Since everyone says it's soo easy to lvl, someone make a leveling guide.

beast21g wrote: »

so the best tip for a new player without having another toon in the game, is to hit lvl 90 and go aoffline for 20 days?

And then we are waitting new people to play?

It's true that lvling is easier now but dont fool yourselves. Takes time, a new player still trying to learn the game the class the skills.
Relax all games needs time.

Except tetris

Tetris is hardcore on higher levels.​​

If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

Anyway, here's my advice:
- Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
- Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
- Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
- Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
- Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
- Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
- Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
- Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
- Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
- Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
- PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
- You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
- Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
- Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
- If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
- Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
- If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
- Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
- Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
- When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
- Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
- Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week but i'd aim for 2.

EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

Do what @nbreaking posted. That's the best advice your going to get if your playing from scratch. Read beginner guides if you are unsure of what anything means.

myhero#0905 said:

nbreaking said:

If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

Anyway, here's my advice:
- Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
- Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
- Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
- Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
- Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
- Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
- Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
- Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
- Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
- Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
- PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
- You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
- Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
- Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
- If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
- Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
- If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
- Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
- Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
- When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
- Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
- Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week but i'd aim for 2.

EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

also people tell me to get qsm stuff since its better than morai, thoughts?

Yes, QSM gear is better than TT due to slaying lvls, set bonuses, warding lvls, etc. Base stats on TT are better though but when put to the test QSM gear does much more damage and gives much more defense than TT (up to TT90)

myhero#0905 said:

nbreaking said:

myhero#0905 said:

nbreaking said:

If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

Anyway, here's my advice:
- Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
- Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
- Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
- Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
- Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
- Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
- Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
- Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
- Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
- Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
- PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
- You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
- Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
- Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
- If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
- Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
- If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
- Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
- Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
- When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
- Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
- Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week but i'd aim for 2.

EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

also people tell me to get qsm stuff since its better than morai, thoughts?

Yes, QSM gear is better than TT due to slaying lvls, set bonuses, warding lvls, etc. Base stats on TT are better though but when put to the test QSM gear does much more damage and gives much more defense than TT (up to TT90)

so i should get qsm not morai?

No, you still get morai, morai is better than QSM. QSM is for 55, 70, 85 and then you get morai at 95.

myhero#0905 said:

nbreaking said:

myhero#0905 said:

nbreaking said:

If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

Anyway, here's my advice:
- Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
- Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
- Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
- Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
- Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
- Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
- Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
- Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
- Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
- Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
- PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
- You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
- Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
- Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
- If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
- Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
- If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
- Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
- Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
- When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
- Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
- Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week but i'd aim for 2.

EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

also people tell me to get qsm stuff since its better than morai, thoughts?

Yes, QSM gear is better than TT due to slaying lvls, set bonuses, warding lvls, etc. Base stats on TT are better though but when put to the test QSM gear does much more damage and gives much more defense than TT (up to TT90)

I'm 83, got inside oht, how do i find valley of the scarred? been flying around not finding it.

Talk to the NPC in the middle, the same NPC that let's you out of OHT also teleports you to the other maps.

Quicksand maze level 85 gear is better than Morai 95. You can continue using QSM 85 in level 100 BHs while you work on your real gear.

nbreaking gave really good advice overall. For the most part you can do quests until level 80, BH and the western map dailies until level 90. 90-95 is the slowest part. You might try Cube of Fate at that point, finishing it gives 1m xp, but it's fairly difficult for a new player. 95+ you get Morai quests and dailies, so it gets easy to level again.

You also should consider running FCC from 80-90. Just find a high level person to help run you through it, the xp is still nice without hyper stones.

@myhero#0905

Somewhat off topic:
Really do not want to sound like a prick, but I think you underestimate the added benefits of paying for the damned warfront pack m8. And overestimate the "fun" you have at levels under 100 just because some people here say that pill babies are bad. Do not listen to the whiners, ever.

It is true that you do end up paying 45E or 50$ for the damned thing, but you get a LOT out of it. It is really, IMHO, the best option you have: It will get you to rb1 lvl 100 AND provide you with much needed gear TT99 (which you can upgrade to g16 later and be done with gearing, if you want to only PVE).
It basically pays itself on the long run. Its a max of 2 days of work if you are lazy, and you at least get to a point where you can do all BH's and other caves which allow faster farming.

Now you should ask yourself how fair it is, really, to play a game (or in general use a service) without contributing a thing. If you are willing to play the game for 1-2 years, pay the damned pill and enjoy your stay here. It will be the less costly thing you do in here anyway (you end up paying a LOT with either time or money).

On Topic:
If this is really your first character, something no one told you until now is that no matter the class you actually want to play, you should start with a great "farmer" class first. Some class which levels fast, is able to solo stuff easier and is needed in many squads. Because after you get to that 100 lvl non reborn, you need to RB once to make sure you can take part in all BH's. And you are broke as ****, so your focus would be to earn coin as fast as possible. To get into merching fast, you do need some starting coin...

On a sad note, I started out as a psy, and after I eventually hit 100 (back then one still needed ~5 months) I reached the conclusion that the best thing for me was to make a assassin, farm as a madman in order to financially support the psy which was not a viable farmer back then. And with the money (a hell lot more than psy ever made) he made from farming (was mostly selling FC's 10 times per day to lazy ppl) I ended up starting a merchant routine AND buying r8 for the psychic, which back then still meant something. These days ... you need at least 20 times more coin to actually have a viable character which is needed in most squads...

In any case, good luck!

@jadasia
No worries hun, you are free to play as you wish. But please try to promote a positive attitude, at least on forums.

The main point I was making is that for HIM/HER, it is a good thing to take the pill. I dislike the label that you instantly place on anyone who would take THE pill. Done right, it is the best leveling. It does however not imply that said person would not also make his/her skills and learn the very few needed for a group.

I also kick people out of squads, but mostly for AFK reasons or faking AFK just 'cuz they dun want to help.

If you want to be fair to others, try to be fair to yourself: if you start a new character NOW, would you use the pill? Why?

And by the way, if ONE player who does not play right messes up your squad, it actually means you are not able to compensate. What I always do, is try to have some people I know in squad, and allow a few spots for unknown. It sometimes IS a pain, but I never satisfy my inability to succeed (since I made the squad) by pointing fingers. OK, UP needs good chars, but besides it, EVERYTHING can be done right even with 2-3 people who do not know a thing.

I think pills are bad for new players because once they get their level 100 and rebirth, they will be awfully confused at what they are supposed to do next. New players don't know the game mechanics and even if they read a guide or get help from people, they may still have a hard time figuring out how they are supposed to progress from then on. Questing regularly doesn't necessarily mean the player will become skilled and knowledge-able in the game, but it certainly gives them a chance to slowly learn their skills and the game mechanics at a pace they have more control over.

Older players who may have never played a certain class can easily figure out what to with it and they can learn how to play it pretty fast. They know how the game works, they will know what they should do next and they might even already know a few things about said class by simply having observed other players.

The pill itself is not bad, but I don't recommend it to newer players, unless they are fast learners.

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magiceffect said:

@catgirldesu I just love how you stated it. I would only emphasize how important it is for the option to be there.

@jadasia I take it you have a problem with idiots. I do too, I get you. But that is beyond the point. A idiot who plays the game for 3 years will still be a idiot. Why label ALL people who want and do level instantly to 1st rb lvl 100 as idiots? Why expect them to be?


All in all, @myhero#0905, I see that no one argued the most important point I did make. Buying the damned pill is worth your time (and it helps the game itself aswell). And based on the reactions, try to make sure that you play your char decently afterwards Because this game is full of self proclaimed PRO people who bash you to death for failing, but silently ignore their own failings on the excuse that it was the lagg that did it. Or blame a squad fail on the single guy who did not do the job they were expecting. If you're gonna play the game at least 100 real time hours, it is worth spending the money, IMHO. On a funny side note, these guys will label someone as idiot, even if what the "idiot" is trying to do is a better way, but no one gets him. Everything that gets out of the range of one's understanding has to be idiotic. Everything needs to be played "right".

I see them how I see them. Unskilled. Under geared. and Clueless.

jadasia said:

magiceffect said:

@catgirldesu I just love how you stated it. I would only emphasize how important it is for the option to be there.

@jadasia I take it you have a problem with idiots. I do too, I get you. But that is beyond the point. A idiot who plays the game for 3 years will still be a idiot. Why label ALL people who want and do level instantly to 1st rb lvl 100 as idiots? Why expect them to be?


All in all, @myhero#0905, I see that no one argued the most important point I did make. Buying the damned pill is worth your time (and it helps the game itself aswell). And based on the reactions, try to make sure that you play your char decently afterwards Because this game is full of self proclaimed PRO people who bash you to death for failing, but silently ignore their own failings on the excuse that it was the lagg that did it. Or blame a squad fail on the single guy who did not do the job they were expecting. If you're gonna play the game at least 100 real time hours, it is worth spending the money, IMHO. On a funny side note, these guys will label someone as idiot, even if what the "idiot" is trying to do is a better way, but no one gets him. Everything that gets out of the range of one's understanding has to be idiotic. Everything needs to be played "right".

I see them how I see them. Unskilled. Under geared. and Clueless.

Some players are super geared and unskilled and clueless.

bloodedone87 said:

jadasia said:

magiceffect said:

@catgirldesu I just love how you stated it. I would only emphasize how important it is for the option to be there.

@jadasia I take it you have a problem with idiots. I do too, I get you. But that is beyond the point. A idiot who plays the game for 3 years will still be a idiot. Why label ALL people who want and do level instantly to 1st rb lvl 100 as idiots? Why expect them to be?


All in all, @myhero#0905, I see that no one argued the most important point I did make. Buying the damned pill is worth your time (and it helps the game itself aswell). And based on the reactions, try to make sure that you play your char decently afterwards Because this game is full of self proclaimed PRO people who bash you to death for failing, but silently ignore their own failings on the excuse that it was the lagg that did it. Or blame a squad fail on the single guy who did not do the job they were expecting. If you're gonna play the game at least 100 real time hours, it is worth spending the money, IMHO. On a funny side note, these guys will label someone as idiot, even if what the "idiot" is trying to do is a better way, but no one gets him. Everything that gets out of the range of one's understanding has to be idiotic. Everything needs to be played "right".

I see them how I see them. Unskilled. Under geared. and Clueless.

Some players are super geared and unskilled and clueless.

And this is why I laugh at those demanding weapon links to join parties. Instagear and instalevel can be cash shopped but that is no substitute for skill and experience with the toon. There is no link to show what skill level is of the toon or those who play them. Only a player's in-game reputation would suffice for proof of competence. They need to start demanding a link for Pickaxes instead. At least we know those who have a pick axe has a higher probability of having a lot of in-game experience unless a pill baby bought it off someone else.