Multi-Clienting Temporarily Disabled - Discussion

if this is about "suspicious activity on arc" wouldn't the solution be to just shut down arc? nobody wants that bloatware trash. omg did i just solve all the problems here?!

because i guarantee you i'd rather quit this game than play via arc. i played using the startbypatcher command as did all my friends before they all quit. help the game by just removing arc or ruin the game by forcing it on anyone dumb enough to take it.

So As a player from Beta Arch Server, late 2007. I have spent much $ here and many more spend more then me I might have spent 2-3k witch is alot to some and few too others. I used wisely as i could. Now the point of all this is. Some people do this to more then one account and would make teams of their own because if pwi taught us anything is not all people can be reliable. So we cover our backs and do it our self, since many spent alot of money on more then one class to complete the end game goal, taking away multi client feature is almost like saying here we are taking away all your seats in your car just yours will be left and your family will have to suffer once at a time. Thats what your doing to the pwi right now, all those accounts who spent alot of money, yep goodbye that slows down their coin and it's already really bad making money in game if you dont spent for Gold. If you wanna put a stop to abusers and keep a happy medium, put a cap of 4 cilents or 5 max and have your Game Tech deal with tracking that exact number. I have seen the impacts of people leaving game hence the merge of LC and Sanc, you do this and it will be all 4 servers or more into 1-2 . You kill the game by limiting people. The Internet was ment for breaking limits not making them. Don't go back into stone ages. pwi i love you but this is not how i play, one char, no merchant, no help, no bp . .. no xXUmekoXx . TW Server -

Its sounds a lot like their potato code got compromised and somebody figured out a way to access other ppls accounts. Short of this being some mass phishing incident, which I doubt or they wouldnt be doing anything but reminding players, they are likely underplaying how dangerous this is for account safety. Cause they claim their DB was not compromised and if thats true, pretty sure only way there would be suspicious activity is if somebody bypassed the login somehow with access to any(?) account they desire. Yes, sounds like doomsday talk but whenever have you seen PWE lift a finger over anything that wasnt actually massive issue?

As for other games to play, the single player RPG from PS and older nintendo hand consoles has pretty amazing MMORPG. Main problem with it is you cant run it on a toaster like you could do with PWI. Its bit older title but its one of the more popular MMORPGs currently and has plans for more expansions to come, next one likely being ~year from now. So now would be perfect time to start playing as there is almost overwhelming amount of content to get trough, specially if you are into crafting and stuff too. Well, its subscription based but if you cant dish that 15 bucks/month, I dunno wtf you are playing PWI for where costs are so much worse if you didnt start playing on the last decade pretty much.

Enough of this BS...its time for someone to tell us why the game is being slowly chipped away at and destroyed! Before we have to use our cash/ money in mall. Come on tell us CN who ever you are?
BTW people they do not have to give us back a single penny in this game. And they can close done this game and owe us nothing. Think its in the game guidelines when you sign up to play.

Wellp, I was hoping that somehow, maybe, the game might finally take a good turn, making people work more together as well... man.... even ppl who hardly even played anymore, started to be more active with all the new content!
And now you do this...
Congratulations PWI, you have reached the morons lvl 9000.
If all the **** you have done in the past (and let's face it, there was a lot) didn't kill this game, this will most definitely do.

This is so disappointing, since I really enjoyed this game...

i played swordsman private server 2008

Well I been playing on and off, but now no multi client? the fk rip my shop, rip my runs! bye pwi for most of us?

An almost senior player speaking here: this is NO longer the game I love! Sorry but I noticed with this last update right away how long it takes just to switch characters, the login screen is way too busy and PWI killed decomposing OHT gear! Why? It was a part of the economy since who knows when. Just look at my forum avatar, it's an old SS from before NW.

@kalystconquerer#0876 , like it has been said, you're not being clear about the suspicious activity and from what I can gather, it has to do with Arc and what, people are bypassing it? What is the big deal that you(I mean PWI), have to shoot yourself in the foot and stop multi-clienting totally? LOL I'm pretty much at endgame anyhow, not in the sense of gear, but yeah, my nuema ia almost maxxed, RB2, blah blah blah. I'm not logging to do dailies and bh's and caves for 2-3 hours or even 4 hours a day. That time is past. I still have one or two things left I want done(WS wep, whatever), but of course I want to get another character up there in gear, culti and it's hard to that without multi-clienting(I can solo SoT and have my 2nd toon in tow).

I don't care for this last update especially, and the one before, meh. I'm glad I could get the Neverfall culti done and nice skill upgrades and all glyphed, but the general content is lacking, all geared towards power creep, just getting a bit more OP than the next guy. Maybe I'll take a break and just log Jolly toons for the next 6 months, I don't care. I have spent some money on this game, but it was what I WANTED to spend it on, not what everyone else is doing(my gear is all farmed).

When the DQ system was taken away and drops no longer had value was the beginning of the end. I mean, you can't even load up a plain old image from your computer on to this forum in this Arc format. As far as Arc is concerned, it's a way to police and keep tabs on what we do here in PWI, if I'm wrong, sue me, but I don't think so.

Any normal MMO has some kind of drop/make coin from drop system, i.e. dq items, gear, pots, whatever. I'm starting to go on a rant so I'll rap it up with this: players(long-time, loyal) have made suggestions, revamp Nirvana, bring back coin valued items(I know JOJ was put in place to offset this but come on, even gear and pots with no coin value?), etc. Maybe it's time to listen PWI.

One of my ideas would be to make OHT more viable and have special/rare gear that could be farmed(or mats to make those rare gears and sets) in OHT. Have certain dailies every day, but the mobs needed or that dropped said mats would change. A way to break from the cookie cutter endgame gear. Not everyone wants to get R9 and PVP everyday, LOL. Another thing would be to expand the normal questlist in the worldmap, bring more content besides instances to upper level players(100+). With that said, good luck with the Non-multi-clienting, you're going to need it PWI. o/

kalystconquerer#0876 wrote: »

And I was a part of that player ecosystem of using a second client. I run a second client to sell items.You're preaching to the choir with regards to the impact that we're painfully aware of. CN was also worried greatly about the impact since they had this feature built into their platform already (multi clienting).

The type of activity we noticed was enough to put this measure in place, so this should key you in on how serious this was.

Its not your fault either, its just that there are so many frustated players and no one to hear their voices or give appropiate response.
You may not have the authority on decisions but atleast you are kind and pretty much the only staff member that responds anymore.(/?)

So they take it out on you even though you didnt do it or had the power to change that decision. You are just being butchered here like bad news bearer.

It would be nice if you could tell other staff members to be active here aswell and tell us more about stuff and answer questions and take suggestions as well as point out which ones cant be implemented and why not.

It would just be nice to have more ppl we all support and provide salary to with our money, to talk to us ?
Is that too much to ask ?
Just be active and interact with ppl who play your game and be more clear about game ?


I see that the devs and moderators are much more active on other games like neverwinter and all, look at your twitch stream. How much pwi gets streamed compared to other games.

if its really that hard, just hire ppl interested in pwi to begin with, rather than forcing the ones that like neverwinter and such to pay some attention here too.

It just feels like PWI is taking away every bit of way we got for making money or farming. Even pack openers cannot find enough avenues now to sell all their stuff easily. Maybe no one will open packs as much because we cannot sell it faster enough cos.. we dont even have enough space to sell all our items.

kalystconquerer#0876 wrote: »

I'm going to be monitoring the progress of the maintenance now and then checking when the fix goes live. I'll come back tomorrow to address any replies I missed during this time and then (plus, I'll have to be on tomorrow anyways to run Scholarly Challenge). As always, be sure to be respectful of each other and keep the criticisms constructive and meaningful. We'll be collecting all this feedback and seeing what actionables are available for us to take, not just for now but in the future.

Of the topics of interest I'd like to collect information on will be the following -
1) Suggested Number of Multi-client Options
2) Arc Platform Improvements (such as exclusives, meaningful content etc.)*



* Please note on Arc Platform Improvements these will mostly be things like - making items/packs/content to give for being in the Arc ecosystem and seeing what sorts of features are in CN's platform. I am aware there are very extensive programs and scripts that will most likely NOT be in Arc, which includes things like the "Perfect Helper".

This is a very harrowing and difficult situation for everyone involved and I hope we can not only come to a speedy resolution, but turn the overall Arc experience into something positive for users going forward.

you dont even NEED player input for this. this is just distraction because they wont even consider what is suggested here because it will make too much sense.

1) multi-clienting should have never been a thing, save for having a shop account. current (as has been for quite a few years) limit is 2. it makes no sense to increase the limit to 6 unless PWE is going to officially take the stance that they support ppl solo'ing instances without having to involve another player. this is RATHER illogical for an MMO. the RULE as read off by CM after CM has been 2 clients logged in at any one time, one playing the game, and one as shop or some other task. why increase that limit if it will continue to destabilize the game. most of the people causing all the disruptive economic and hacker-y like situations at the ones running like 10+ clients from the same system.

2) ARC platform improvements: make it work. make sure the functionality is present AND TESTED EXHAUSTIVELY prior to implementing any change in user experience.

3*BONUS*) stop treating this playerbase like ****. that would go a looooooong way. 9 or so years now and its been deflect deflect deflect, smoking CMs like cheap cigarettes, encounter a problem, solve it by creating 2 new problems and half solving the first.

at some point you hit rock bottom.

so do we get up for xTW or not? ooo.oooo

The one common factor I see in most for the PWI **** jobs, is a serious lack of attention to how the changes made or expansions built, will affect the players and the game. You spend some much time putting out fires that should have never been started. I understand this is not mainly centered around the 6v6 snafu, but even that....what did you think people would happen with an event planned so poorly and without insight of any kind as to how the event could be manipulated. You are in dire need of consultants and or beta testers to produce a better product. Stop being reactive to the **** ups and start being proactive in preventing them. Bring back multi clienting or me and my family will find another game to play...and not one of yours.

somebody bring back that old "soon" meme. this is the perfect opportunity for it.

Of the topics of interest I'd like to collect information on will be the following -
1) Suggested Number of Multi-client Options
Easy answer: 3 accounts
Complex answer: 2 simple accounts with no/nearby no amount of cash in wallet
plus 8 accounts if these accounts owning a specific charged amount for PWI

So people who also paying for this game getting more options.

2) Arc Platform Improvements (such as exclusives, meaningful content etc.)*
Security
Main improvement which should going on are the security options.
This is why I am already using arc since it was available.
I highly expect that you will be up-to-date for all these security matters.

Friend/Family Option
Implement a friend/family option for sharing account with different security levels in ARC by combining such ARC accounts.
Your game content and player base community is not designed for single player mode anymore.
In addition, also allow to combine the own accounts (as mentioned under topic 1) for having a full picture of these accounts).

Arc-Quest
Remove this option. It is just annoying with all these messages and rarely involving PWI features.
and dont bring to much things into arc client. It just will give attackers more options to find exploits.

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So, I just woke up and normally playing PWI in the morning on weekends - during week its even hard to logon due to work.
Sad to see that you still working on emergency part on this issue because its existing for years now. For me, this hasnt an emergency character anymore and I am sorry to see how rude some people act in this forum ...