd, with a timed item to enter and OP toons required to try to complete the 19ºBosses, while people doesnt bother to check or learn the instance before join and only thinks on DD.
It takes a while to fill a squad in TT server.

Like I said before, PWCH introduced many hard dungeons that we just ignored "thanks to our exclusive content" but for the others server around the world these dungeons became something ''normal''

i wanna see a bunch of unrefined or low refined morai/qsm/r8rr`s kill boss 15...

hokker#1570 wrote: »

d00mster wrote: »

And what about low levels players?
They will only get untradeable silver coins?
Or low lvls bh's rewards gold (tradeable) coins?
This will make much more harder to gear up to high levels and buy items form another players.
Not to mention that there is not many new players in servers, or they are old players alts.

Ok, here we go, let's imagine I'm a new player in PWCH, I will do my quests to level up, in the process I get the level 55,70 and 85 gears just doing the quests, alright, at the level 100 I'll start getting 500,000 silver per day doing BH and I can get more selling suppy tokems at the NPC for silver coins(in china they don't have many trades for the supply tokems) okay, with the silver I got I can learn my skills, and with the silver coins I can pay the taxes to forge the Level 101 Morai gear and the R8gear(yes the other servers do this) after this I'll find a squad to farm the G17 weapon at UP and the R8rr at QSM, and get some glyphs at DH and in the future that TTR-1to get a better gear and sell the drops...... this here is what they want the players do, and this is what the players do, in China, in Russia, in Brazil, in all the countries it works except in PWI xD like I said before, here there are many different things, players have a different mind, I'm curious to see the impact these changes will cause... wonder what will happen when the update come

PW is a really rich contect game but PWE ruined it so many times with our adapted versions.

Yes, and it seems they don't want adapt our game anymore

I dont find the sense to move Belle boss from FSJ to IU.
Actually, a mid geared toon or even an alt, can get the boss from FSJ but will be harder or impossible from IU sqd, with a timed item to enter and OP toons required to try to complete the 19ºBosses, while people doesnt bother to check or learn the instance before join and only thinks on DD.
It takes a while to fill a squad in TT server.

Like I said before, PWCH introduced many hard dungeons that we just ignored "thanks to our exclusive content" but for the others server around the world these dungeons became something ''normal'

Thank you very much for the info.
Guess we might adapt to the new system and normal PWCN play-style.
Hope it brings balance to PWI and, as a result, more active playing and team up.

Not wonder that PWCH got tired from our adapted versions, which went only on insane sales, making so many players leave the game, since you cannot find squads or partners to join and enjoy the game.
Especially now, that they are going to release PWconsole and PWMobile is out, which may add more new players that will want to join the full pc version.

brantanor wrote: »

Unless it's an MBH, not a lot of ppl run the 'harder' instances, and those that do are usually well geared already (top 5%) and are doing it for the coin.

Same goes for TTR, players don't see the point in running a lot of those, since there is a majority that sees no benefit in going G17 (there isn't really) since the focus of PWI is PvE now, not PvP. There is no need to get a full G17 set since , one, it takes quite a while, two, it's very costly, and three, there is no real benefit in regards to PvE.

Personally, i'd like to get better gear for all of my chars, i'd like to get R9r3 or even G17, IF i had the time and drive to level up one of those to 105, and IF i had the cash to spend on it, and IF i would care about PvP. But i don't give 2 cents for it and i don't have the drive and time to farm all that stuff nor the cash to spend on it. And the majority of players are in that situation.

Just look at the weapons ppl are using. How many have gone for G17, how many are with R9 or warsoul, how many G16. Of all those ppl, how many haven't spend hundreds if not thousands on the final G17 weapon they now own...to mostly play PvE. Those that did get the final G17 weapon are both envied and pitied by everyone else. With that i mean the remaining 99% of the players.

Face it, the mentality of most pwi players isn't the 'grind' one. It's the 'pay to get it or stick with what you can do' one. That won't change because the chinese devs put in another instance that needs 9000 of one item just to make one piece of gear. Most players over here will say 'you can stick that 9000 where the sun don't shine', and they're absolutely right.

G17 weapons are pretty much only pvp, aside from Gof casters which would be hugely benefetial in pve as well, with that being said, yes, pwcn would need to make changes in our version to make stuff easier to obtain, when i say easier i mean reduce the amount of mats to craft the gear in our version, for example, the g17r3 armor requires you to get 40 gold of new TTR 2nd part as long with 100 of the new shard from last boss, the moonlight crystal which gives those armors their exclusive proc is ridiculous low chance drop, as i done at least more than 100 runs by now and haven't seen a single fkin crystal dropped, honestly i thought this thing was off the chest drops untill a psy on Dawnglory get it and a friend showed me on screenshot.

PWCN playerbase is out the charts if you compare to pwi, on pwru there's even queue to get in the server during times of xnw, and those servers people run those instance frequently since its a direct upgrade to their r8rr gear or r9rr, but the problem isn't the interest on our playerbase to get those sets, but the amount of items required to make them was based on the playerbase of chinese pw, and pwi is the server with an absurd low amount of players in comparison to a few other servers, which makes those kind of gear completely impossible to be achieved unless you're willing to drop a **** load of coins to buy the mats of the incredible low amount of squads that runs it and those squad usually go all random or already have a set buyer.

So yes, the future does not look bright for pwi, everyone is comfy with their gear right now as it should be, but i fear that once they make the moonlight crystal more acessible to most of the endgame people that cares for pvp, many of them will switch over, maybe not for g17r3 since its kinda unrealistic to achieve by now but maybe g17r2 since the mats of TTR part 1 is more abundant and easily buyable or farmable. This will create another gap between the playerbase and slowly making pwi stagnate in terms of progression. PWI used to be the server that received update 1st than all others servers worldwide, now Wanmei put pwi and pwru on equal terms, which is not surprising since pwru is basically a carbon copy of pwcn in terms gear and playerbase farming and events ( 70% of all pwcn events never came into pwi, chinese new year events etc).

The only possible solution i can think to solve those problems is to make our exclusive r9 version direct upgradable into g17r3 gear and at least halve the amount of mats needed to craft, this will boost the dimishing player base to farm such gear and create more frequent squads, because as it is now, UPD is quicker and easier coin ( using shenanigans methods), which is commonly used by everyone here in tideswell, but unfortanetely if its not a problem for their chinese players, it will never be fixed for us, gms don't even know how to reset the **** arena season, pwru and pwbr already on the 5th friggin season with new fashion every season and mount, imagine asking to fix the gear situation for us lol, only thing keeping me playing this sht is to chill with my friends after work that i made over the years.

since some people are to bored to use english text on an english forum:

Guys the situation is that PWI has always been an easier "private official" server compared to others and this is not your fault but the company's, PWI has exclusive items or rather unique things that it doesn't have on other servers, since Brazilian server staff practically lives within a dg, is dedicated to getting equipment and something that takes a lot of time dedication and effort. About the currencies I believe you should not worry so much, there are other games that have the same system just adapt and besides you can charge changes from the company that represents the PWI that is totally different from us in Brazil which is LUG a bad company type very bad type very very much same, forum without answers, topics disappearing, GM calling player liar when bug occurs and various things bugged in the game that never fix, here in Brazil is player vs company lol.
But I repeat, do not worry too much about this currency system and it is good to go dg gun G17, future set G17 invest in your character, to be the best, do not stand still never expect everything to be easy, quite the contrary , it has to be hard to be worth it.

have a good day all

hokker#1570 wrote: »

nowayoutgtx960 wrote: »

So yes, the future does not look bright for pwi, everyone is comfy with their gear right now as it should be, but i fear that once they make the moonlight crystal more acessible to most of the endgame people that cares for pvp, many of them will switch over, maybe not for g17r3 since its kinda unrealistic to achieve by now but maybe g17r2 since the mats of TTR part 1 is more abundant and easily buyable or farmable. This will create another gap between the playerbase and slowly making pwi stagnate in terms of progression. PWI used to be the server that received update 1st than all others servers worldwide, now Wanmei put pwi and pwru on equal terms, which is not surprising since pwru is basically a carbon copy of pwcn in terms gear and playerbase farming and events ( 70% of all pwcn events never came into pwi, chinese new year events etc).

In the last update of pwch they introduced a new cross server map(full pk) where we willhave a daily quest where we must escort a bear(and we can be killed by players from all servers in the process -.-) well this daily quest gives an blue item as reward, this item is used to craft the new passive skills that increases attack and skill damage but we also can craft moonlight crystals with the blue item, I think fast people can craft one in 5~6 months maybe(this one is untradable)
and in the new treasure system we will get moonlight crystals too

Jesus Christ man, 5 **** months to get 1 crystal ? can't see anything wrong with that lol. i heard about this new key system, those rewards at the left are 100% rewards based on how many keys you open? that's not half bad implying its a reasonable amount of keys, not something like 2 or 3k keys, do you know how many keys you need to open per tier? @hokker

@nowayoutgtx960 Today I don't know but when the update came it was like this:
Nebula Dust Orb x10 = 100 points
War Avatar Pack B,A,S x10 = 500 points
Nebula Dust Orb x150 = 2,000 points
Nebula Dusk Orb x300 = 5,000 points
War Avatar Pack B,A,S x100 = 10,000 points
Glyph Pack Lv8 x1 = 25,000 points

@heero200 Thanks, I like to share these infos =D

worldofwonder wrote: »

So 6 month work for g17 helmet? If so then i'm fine with that since i don't have 10b+ to wasted on a helmet

6 months to get the crystal that enables the skill of the gear, not the helmet

all item price gold price goes really low in china after this new coin system, is it also possible that pwi will do it here? any dev. pls, give us info.

I can’t log into game atm but, I’m very curious did the new key system have +12 tome in it?
Also, what are the new bundle packs?

I don't have access to the game due download issues, so someone noticed if Jolly old jones is rewarding with gold or silver coins?

just some basic questions like

when you charge and get "boutique" gold and silver...this does not change...????
can you exchange your "Boutique gold" for gold coins or silver coins at the auctioneer..???
and event gold is still event gold...???

so no more "coins" for NPC and player purchases...
silver for NPC purchases
and gold coins for player purchases....
and after 48 hrs cannot switch one for the other....
sorta kinda correct so far...???

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RIP Jolly Old Jones...

The numbers of players have been decreasing yet you're making it worse now. 2 thumbs up for your update! Bye...