June 6th pwcn expansion: beast of homestead

weapon762 wrote: »

2 things can sombody please translate the seeker section please and thank you. And as far as crit nerfing goes, seekers yet again get stupidity, and absurdly nerfed, we are the class that actually needs crit damage (not a dex class or for that matter even a full strength class simply because of the r9 weapon requirements alone so it's our first immediate nerf in terms of damage) especially so we don't try to rely on zerk luck (because it's like gambling againts house rules at a casino trying to guarantee a zerk (all seeker procs act like that )

Let's look at it this way I'm a deity seeker with 50% base crit and 192 attack levels (so more often then not I crit so I rely on crits not zerks) and can add a little more with rewinding gesture.

I need full control over the damage to do to a target for it to die just like any deity class.

Most of why I'm deity is because seeker lacks reliable cc and consistent damage I have compensated for this by rebooting my old occult ice formula genie (still relying on genie though ), so killing faster is the deity seekers tool for survival too.

With all the nerfs againts seeker now including the ONE debuff seeker has -def lvs from sac slash qpq combo, which now spirit being introduced makes the debuff quite a bit less powerful.

Spirit is king for now because you can have way more spirit than attack and def lvs, and they count as BOTH, vs sac slash only being able to debuff def lvs and NOT spirit so just introducing spirit to the game effectively messes with the way seeker debuffs.

Now to one of our alternate methods of debuffing, the qpq fortify combo is also nerfed, seeing as now we all have higher PASSIVES and those no matter what cannot be debuffed off *go look at a veno forum it's used to be our one means of consistently higher magic amplify damage it's like 20% , and hell, only most of why seekers keep it around is for its duel utility of being an 3 sec anti stunlock skill
(seekers can get locked for days and with anybody expecting to counter this point, seekers DID get more anti stuns, NOT anti silences like db got, so all you have to do is silence a seeker THEN stunlock him forceing him to faith out his genie and attempt to get away, even more so paralock, this dont work on so doubly so)

and for damage amplification, and oh wait it's also drops our mag def(leaving it at lv 1 so a seeker can gaurteed the debuff @95% and say let's throw a crimson soul powder on for extra damage (now "hfs" us for 30% more damage unless we get it off us throwing it on target like fortify and effectively debuffing said target) we wildly put ourselves at risk (this is looking at you wizards ) just to kill 1 person, vs classes that gain damage the same way by debuffing themselves putting themselves at risk but can aoe, meaning killing Multi targets (if you wanna be a glass cannon take half they army with you policy ) so **** with seeker crit damage is a freaking NoNo.

Now from the opposite part of the spectrum let's talk about def lvs and the josd seeker, I upgraded a set of side gear that gives me 184 def lvs, so I can switch it like a psy switches it's voodoos making up for my def lvs and boosting my def alot allowing me to even tank multiple targets run flags ect ..

(also a way for me to gain even more attack lvs from sac slash and debuff even more, debuffing and tanking in the def gear then switching back to attack gear with more attack lvs added, a more advanced version of josd primary trick of having a def lvs weapon and they r9 )

When I switch to purely def lvs armors and when I need to attack , I switch back to deity gear.

Josd seekers have a 15 sec window of maximized damage (that they can control ) so if you nerf they crit too by allowing them less damage to a target, they do even less than nothing unless wild zerks, (you can't control these) considering the recent upgrades in all other classes they all have guaranteed ways of dealing with a seeker in terms of cc..

(remember seeker cc is swinging a **** ton of times till somthing procs and our cc even if gloriously it does , DOES not chain well because of the skills used to activate said proc is already on cd) just overpowering they defenses.


Now seeker does not have genies skills built just for defending (solid shield ect) we don't have movement boosting anti cc skills like leaps and it's not exaclty like we have any form of focused mind , and our only buff for blocking damage is adrenal rush, this does not mean it's glorious as people often like to point it out to be , because of well idk spirit, yes it makes you more tanky and yes the new passive focuses on making you a better defender (remember seekers you are a Secondary tank go look at your descriptions )(makes a starter seeker feel great we are supposed to end up mediocre (yay!) Support class ?(lol wut) ( and I say **** that ) we were never made to be better defenders more or even equal to bms and barbs (we are fellow HA too with no HA reliable defence skills ) or even at least equal compared to them.

Soooooo full josd seeker can be cc like all-the-time (the charm **** is inconceivable ) and u can still die quite easily to a proper purging +amp +scarab +hf while cc and somebody properly headbutting they keyboard, so let's just say u survive all that, what is your next course of actions ?

Pot -for- ig reasonably a sound decision, (assuming it's off cd ) use a lv 10 buffs for more survaiblity? Nope, cause it does nothing against being relocked again. Use a vac powder? , so that people can just holy path to you? if you attempt running and just wait around your block your brand new and shiny aoe voidstep (and LOL if you know it's all that can save you when u don't have enough sparks, because seeker sucks at making chi.

Sure you can CE genie skill or even chi drain (we all know why u don't generally chi drain people ) so use faith ? U just blew your genie out now what you know you only have 3 sec untargatable transposition with a 1 min cd, and you was saving it just for the moment before faith runs out .

This is now how counter by the silencing the seeker right after the transposition and reappear then relocking because you know the poor fool no longer has faith to save him (remember kids even though you have will surge to block silence effects, you just blew your genie out to save your butt already so will surge is no longer feasible)
This is that point where you as a seeker start thinking of options while trying to fight multi attackers, and this is also a point where all p attack classes , EXCEPT seeker all have an advantage, leaps, cheap no cost aoe stun skills, genie skills that work like sold sheild, invokes hell even sb got those, seeker gets the stand- in- one -spot and pray my armor holds up and sombody misses a stun approach.

So 40 def lvs be damned , anybody can go full josd but what do u do when you are locked lol ?

Seekers seem like fast movers to gtfo or get to a target, but when your consider unfetter and void steps, but our gaurteed stuns require sparks which seeker also sucks at and that's also another means of transportation.

Sins can simply stealth inbetween teleports allowing it to be a seamless transition, they also have double movement skills.
Barbs have the best perma speed in barb form so don't really need to teleport, holy path is generally enough.
Bm double speed skill, (yeah one uses chi big whoop bm can make chi while running with marrow) double leaps (minimal use of chi vs say a spark )
Archer same as sins those not quite as fast of a degree.
Db I mean what else can be said about Db besides having crazy movement power with teleports , 3 ways to speed skill all those classes btw have a way to defend (invisibility, invincibilty or gtfo skills)
So yeah a seeker has to stand there and freaking take it making 40 def lvs meaningless, without a means of resetting your hp charm and , all the above classes can either: simply dodge damages due to stupidly high dex (you cannot crit on a dex class if you don't even him them )
Use some type of an invoke to ignore nearly all damage or the ability to use some type of high mobility skill or a stealth to gtfo this is why every single update screws with seekers on a cellular level.
And no other class gets to complain with such guaranteed class tactics that either come with the weapons of a class class(purify) +class skills(invoke, leaps, shields, invisibility, ect..) to defend with or simply the genie skills of a class(solid shield ect...) and now absolute stupid renerfing ( to the point I built a freaking iron man suit to try to bypass some of my classes weakness the def lvs gear) because as a class we are the only class gennerally forced to spend insane amounts on gear ,cards, ect..to be successful (which compareday to other skills that exist in game is still mediocre, where as any other class with lv 10 skills and the cheapest vit stones can do what they do to hamper any strategy.