HOW TO END MY PWI DEPENDENCE

I was told the new base requires 200 million in coins to create (at least) but I have no idea how to even check that.

Given that the new factions are maxed in a day, why not just convert existing factions into the new factions? There are a lot of factions where the population is just not strong enough to score 1000 loyalty points in a week to open the base.

Merit is the total earned over the lifetime of the faction base. The Contribution they had remaining might have been any value, as they were likely spending it on items. I know my merit was over 800k, but I probably had less than 100k left after buying all the things I bought in the base over the years.

The 6 month requirement is annoying, as the people going for the helm already had the merit (or a significant portion of it) and were basically saving up the 490 million. Cutting the cost in half is nice, but tossing months / years of effort in the process is basically just wrong.

AND not everyone who was working on the helm or other base items has the ability to do FSP, UP or DH every day, especially when most squads demand OP characters only because they want to nuke the instance. I have seen non-nuke squads give up trying to get a squad together because after an hour of trying they were not even able to get 6 people in a squad.

Perhaps I should have explained the "Squire Badges useless" comment in that I mean the ones I have saved up are useless to me now. I have the title, I do not need any blood and I have engraved rings, although I perhaps could try to improve those. But I was saving up the Squire Badges because I was perhaps going to try the exams to make the higher level badges or just convert them to a bunch of small glyphs. But as has happened so many times, there was no warning about this happening so my 200 badges are practically useless now.

Since I have hundreds of lucky coins, I could use those and convert them to glyphs, so that addition is not a bad thing per se, although I kind of agree with you that Glyphs should be hard to get. I think the Haspon fight every week is a reasonable challenge for getting 6 level 2 Glyphs.

My g/f said she looked for more than one NPC that she could not find for the new quests. It could be that one or more is in the base, since we cannot get in there. Also, some of the autopaths do not work, but the NPC exists, just in a different place.

As for Cogs, it is not so much about making money, although I know some people still do, but rather about helping others or getting help to farm the cogs. To get my G14 necklace about 20 people in my faction all ran the Cube to get the cogs I needed. (It was an unexpected bit of generosity as I find the cube extremely difficult because of my colorblindness.) To get my G16 however, I need to now do 240 more Cube runs and no one can help. Nor is it possible for me to help anyone else.

And how are you supposed to buy them now? Any new cogs are bound. Which means a person who wants to get a G16 necklace needs to run the Cube once per day for 9 months. If you spend the extra coins, you can get two per day, but that is still expensive. I am sure there is some other way to get it by purchasing packs or the like, but the grinding way now requires 9 months and there is NOTHING anyone else can do to help reduce that.

I am certain that this update is good for big strong factions and it seems that that is the goal, to force serious players into the larger guilds. But that also means that the smaller guilds or those guilds that cater to people who are just casual are being seriously griefed by this update. Factions offer some players a sense of community that does not lend itself to just skipping from one faction to the next. I know a lot of players jump around, and that's fine, but I have had only one faction the entire time I have been on PWI and have no desire to change.

The fact that billions of coins and millions of merit from years of effort was just wiped out without any consideration for how that would affect a large number of players just feels like the last straw after so many similar moves by PWI. Hopefully PWI will come to their senses and eliminate the 1000 point entry requirement or at least drop it to something anyone can do. For example, why not make EVERY BH run count points towards the opening so EVERYONE can contribute, not just OP players.

Thanks for the response.

Cheers!

Thanks for all the comments.

I stayed off for a week and broke my insatiable OCD-like need to check in all my toons every day. I wont be getting the annual reward this year, so no need to worry about being on the game or not every day. I already feel lighter *smile*.

My faction theoretically has enough active players to open our base, but it will take everyone being online every day for a week to get the points. Pretty unrealistic to expect that to happen, but we are going to give it a shot.


FYI: As far as I can tell, each toon in a faction can get 10 Loyalty Points per day (maximum). This means a maximum of 70 Loyalty Points per week per toon. The "easiest" way to get the 10 points is to kill Mushi in Flowsilver Palace. This must be done with at least one other person in the squad from your faction or you get no Loyalty Points.

**IF** you can get 8 to 10 players all from the faction into a single squad and kill Bella in FSP three (3) times in one week, then you can get a bonus of 300 points.

So, in theory, 10 faction mates can open the base if at least 8 of them (with the help of up to 2 non-faction ringers) are able to finish FSP in Judgement mode 3 times. [10 x 70 + 300 bonus = 1000]

**It is also possible to solve this problem with 8 OP people, getting additional bonuses of up to 300 Loyalty Points total, but it cannot be done with fewer than 8.**


Even if we get the base open, I still think this should be changed. Either lower the required loyalty points or create more ways to achieve them. A Player should not have to be RB 1+, Level 100+, Arcane Sky I+ before they can generate Faction Loyalty Points. Every member of a faction should be able to contribute.


Cheers!