unintended DMG to TW HQ Crystal without catapult

wasn't win TW by other means rather than pushing catas being a bannable offence?
i am quite sure some people that were glitching cata pullers had been banned so this should be treated the same way perhaps?
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saxroll wrote: »

tabaloul wrote: »

wasn't win TW by other means rather than pushing catas being a bannable offence?
i am quite sure some people that were glitching cata pullers had been banned so this should be treated the same way perhaps?
@kalystconquerer#0876

The line goes along way of "Deciding winner by non game mechanic is not allowed", which meant you cant noshow wars aka lose on purpose. The one exception was multiple defenses where you could pick and choose where to show but attending least one of the defenses.

I dont think there is anything in TW rules, which would consider seeker glitches as bannable offense but you have that clause in general ToS where you are warned against abusing glitches. So any banning would come trough that way of thinking.

I think its obvious this is a major glitch and needs fixing, any and all abusers also need to have consequences for it. But I wont be holding my breath for either knowing PWEs history with such issues.

i am sure people on tt and da had been temp banned for embeding cata pullers into ground​​

Have half of the TW cristal down to 50% hp in the first 2 minutes of TW by other means rather than cata being pulled, isn't that defeating whole TW objectives gameplay?
Is TW meant to last just few minutes?
What's the purpose of catapults if you win faster and easier by other means? Why is their presence needed in the instance?
What was the purpose of PWCH hotfixing cata pullers so they can't be embed in terrain, if now you can win TW faster without the use of catapults?
In 9 years nobody had ever spammed DoTs to successfully kill TW crystals just because no1 bothered to check until now?
More like you can do that just now thanks to all those heavy debuffs you can stack on something that shouldn't be able to be debuffed?
Debuff to the ground something that shouldn't be able to be debuffed is an intended mechanic?
I'd say more like an exploit ​​

omg idk why ppl qq now
oh i forgot infa lost
who cares man
infa and vindi had a deal to fk crisis up (this isnt abuse???)
im happy i dont play on DA so many **** there
all this fking hate to e/o tells me u havnt RL u take the game to serious
atleast GJ to Crisis for legit win (we use edge months and its funny to see on other server ppl found it out too)
and GJ Infa for QQ like always

saxroll wrote: »

tabaloul wrote: »

i am sure people on tt and da had been temp banned for embeding cata pullers into ground

And like I said, banning them would come from abusing a glitch, not from anything specific to TW rules.

This is obviously a glitch, crystal is not supposed to take dmg from anything but catapults and as such damaging it by other means is unintended aka ability do so is a glitch.

But I dont hold my breath over PWE actually banning anybody, their history dealing with abusers is absolutely pathetic.

yea, i mean they started to punish that so late people already dropped TWs because of that reason...
3 hours (now 110minutes) territory wars ARE THE GAME!
They always had been...
TW is strategy, it's pvp, it's objectives, it's commitment, it's outsmarting the enemy.... not 2 minutes DoT rush on crystal...

Victory or defeat nobody cares if the TW lasted 110minutes... because it had been a whole load of fun, it had been the final reason people put thousands of dollars\thousands of hours of gameplay in this game....

TWs should not last 2 minutes because of a glitch.​​

jsxshadow wrote: »

As I said, not quite a glitch by pure definition. You say the crystal isn't meant to take damage from players when he, in fact, always took damage from players since the game was released. Sure, the damage was extremely low but nowhere does it say that you are not allowed to bypass Damage-reduction mechanics with new implemented game mechanics. That is done daily in multiple instances. Works as designed ijs and thus -> It's a design flaw on PW's end but it's far from being a glitch. I do hope that they fix that tho xD

TBH: As a DA player...IDGAF. Whatever cuts down the stupid TW time is very welcome, no matter which side does it. I couldn't care less.

For all intents and purposes it works as a glitch. Chances are the only reason why we been able hit crystal for any dmg has been because they were unable to code it better at the time or to allow some sort of debuffs like souldegen to be placed on crystal. I suppose one can argue like you but its a silly argument to have, there is no way this is intended mechanic and even if it werent a glitch technically, it should be treated as such and abusers should have consequences in order to try to combat the issue till we get actual patch to fix it. To me this requires a serious threat of consequences in order to combat the issue now that its "well known" - ppl will abuse it if they dont think they are losing anything for it.

While I am sympathetic over DAs TW timeslot issues, combining these two issues is both selfish and silly. Sure, you want short TWs in order to make it to xTW but you guys are 1 of 4 servers. Not to mention this is an actual gamebreaking issue, just because it happens to favor you doesnt mean it shouldnt be fixed asap, even if timeslot would not be fixed.

jsxshadow wrote: »

I swear tho, if by this, Vindicate wins by 10 points or something close to Crisis and we get our helmets denied then there will be Riot. Not from me, idgaf, but many others that will be furious. Ofc, if we lose with 100 points less, no one cares. We lost a potential chance to fight and win vs Vindicate and that's already a bigger difference than 10 =P

First i completly agree that normal tw and txw shouldn't overlap !

However they do and everyone has to deal with it until they eventually change it. In that case crisis had a choice to leave early despite winning in favor for xtw but your faction choose not to and lost xtw points over this. While that sucks big time for crisis, from a strategic perspective it was a mistake to duke it out with infa and if that 10 points will be the factor for being no1 or just no2 at the end of the season nobody but your factions decesionmaker are to blame. It was a gamble and you could have pulled it off and won tw + being not late for xtw but the gamble went south and it is how it is. Nothing to riot about here imho.

The heavy damage from non catapults on the towers and the crystal are most likely unintended but i agree with joe here its nothing to ban people over it until the second a gm/cm step in and declare it an exploit. Until this moment its just the clever use of a game mechanic and im again stunned and impressed how creative some people are to figure out unintented features and put them into use.

From pwi i expect them to adress the XTW dragon rush BS and the Tower/Crystal tw damage issue quickly to the china devs and make them deliver a fix to this. Tw/Xtw are an important core of our game and all the issues above can be revieved as "cheap tactics" from individuals and grew discontent inside the community far over the competetive banter you can expect and it hurts the game and our playerbase as a whole.

Removing jones blessing from the game would help with these "exploits" also players destroying towers and not catapults is something that should be addressed.

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and this is now fixed. took almost a year

topmasterseller wrote: »

What is fixed? DC dragon? TW towers getting nuked for 2 sec? or just edged blur on crystal?

towers and xstal aren't taking damage from players anymore

too bad they didn't fix the focking dragon it's still a **** rushing **** show​​