[PSA] Important - Possible Changes And Updates Coming to PWI

@kalystconquerer#0876 can we please look at putting ALL the Starchart items back into the normal Primal dailies?

I mentioned this before in another thread what the devs did to dailies was a terrible idea. As it stands if you have complete and total poor luck it cost 500g on sale 1000g off sale for 15.0 aptitude on a starchart. Newsflash before this update MANY people were able to farm this and level 50 chart easily because tower would give some here and there but the brunt of aptitude and exp came from the Primal world dailies. Sure it was very tedious but it is better than this broken system now. Tower gives me less Aspira lvl2 pearls now because it’s been flooded with worthless aspira level 1 pills which are useless to most players and easily farmable for 10 aptitude on a starchart. I already bought the 1k gold needed for 20.0 but cannot farm the 15.0 on a new toon for free like 90% of the whole playerbase did. This completely makes new toons have a massive disadvantage because our starcharts and exp gain is moving like 5x slower than the older players did. As it stand I used to farm more aspira level 2 perals in 1 week than I do in a month now. How is this in any way right? Please put all the Starchart items back in Primal dailies or atleast pass it on. This change makes no harmful impact on the community and I’m sure many would welcome this

Also increase the chance of Starchart items in transmutation. I transmutation hundreds of items only to get maybe 20 aspira lvl2 and maybe 290 exp which Starchart needs over 6300 exp to max. But when you trade years of items for just that? Completely ludicrous.
Adding nuema items to the high tier of transmutation is also a good idea. We get the lower ones we don’t need from the lower transmutation all the time it would be nice to be able to recycle them.

Charge rewards, can you add zenith shards roughly 30-45 points will do, so a skull would be 300-450 which isn’t too bad considering it’s a bonus and not directly paid I know quite a few people would like more skulls on server. Also, replace aspira pearl lvl1 with the lvl2? As I stated earlier 10 aptitude via level 1 is not in the least challenging but 15 aptitude Vita lvl2 especially right now is nearly impossible.

This is a great thread to see-- gm asking for our input and showing current progress of updating things for us... Thanks.

As far as what I would change:

Cosmetics:
Having version specific fashions, mounts, fash weps, or flyers does sound -very- cool. I know we have 1-2 version specific mounts already, so maybe design contests for the rest would be fun, or just holiday fashions, beyond the 6 year old singular halloween fash... Ofc there will always be some ppl that want to complain about the results of a contest but, some people just seek to be miserable. They shouldn't ruin the fun for all of us. So just in general, unique cosmetic items would be cool.

Cosmetic HS updates: someone mentioned fish before.. That sounds awesome! Fish, Animals, birds... a big part of HS is the cosmetic/customization/creativity part that interests a lot of people-- either they love it, or they only use it for farming skills and they're out. So... give the people that love it, more to love about it. A lot of the "festival"/holiday decorations are very... china-centered. Banners written in Chinese, Chinese lanterns or foods.... these are really, not relevant to most of us, lol. I am not very thrilled over a dish of food I dont recognize. But adding some items for holidays we DO celebrate/are relevant, or adding animals (cause who doesnt love tf out of animals?????) would definitely get some people back in their HS, farming a few quests to get the bunnies they want, or participating in St Patrick's Day events to get their Goofy Leprechaun statues...

Gear:
The points made about the availability of star chart items are very true. PWI has been encouraging people to make new and viable alts, as well as for new players to catch up easier through introducing new and faster ways to get skills, character locked FSP rewards, buffed vitae chain quests, more exp options in FF/FC and PV, new ways to obtain G16 gear.... basically, to catch an alt up to speed with current mains has been made pretty easy lately. I even created my own new alt this year, having fun with a new class, and spending money to improve it. The only problem here is that the star chart mats HAVE been nearly completely removed, whereas they used to be so ubiquitous that people had stashes of the various spira pearls. Now, it's like that's been overcompensated for-- now the characters that need them can't get anywhere near the amount they need to catch up to current players. While I can understand the want for players to spend coin in the cash shop on these items, the quantities and prices are just much too high. I could see someone splurging and buying "just the last 10/20/xx I need.." rather than "well, I need 400.... guess I'll just give up and never get it."
-- So adding these back to some or all of the primal quests, buffing their appearance in Heavenfall Tower, or adding them with greater frequency in low transmutation/high transmuation, or rewards from farming HS (similar to the Minion storage function, not as reward to higher level quests-- not every new alt can spend so much time maxing a HS) would really help. My new alt is great, getting ready for r9... but I think she'll be the only R9 on the server without a 10-15 aptitude star chart... instead taking MONTHS to get from 6-7... I guess I will never gear her out to the teeth for PVP, if I cant catch up to the current meta of most pvpers.

Also another point is removing some of the Arigora score restrictions on manufacturing mats-- or adjust how these scores are calculated for the population of players PWI has. Currently the amount of players capable of crafting some of these mats due to score is so few that the gear is nigh unfarmable, even for the majority of players that participate in the system. Making less motivation for other players to join in...

Instances:
Here is the fun part for our version... the international version I think would benefit greatly from adjusting several instances specifically for us.
UP: Increasing the drop rate of skulls. There are simply not as many squads running DUP as needed to farm as many weapons as there are people trying to farm them. Many of us are bottle-necked at the need for skulls+draconic essences. Simply increasing their drop-rate would mean they dont need to be added to the cashshop and people would still be forced to interact with the instance to get their mats. Making these also available as rewards for other tasks or in other places is a possibility, but simply adding them to charge rewards would be no bueno also-- that again means people only have to spend money to receive them, and the instance would die (just like Nirvana...)

Homestead/Minion Arena: Similar to Arigora Arena, Minion Arena is set up to reward points based on CN's population. This makes our version of rewards nearly impossibly to obtain at the highest level. On ET we have 1 player whose minions are far and beyond stronger than the rest of ours, due to tremendous cash shopping to increase her fights every month... and yet even she, who has invested that much time and energy and resources into her minions and this system, caps out at roughly 2-2.2k points each month. While the system is supposed to reward up to 3k. Its just not possible to get that high, no matter what you spend. So re-working that so that we can actually obtain the rewards, would encourage more people to engage with the system.


Nirv/QSM/FF/FBs: These instances are so out of date for typical players that probably the only reason people enter them lately are for titles. The drops are either useless or so rare that they arent even farmed. They are great opportunities to add some things that players need, while keeping them enjoying the game. Some of these instances are even nostalgic for me, it would be great to see them re-purposed so I can take my alts through them. In the cases of most of them, adding star chart mats, even lower amounts of exp or pearls would make them worthwhile to enter. Adding low occurrence of UP/HS mats would also help-- maybe adding the HS locked versions of mats, so that a player doesn't have to farm 9 alts HS's just to get enough mats to keep up with daily UP farming. Skulls and Draconic essances could be worked in for qsm/nirv maybe. And increasing the drop rate of average QSM mats for the lower versions-- I know since the Transmuation system has been added, people do attempt to farm Lower lvl QSM, in order to spam nuemas on alts, or get useful pots.... only to spend however long in a QSM instance and get 0 drops. Not even from bosses. It will be a hard sell to convince that person, that just spend 30min-1hr farming an instance they dont even need, only for 0 reward, to set foot back in there again. XD


Misc:
The point about adding DQ items as a possibility to transmutation is an awesome one-- not because I have stacks of these saved up or anything (I know people used to have these squirreled away but gave up hope completely and NPC'd them years ago..), but because it really strikes me as an out-of-balance, nonsensical game when all the mobs drop items that are completely useless? I have a hard time explaining to my friends that tried to play this game what all the drops "were" for, when, they weren't for anything now. "So then why dont they just take them out of the game?" ...Um, idk. It definitely feels like DQ items are kind of, an oversight currently? I would feel really great if PWI could recognize this and utilize them in a system to show "look, we are paying attention, we do see what's happened here, here's a new solution." Originally DQ prices were nerfed to combat coinselling, botting, and inflation-- adding them as transmutation items will keep to that, since transmutation items are bound. Even if they were just Low Transmutation items-- this means a faster way for new toons to get their Nuemas/Meridians up, or for older players to get those OP PVE pots. It would basically just make catching up faster.


Sorry it's a long read, but I hope some of these points could help make our version better suited for us as its players. Thanks Kalyst.

My ideas for coin sinks, fashion, instance earning, etc:

-Transmogrification. The ability to rip a skin off of a weapon or armor and apply it to your existing armor( or even fashion slot). Each transmog action to rip and transfer would cost coin, depending on the level/quality it is. Coin sink!

-Elemental-themed fashions/mounts/aerogear. If you're looking for fillers for events/seasonal/whatever, consider elemental-themed prizes or gifts of each of the 5 elements that Perfect World recognizes: Wood, Metal, Fire, Water and Earth. Examples would be an aerogear for Earthguards that is made up of leaves or flowers(representing Wood), a fashion weapon for Barbarians or BMs that is a steampunk sledgehammer(representing Metal), an outfit that has verious bits of animated flames on it(representing Fire), an aerogear for Nightshades made up of floating bubbles(representing Water), or a bear made of rock(representing Earth). Many more ideas can be applied to elemental-themed items.

-Suggested it before, but I think it's worthy of repeating: Increased reputation rewards from FB tablets. Reputation chasers will be more motivated to help newbies or to team up for squads if this incentive was applied.

-This might be tricky on the Chinese developer's end, but new fashuion slot: Transformations. These could give your transformation skills(Tiger Form, Fox Form, Tide Form, Devil Form, etc) different appearances. Wolf Form for Barbs, Octopus Form for Tideborne... for Devil Form alterations, it might be better to get creative with them, like desining different shapes of demon or offering other spiritual forms like a grim reaper.

-Let us exchange DQs for event gold. 1 DQ-1 event gold.

shapoopi wrote: »

hello kaly,
Thanks for trying to make this game better, but you really need to talk to them about updating our NPC's since they really outdated i mean like as an end game player i dont do anything with supply token other than getting the 105 buff and i dont do anything with pwi boutique agent other than getting hp pots.
NW forges XtW forges, pwi boutique agent these three npcs need some kind of update or adding extra stuff to them,
need to put in mind that not everyone can farm all day or play the game 24/7.
like make g17 mats available with perfect token of luck or supply tokens
S chest/A chest or Dull Zenith Skull with perfect token of best luck
or exchange Glyps with tokens or supply tokens.
arena coins trade with Tokens or Lucky coins.
this will make the game easier

Another thing i would love to know can we get another rebirth for A set ? that will help balance the game since NP set is not easy like it used to be..

noooooooo, what happened to nirvana when canny/rap were craftable with supply tokens? want that to happen up UP and DH? i'm all for suggestions that help f2p players but not by killing instances! Unless the ratio is stupendously high!

Though untradable card packs for supply tokens is a good idea.

The most annoying issue I came across is the new players gear progression.
After getting to 100 and having morai/qsm gear, your next job is to make an alt to farm Jolly for months, to have enough coin to buy TT mats.
Telling this to new players in guild sucks, they are better off quitting the game, cause they wont be able to use their characters they leveled without gear. Primal vitae quest mobs will oneshot them, normal FSP aoe will oneshot them.

What I suggest is a full set of TT99 character bound(non-tradeable all the way in practice, not only in theory) gear as a level 100 reward( or some other method, similar to qsm85, not too hard, character bound, easy to get help for it).
You can even make it once per account, non-tradeable, this way it affects even less the TT farmers.
The new players will still need to farm NW and Warsong, but they will stand a chance to do so and it wont seem like an unachievable goal.

TT is not farmed by new players, it's farmed by the middle class, and they sell to themselves and to new players. But new players don't have the coin to buy anyway, so the middle people can't sell the mats either.

A new player in guild, despite our suggestions, was tempted into charging and got himself enough coin to buy TT99 boots for his aps sin. He sadly missed the free gear code, and of course those boots didn't make him able to farm TT as an income source, so he felt disappointed. Another member charged even more to get a g16 weapon, and used the free gear code too. He naturally felt more tempted to continue, being able to g15 the free armor and start farming warsong.

In a free to play game, paying shouldn't be a requirement to enjoy the content most players are at.

AH Coin Cap - The devs have said this can be adjusted. They ask for what the number should be increased to and any important information they should know beforehand. Since this will impact the economy, this will need to be done carefully.

I was actually up for this until i saw first hand and almost in real time how this got abused.

I can't remember when it was but i want to say 6 or 8 mill anyways Ah i went to sale my gold just barely under the max and as quick as i hit refresh it was sold when i looked at the screen i notice one person was literally buying all the gold up in AH and selling it max i'm not joking hell of abused aka monopoly so bad ideal.

Transmutation (PWI specific exchanges) - Can be done, but they would like to have data on the amount of items that exist in the game for whatever is being suggested to be transmutted. Some of the items I have already pulled information on (DQ) and some items will need to make sure are noted (Fairy Boxes), so this would be a good chance to get in items that aren't in the CN Transmutation NPC that we have use for.

I remember posting this about Dq but lowering the drop rate to avoid boting and abuse turns out i been transmutteing like an insane amount and on every toon i have yet to this day to get a single 8 star lol so i dont think dq adding it to the list will hurt anything id definitely make it higher lv dq

Homestead Updates - They would like to know what ideas we have in mind to improve Homestead. This is a great opportunity to suggest possible features and updates to this system. While we still have to keep some of the CN limitations in mind, just having a dialogue about it could open up creation of new and more useful features to get the most out of the Homestead feature!

Sims interactive environment would be amazing and make this game super addictive id like to sit at a table with faction members maybe even sit and eat with people etc

Custom decorations can be made, but will not be present in the codex.

Bank/Cupboard Expansion - Can be done, but they need details of how much to be expanded to since bank space is involved in a lot of different areas (their words "procedural framework") and they will just need a heads up on it.

i want sort option in the Cupboard Expansion and i want to see max out slots on cat shops i get annoyed there's 2-3 slots with red circles and a line thru them i can't use in the cash shop cat shops that you buy for cash shop gold.

On few other things i did show you veno pets flyers and mounts cough in another version of this game like to see that content in here like spooky ghost and Dark black wolf etc as for fash how about some mortal kombat looking ninja and anime looking fash from famous animes? some fash from bleach ,sailor moon with just enough change not to infringe on copyright lol

And please un nerf Bh1 ecstasy cards drop rate as not being able to repair your gear sucks also with what coin am i supposed to learn skills lol i was like ohhhh cool i can now get books from eu and aeu i have a bank literally filled with books of skills i cant afford to learn and the market is so flooded with books can't even sale books for coin literally sale it to npc or give it away in world chat lol

we have gender change stone, name change stone,
why not a class change stone?

1.class change stone (and relative gears switch so you can use them on new class)
2.downscale literaly everything to match western playerbase figures
3.arigora rewards even for solo arena queue

and i mean it, solo arena queue needs to be pushed is way better respect all the other arena modes and it doesn't need you to wait another premade team of your score to queue up​​

Also the ability to designate part of your HS as a non safe zone so you can create your own pk arena would be super cool I think

This game really needs to make account selling legal and make PWE put a tax or fee on the account selling so they gain money too. I know A LOT of people who quit but want to buy an account and come back but they don't do it cause ppl will report and try to get them banned cause buying/selling isn't legal. They don't want to spend months trying to catch up either so they just never return...

What option is better?
a. Someone quits PWI and the account is left to rot.
b. Someone quits PWI, sells account to someone else and the account gets permabanned and left to rot.
c. Someone quits PWI, sells account to someone else and the new owner plays and cash shops, PWE gets money from the account again.

I think everyone agrees c is the best option....

This also immediately solves the problem of Harshlands players being stuck on EU server... they can sell their EU accounts and buy ones on US server. How many HL quit cause they unable to play on EU hours?? a lot really. You don't even need server transfer stone or other complicated stuff.

Buy/Sell accounts is legal on china and even at a 20-30% fee from PWI is fair this way more new players come or returning players. Heck ppl would farm up dailies on multi toons just to sell them to csers who will buy r9 ect ect from Pwi

Honestly what I meant in my post by third party coins coming in is the players posting on third party sites in order to sell coins and toons for cash.
PM me if you need links to these sites.

Something needs to be done about this since I can name a couple of toons which appear to be bought and sold frequently.

If PWI made the selling of coins and toons legal via a blackmarket agent would bring in a ton more profit for the company altogether. A simple fee to transfer coins and or toons to another player would make a ton of profit and encourage players to spend cash to pay another player for a toon and ultimately lower the risk and raise the number of buyers for said items.

@greenfire312
and as far as spirit points go as mentioned in the post above it is unneeded to remove it altogether. The phoenix valley sanctum token is spammable and gives 45mill spirit per token, with a max of 10 each day. With no spirit people could spam make genies and would lower the price on the higher level genies which is highly unneeded.

Also, BH rewards.

Since they were nerfed, can you tell them to get rid of those War Avatar Orders from the reward? No one uses them, and you get them from tower anyway.

nociro wrote: »

REMOVE the god damn warsoul items from tower. Blessings too from room 108. Useless annoying stuff for our version. Replace it with spira pearls lv2 or something thats useful for us. I cant stand it when I get those rewards. So much work only to get unlucky with an item you might as well NPC.

This too.

Spamming the expensive PV token for genies sounds like a terrible idea. Rather buy an overpriced genie.

nociro wrote: »

Spamming the expensive PV token for genies sounds like a terrible idea. Rather buy an overpriced genie.

cost less also

Ok, before I start, I'd like to give @kalystconquerer#0876 a HUGE THANK YOU for everything you are trying to do for this game and the entire playerbase . We needed someone like you, I swear you're one if not the best GM we ever had.

Now, I've been reading alot of the comments and there are some really good ideas I would like to support. It's going to be alot so I will break it down in 2 or 3 different posts. So I'll apologize in advance for the upcoming China Walls of Text xD.

In this 1st Post, I'll start with:

dingo488 wrote: »

Personally I would love for PWI to add Build Templates.

Basically how it works is you save your current gear set-up. (All armor pieces/Weapon/Cards/Star Chart/Blessings/Glyph set up) And then you switch everything around, for instance you put on your PvP glyphs instead of PvE glyphs and you save that too. Same goes for Blessing/Star Chart stuff, you save a third template for Defense as well as one for Offense.

I REALLY need this in my life (And I know quite a lot of people might need this as well). Most people I'm sure they have a PvE set-up for Glyphs and for PvP they have another entirely different. At least in my personal case even in PvP I swap glyphs like crazy, from more offensive ones, to more supportive ones or more Chi reliable ones. I even change them sometimes depending on which classes I'm going against. So seriously I love this idea of having Templates.

Now for the 2nd one:

jsxshadow wrote: »

Also, please DO NOT raise the AH cap. Instead, let CN program some bot to infuse gold into the server for 3.999.900m per gold or even lower to balance the economy. It is true that by raising the cap you simply put Gold at a steady 8m in sales and that is ridiculous. I can occasionally buy loads of gold from AH..so people are still selling their stuff there. Anything above 4m per Gold on any sale is just pure greed and getting to a steady 8m per gold will discourage Free 2 Play gamers even more cause getting gold will be nearly impossible then. Manipulating the market from your side to get a steady gold supply for 4m max is the only correct way to balance the economy for anyone, cashers and F2P alike.

This right here, seriously needs to happen right now. If AH Cap gets increased people will just sell their gold straight up to the max price they can, not the one people wants to buy right now. I mean is a good idea for others to try and buy Gold from the AH but that won't prevent the greed levels from some people to inflate and overprice the gold.
Putting an NPC that somehow sell each Gold for say 4m at a fixed price, that's the one thing that will keep the gold at a steady price without increasing horribly due to some charge/spend rewards and special pack sales. At least in Etherblade server Gold can go from 4-4.5m to at least 6m or even more. So this NPC with a fixed price for Gold really needs to happen. That way f2p players can save up coins and start buying their own Gold for whatever they want/need and even the players that has hundreds of billions of coins can use those and get gold as well.
Plus It would also work as a really good Coin Sink, one that doesn't bleed out the f2p players more than those players that has hundreds of millions of coins easily (Like Homestead does).

And for the 3rd one:

catgirldesu wrote: »

Content

1.They should increase the rewards from the Lycaeum of Cultivation. Right now, we need to use a lot of Feral Soul Stars to try getting good Moods and good Inherit Stats for our pets because they are randomized. Venomancers use multiple pets. I've had some pets for years and I still don't have good Moods and Inherit Stats on some of them because gathering Feral Soul Stars takes too long.

2. I also believe they should update the pet Mood skills. Some of those skills are pretty obsolete nowadays, while other skills have potential to be good but need to be improved a little. If you gather data from multiple Venomancers, you will see they all use the same few Mood skills for their pets, because the rest just aren't very good. We also really need more attack skills with short cool downs because most pets have to auto-attack a lot and that damage is nerfed by the anti-APS buffs bosses have.

3. Heal Pet has an effect that reduces the AoE damage pets take but it only works in PvE. I believe they should make it work for PvP as well because pets die way too fast in mass PvP and Venomancers have two skills that depend on the pet being alive (Venomous Scarab and Natural Synergy).​​

This speaks to me on so many levels... I mean, Feral Soul Stars really needs to be increased, the number you get is really low compared to the number needed for pets to Evolve and to change constantly their inherit stats and their Moods.
Also they should improve the Inherited stats even further, increase the cap for the Inherited stats even more. Maybe add some kind of "X quantity of Feral Soul Stars required for absolutely Max Stats" option. And the Moods should really get revamped and boosted as well, like 90% of those Moods are not really useful for any kind of pet, either for PvE or PvP focus, they just don't work. Also there should be an option to "Hone" the current Mood if you got one you already like. Instead of having to go through the entire random Mood List again hoping you get the correct Mood you had but this time on a higher level, it's just too effing annoying and luck dependant.

And yes, Heal Pet should absolutely reduce AOE damage from Players as well. Not the same 95% reduction as in PvE but something like 60-70%. Just stick to it the same buff that Spellbound Sting plants has and that's it. With it, pets might be able to survive longer even in Mass PvP scenarios like TW and such. And maybe add like a 50-60% chance to Purify the pet as well.

This way Lengendary Pets might be more appealing to acquire for people playing Venomancers. Because right now it's really sad you get to spend +$100 in gold just to get one special pet, put the right skills on it, mood, stats and everything just to get 1-3shotted by AOEs every-single-time in every-single-place.

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In my personal opinion, all of these sounds like some really great ideas that could benefit quite alot of people regardless of their monetary status and the game experience itself.