Since everyone says it's soo easy to lvl, someone make a leveling guide.

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  • beast21g
    beast21g Posts: 631 Arc User
    so the best tip for a new player without having another toon in the game, is to hit lvl 90 and go aoffline for 20 days?

    And then we are waitting new people to play?

    It's true that lvling is easier now but dont fool yourselves. Takes time, a new player still trying to learn the game the class the skills.
    Relax all games needs time.

    Except tetris o:)
  • dblazen1
    dblazen1 Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    beast21g wrote: »
    so the best tip for a new player without having another toon in the game, is to hit lvl 90 and go aoffline for 20 days?

    And then we are waitting new people to play?

    It's true that lvling is easier now but dont fool yourselves. Takes time, a new player still trying to learn the game the class the skills.
    Relax all games needs time.

    Except tetris o:)

    Tetris is hardcore on higher levels.​​
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  • nbreaking
    nbreaking Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

    Anyway, here's my advice:
    - Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
    - Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
    - Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
    - Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
    - Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
    - Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
    - Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
    - Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
    - Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
    - Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
    - PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
    - You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
    - Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
    - Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
    - If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
    - Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
    - If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
    - Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
    - Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
    - When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
    - Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
    - Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

    There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week :| but i'd aim for 2.

    EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


    EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all :| Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.



    Mr. Justice
  • jabq
    jabq Posts: 821 Arc User
    thank you @dblazen1 , i was not aware of QSM and dreamweaver gear being available. I will work on that, that should keep them occupied for some time tiger-1.gif​​
  • hypereccentrik
    hypereccentrik Posts: 529 Arc User
    Do what @nbreaking posted. That's the best advice your going to get if your playing from scratch. Read beginner guides if you are unsure of what anything means.
  • myhero#0905
    myhero#0905 Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    Thank you this was amazing :) had a good read. This is what i was looking for nbreaker. Is oht a daily quest btw and are the mobs hard? and what would u suggest for rb1? can I solo pv with just morai gear or do I need a few g16 parts? Barb btw
  • myhero#0905
    myhero#0905 Posts: 89 Arc User
    nbreaking said:

    If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

    Anyway, here's my advice:
    - Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
    - Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
    - Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
    - Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
    - Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
    - Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
    - Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
    - Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
    - Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
    - Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
    - PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
    - You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
    - Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
    - Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
    - If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
    - Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
    - If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
    - Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
    - Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
    - When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
    - Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
    - Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

    There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week :| but i'd aim for 2.

    EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


    EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all :| Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

    also people tell me to get qsm stuff since its better than morai, thoughts?
  • nbreaking
    nbreaking Posts: 607 Arc User
    myhero#0905 said:

    Thank you this was amazing :) had a good read. This is what i was looking for nbreaker. Is oht a daily quest btw and are the mobs hard? and what would u suggest for rb1? can I solo pv with just morai gear or do I need a few g16 parts? Barb btw

    OHT is not a daily quest, just mobs there and they respawn really fast. About being though, hum, shouldn't be, they have like 20k hp but are lvl ? (150) so you deal less dmg and take more from them, but shouldn't be anything crazy hard with QSM 85 or morai at 95.

    About RB1, just do the same stuff, first few lvl are easy cause of 4x exp, once you can run PV do so. When you're able to equip your Morai gear again (cause of the stats it needs) should be smooth sailing. Also, at rb1 and rb2 you get chainquests that give massive exp every 10 lvls, so, that helps too.



    Mr. Justice
  • nbreaking
    nbreaking Posts: 607 Arc User
    myhero#0905 said:

    nbreaking said:

    If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

    Anyway, here's my advice:
    - Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
    - Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
    - Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
    - Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
    - Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
    - Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
    - Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
    - Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
    - Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
    - Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
    - PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
    - You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
    - Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
    - Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
    - If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
    - Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
    - If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
    - Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
    - Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
    - When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
    - Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
    - Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

    There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week :| but i'd aim for 2.

    EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


    EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all :| Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

    also people tell me to get qsm stuff since its better than morai, thoughts?
    Yes, QSM gear is better than TT due to slaying lvls, set bonuses, warding lvls, etc. Base stats on TT are better though but when put to the test QSM gear does much more damage and gives much more defense than TT (up to TT90)



    Mr. Justice
  • myhero#0905
    myhero#0905 Posts: 89 Arc User
    nbreaking said:

    myhero#0905 said:

    nbreaking said:

    If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

    Anyway, here's my advice:
    - Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
    - Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
    - Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
    - Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
    - Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
    - Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
    - Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
    - Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
    - Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
    - Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
    - PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
    - You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
    - Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
    - Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
    - If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
    - Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
    - If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
    - Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
    - Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
    - When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
    - Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
    - Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

    There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week :| but i'd aim for 2.

    EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


    EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all :| Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

    also people tell me to get qsm stuff since its better than morai, thoughts?
    Yes, QSM gear is better than TT due to slaying lvls, set bonuses, warding lvls, etc. Base stats on TT are better though but when put to the test QSM gear does much more damage and gives much more defense than TT (up to TT90)
    so i should get qsm not morai?
  • nbreaking
    nbreaking Posts: 607 Arc User
    myhero#0905 said:

    nbreaking said:

    myhero#0905 said:

    nbreaking said:

    If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

    Anyway, here's my advice:
    - Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
    - Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
    - Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
    - Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
    - Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
    - Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
    - Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
    - Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
    - Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
    - Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
    - PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
    - You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
    - Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
    - Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
    - If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
    - Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
    - If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
    - Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
    - Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
    - When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
    - Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
    - Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

    There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week :| but i'd aim for 2.

    EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


    EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all :| Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

    also people tell me to get qsm stuff since its better than morai, thoughts?
    Yes, QSM gear is better than TT due to slaying lvls, set bonuses, warding lvls, etc. Base stats on TT are better though but when put to the test QSM gear does much more damage and gives much more defense than TT (up to TT90)
    so i should get qsm not morai?
    No, you still get morai, morai is better than QSM. QSM is for 55, 70, 85 and then you get morai at 95.



    Mr. Justice
  • myhero#0905
    myhero#0905 Posts: 89 Arc User
    nbreaking said:

    myhero#0905 said:

    nbreaking said:

    If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

    Anyway, here's my advice:
    - Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
    - Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
    - Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
    - Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
    - Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
    - Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
    - Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
    - Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
    - Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
    - Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
    - PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
    - You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
    - Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
    - Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
    - If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
    - Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
    - If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
    - Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
    - Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
    - When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
    - Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
    - Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

    There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week :| but i'd aim for 2.

    EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


    EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all :| Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

    also people tell me to get qsm stuff since its better than morai, thoughts?
    Yes, QSM gear is better than TT due to slaying lvls, set bonuses, warding lvls, etc. Base stats on TT are better though but when put to the test QSM gear does much more damage and gives much more defense than TT (up to TT90)
    I'm 83, got inside oht, how do i find valley of the scarred? been flying around not finding it.
  • nbreaking
    nbreaking Posts: 607 Arc User
    myhero#0905 said:

    nbreaking said:

    myhero#0905 said:

    nbreaking said:

    If you're a new player why would you want to rush this anyway? You need time to learn your skills, learn how the game works, get your gear, etc... being 100+ is mostly boring to be honest, ofc it's fun if you have good friends to play with.

    Anyway, here's my advice:
    - Do the starting area quests, this takes around 1-2h depending on how you do it, should lvl you to 20+
    - Grab the perfect questmaster stuff (some people save this for rb, I wouldn't). This will lvl you to around 30
    - Grab the lucid chests. This should get you to around 32
    - Do your culti, get your skills, do quests or RoR until lvl 40 (takes a lil bit of time, maybe 1 more hour)
    - Grab your 40 gear (Quests in Angler's Village and City of Misfortune)
    - Do PV (At this point you should have hyper that pwi offered you from the chest and with the 40 gear you can do PV easily on ANY class). People at this lvl usually don't PV for some reason, so, yes, gonna sound like a d.bag but get someone in your faction on this lvl to help you open another run if you can. Even if you can't you'll reach 45 so, meh.
    - Do BH. Easy to get someone to help you with that.
    - Do the Goshiki Chainquest. If you're able to get someone that has the exp buff good, if not, meh, it will lvl you past 50 anyways.
    - Do BH again but don't go past lvl 59.
    - Get help to get QSM gear, usually PvE factions help with this too (takes 10 mins)
    - PV AGAIN, you're at the higher tier of PV, meaning mobs are lower or the same lvl as you, hence it makes it easier.
    - You should be past lvl 60 now. BH again, Culti...
    - Late 60s PV again, in the meanwhile do Quests, quests around the wraith's swamp give good exp.
    - Keep doing culti as soon as you can.
    - If you need to go to sleep or something always use RoR
    - Get QSM Gear again at 70, from now on make squads for PV.
    - If you need money for hypers do Jolly Jones
    - Once you hit 80 things slow down but if you keep doing quests you can unlock dailies in Immolation camp, 1k, snowy village, south barrier village, etc.
    - Do the winter/summer avatar quests, those give a lot
    - When you hit 89, get your culti done, get the last QSM gear at 85 and now here's where people go like "what now?". Simple, something that everyone always, ALWAYS forgets... Do your OHT culti, go to the Valley of the Scarred (maps are open now, just need to get the key) and hyper the mobs at the entrance. You can get a bunch of them, gather them, AoE them, they give really good exp. Make sure you made enough money with Jolly Jones for hypers at this point cause JJ ends at lvl 80.
    - Get to 95 by doing dailies and hypering these mobs, at 95 do Morai, join an order, do the dailies and do the chainquest, get the morai gear which is better than the QSM 85.
    - Keep doing dailies and hypering the OHT mobs and you'll be 100 really fast.

    There ya go, happy? Depending on how much time you have and what faction you're in this could actually take less than 1 week :| but i'd aim for 2.

    EDIT: With this method BTW all you need money for are Hypers, potions and skills, so, money isn't a big deal, great for a newbie. Gear is free, don't go for TT gear, QSM is better and free and usually people don't mind helping since it only takes 1-2 runs to gear someone.


    EDIT 2: No need for exp buff or go offline for 20 days, no need to squad with people that have the exp buff, no need for a dreamchaser pack, no need to charge 50$, no need for anything at all :| Ofc, if you get these things your progress would be boosted by quite a lot but it is NOT needed... This IS a free game, is it Pay to Win? Yes, it is, you can farm and merch but obviously swipping the card is faster. Is it Pay to Play? Absolutely no... People that say they have to charge just to play are dumb cause "mah repair fees" and "muh pots and charms"... so yeah, enjoy the game, play at your own pace and don't rush things, but if you do wanna rush, here's your solution.

    also people tell me to get qsm stuff since its better than morai, thoughts?
    Yes, QSM gear is better than TT due to slaying lvls, set bonuses, warding lvls, etc. Base stats on TT are better though but when put to the test QSM gear does much more damage and gives much more defense than TT (up to TT90)
    I'm 83, got inside oht, how do i find valley of the scarred? been flying around not finding it.
    Talk to the NPC in the middle, the same NPC that let's you out of OHT also teleports you to the other maps.



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  • foley3k
    foley3k Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    -Make a char where you can account stash gear so you can use anything you can.
    -Get a dreamchaser pack. If they still hand them out.(gear, mount, weapons at different levels, plus a really nice +% exp necklace at the higher level.
    -Do the highest XP quests.
    -Do your Culti
    -Do the fish quests (quest line made when psy/sins arrived)
    -Do PV when you can, find openers if you can so you can run multiple times.
    -Do spam Hypers. This, this this this this this this.
    -Do your BHs, all of them. Also check to see if you can do special quests from the item that is given to you from BH. I forget the name, but the guys can be found across from the banker in South Arch. Decent XP, plus can get free pots if you want, or collect and save for free weapons
    -Paperclip and ummm the one where you buy stones. I forget name. It is a daily tho.
    -Do the events if you are able to. Some of them provide high XP for completing/winning. Some give things you can exchange for XP.
    -Do the lucid silver/gold quests and hope to get the XP fruit thing (I saved these for RB)
    -When you can (lvl 95 I think) Do all your morai quests, gives good XP. Do morai dailies, for xp and to gain prestige needed so you can get XP orbs from the NPC.
    -Keep an eye open for freebies(codes). I saved up enough scrolls so get my sin to lvl 65 on RB2 in about 2 minutes. Use them whenever you want tho.
    -Watch World Chat for people doing their culti and have Tabs. You get more xp from that. Dont forget to use your own.
    -Squad up with someone who has the XP buff when you hand in quests. Including your BHs
    -If you want to be really super lazy. Have the char squad up with a high lvl one, set it to follow(your flying while following) and turn on hypers. Put the other toon on bot mode, and do nothing.
    -Also if you can, OHT valley of the scarred (lvl 90?). High level mobs, easy to kill. Bot in there while hypering. Or do what I said above

    There are things I am missing I am sure. These are some of the things people do to get leveled up. Or pony up the real life cash, buy the instant lvl 95 stone. If they even have that anymore?
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  • capnk
    capnk Posts: 486 Arc User
    Quicksand maze level 85 gear is better than Morai 95. You can continue using QSM 85 in level 100 BHs while you work on your real gear.

    nbreaking gave really good advice overall. For the most part you can do quests until level 80, BH and the western map dailies until level 90. 90-95 is the slowest part. You might try Cube of Fate at that point, finishing it gives 1m xp, but it's fairly difficult for a new player. 95+ you get Morai quests and dailies, so it gets easy to level again.

    You also should consider running FCC from 80-90. Just find a high level person to help run you through it, the xp is still nice without hyper stones.
  • forgets2flush
    forgets2flush Posts: 10 Arc User
    I have a main but leveled a duskblade from scratch. I spent about 10 - 15 per week leveling. It took me about a month to level to 80. The quests I focused on were dailies, cultivation, quartermaster, high EXP, Tideborn, and the hidden lv 50 1k. Lv 80 - 100 took about another month doing the same type of quests. I occasionally ran PV and never farmed QSM gear simply because by the time I had a full set, I out leveled its usefulness. For me, it was better to use the best NPC gear available and switched to Morai gear at level 95. Morai gear is decent enough to farm TT99 to get you to T3 gear.

    When you do reach Lv100, I would suggest farming and stocking up EXP pills Endless Universe, BH100, and one of the Morai orders before your rebirth.

    RB1 is a rinse and repeat and took about a month.
    RB2 is a rinse and repeat and took about another month.


  • magiceffect
    magiceffect Posts: 162 Arc User
    @myhero#0905

    Somewhat off topic:
    Really do not want to sound like a prick, but I think you underestimate the added benefits of paying for the damned warfront pack m8. And overestimate the "fun" you have at levels under 100 just because some people here say that pill babies are bad. Do not listen to the whiners, ever.

    It is true that you do end up paying 45E or 50$ for the damned thing, but you get a LOT out of it. It is really, IMHO, the best option you have: It will get you to rb1 lvl 100 AND provide you with much needed gear TT99 (which you can upgrade to g16 later and be done with gearing, if you want to only PVE).
    It basically pays itself on the long run. Its a max of 2 days of work if you are lazy, and you at least get to a point where you can do all BH's and other caves which allow faster farming.

    Now you should ask yourself how fair it is, really, to play a game (or in general use a service) without contributing a thing. If you are willing to play the game for 1-2 years, pay the damned pill and enjoy your stay here. It will be the less costly thing you do in here anyway (you end up paying a LOT with either time or money).

    On Topic:
    If this is really your first character, something no one told you until now is that no matter the class you actually want to play, you should start with a great "farmer" class first. Some class which levels fast, is able to solo stuff easier and is needed in many squads. Because after you get to that 100 lvl non reborn, you need to RB once to make sure you can take part in all BH's. And you are broke as ****, so your focus would be to earn coin as fast as possible. To get into merching fast, you do need some starting coin...

    On a sad note, I started out as a psy, and after I eventually hit 100 (back then one still needed ~5 months) I reached the conclusion that the best thing for me was to make a assassin, farm as a madman in order to financially support the psy which was not a viable farmer back then. And with the money (a hell lot more than psy ever made) he made from farming (was mostly selling FC's 10 times per day to lazy ppl) I ended up starting a merchant routine AND buying r8 for the psychic, which back then still meant something. These days ... you need at least 20 times more coin to actually have a viable character which is needed in most squads...

    In any case, good luck!
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  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    magiceffect said:

    @myhero#0905

    Somewhat off topic:
    Really do not want to sound like a prick, but I think you underestimate the added benefits of paying for the damned warfront pack m8. And overestimate the "fun" you have at levels under 100 just because some people here say that pill babies are bad. Do not listen to the whiners, ever.

    I will never PT with a pill baby who leveled their char but not their skills. When someone in a squad asks why the BM didn't use heaven's flame on a group of mobs or asks a cleric why they never used the blue bubble to heal the squad and their reply is "what skill is that" I know damn well that person is going to doom the squad.

    It's nice to wear the "I'm a level 10x" big boy pants but without the skills and gear and experience with the character to back it up it will be a liability for everyone else. This isn't my opinion. It is from my experience in squads with them. Never again will I waste my time with the instant gratification types who leveled with a pill. This was even true with frost babies. There is a reason why such negative stereotypes are given to them from the rest of us.
  • magiceffect
    magiceffect Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    @jadasia
    No worries hun, you are free to play as you wish. But please try to promote a positive attitude, at least on forums.

    The main point I was making is that for HIM/HER, it is a good thing to take the pill. I dislike the label that you instantly place on anyone who would take THE pill. Done right, it is the best leveling. It does however not imply that said person would not also make his/her skills and learn the very few needed for a group.

    I also kick people out of squads, but mostly for AFK reasons or faking AFK just 'cuz they dun want to help.

    If you want to be fair to others, try to be fair to yourself: if you start a new character NOW, would you use the pill? Why? :wink:

    And by the way, if ONE player who does not play right messes up your squad, it actually means you are not able to compensate. What I always do, is try to have some people I know in squad, and allow a few spots for unknown. It sometimes IS a pain, but I never satisfy my inability to succeed (since I made the squad) by pointing fingers. OK, UP needs good chars, but besides it, EVERYTHING can be done right even with 2-3 people who do not know a thing.
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  • suzukmann
    suzukmann Posts: 86 Arc User
    magiceffect said:

    @jadasia
    No worries hun, you are free to play as you wish. But please try to promote a positive attitude, at least on forums.

    :

    And by the way, if ONE player who does not play right messes up your squad, it actually means you are not able to compensate. What I always do, is try to have some people I know in squad, and allow a few spots for unknown. It sometimes IS a pain, but I never satisfy my inability to succeed (since I made the squad) by pointing fingers. OK, UP needs good chars, but besides it, EVERYTHING can be done right even with 2-3 people who do not know a thing.

    thats the problem of *modern gamers* .. everyone wants everything done in no time at all. cant clear the instance in a minimal timeframe? .. not worth it... cant get some kind of *reward* for everything doing... not worth it...

    i blame western mmos :)

    on the topic of pill babies.... ppl that claim pill babies are bad ... jst compare it to the vanilla lvling with quests for half a decade .... like someone questing with his 4? skills day in day ou does know more about the game.... it jsut doesnt add up...
  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    I think pills are bad for new players because once they get their level 100 and rebirth, they will be awfully confused at what they are supposed to do next. New players don't know the game mechanics and even if they read a guide or get help from people, they may still have a hard time figuring out how they are supposed to progress from then on. Questing regularly doesn't necessarily mean the player will become skilled and knowledge-able in the game, but it certainly gives them a chance to slowly learn their skills and the game mechanics at a pace they have more control over.

    Older players who may have never played a certain class can easily figure out what to with it and they can learn how to play it pretty fast. They know how the game works, they will know what they should do next and they might even already know a few things about said class by simply having observed other players.

    The pill itself is not bad, but I don't recommend it to newer players, unless they are fast learners.

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  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    magiceffect said:

    @jadasia
    No worries hun, you are free to play as you wish. But please try to promote a positive attitude, at least on forums.

    The main point I was making is that for HIM/HER, it is a good thing to take the pill. I dislike the label that you instantly place on anyone who would take THE pill. Done right, it is the best leveling. It does however not imply that said person would not also make his/her skills and learn the very few needed for a group.

    I also kick people out of squads, but mostly for AFK reasons or faking AFK just 'cuz they dun want to help.

    If you want to be fair to others, try to be fair to yourself: if you start a new character NOW, would you use the pill? Why? :wink:

    And by the way, if ONE player who does not play right messes up your squad, it actually means you are not able to compensate. What I always do, is try to have some people I know in squad, and allow a few spots for unknown. It sometimes IS a pain, but I never satisfy my inability to succeed (since I made the squad) by pointing fingers. OK, UP needs good chars, but besides it, EVERYTHING can be done right even with 2-3 people who do not know a thing.

    I once had a barb in Delta rage at me for healing my herc and not him after he died. This was a frost baby. Back then 1 person out of 6 could **** up that entire run. I had a BM who didn't know what HF was. A cleric who didn't have the Blue Bubble or even have heals above level 3. All frost babies.

    Today we have uncharted paradise and yes 1 under skilled and under geared player will absolutely make the run very bad for everyone else. It is a run where skills are as important as gear because each player's skills are designed to compliment other player's skills. Do we even need to discuss this any further? A pill baby without skills and gear for its level is a very poor member for any party. I want nothing to do with people who are unwilling to put forth effort into their toons. They just want instant gratification.

    That label and other stereotypes we attribute to pill and frost babies is something they earned because of their incompetence as a player. If it wasn't an issue it wouldn't be an issue.
  • suzukmann
    suzukmann Posts: 86 Arc User
    jadasia said:

    magiceffect said:

    @jadasia
    No worries hun, you are free to play as you wish. But please try to promote a positive attitude, at least on forums.

    The main point I was making is that for HIM/HER, it is a good thing to take the pill. I dislike the label that you instantly place on anyone who would take THE pill. Done right, it is the best leveling. It does however not imply that said person would not also make his/her skills and learn the very few needed for a group.

    I also kick people out of squads, but mostly for AFK reasons or faking AFK just 'cuz they dun want to help.

    If you want to be fair to others, try to be fair to yourself: if you start a new character NOW, would you use the pill? Why? :wink:

    And by the way, if ONE player who does not play right messes up your squad, it actually means you are not able to compensate. What I always do, is try to have some people I know in squad, and allow a few spots for unknown. It sometimes IS a pain, but I never satisfy my inability to succeed (since I made the squad) by pointing fingers. OK, UP needs good chars, but besides it, EVERYTHING can be done right even with 2-3 people who do not know a thing.

    I once had a barb in Delta rage at me for healing my herc and not him after he died. This was a frost baby. Back then 1 person out of 6 could **** up that entire run. I had a BM who didn't know what HF was. A cleric who didn't have the Blue Bubble or even have heals above level 3. All frost babies.

    Today we have uncharted paradise and yes 1 under skilled and under geared player will absolutely make the run very bad for everyone else. It is a run where skills are as important as gear because each player's skills are designed to compliment other player's skills. Do we even need to discuss this any further? A pill baby without skills and gear for its level is a very poor member for any party. I want nothing to do with people who are unwilling to put forth effort into their toons. They just want instant gratification.

    That label and other stereotypes we attribute to pill and frost babies is something they earned because of their incompetence as a player. If it wasn't an issue it wouldn't be an issue.
    get real...

    like ANY UP squad would ever take a *fresh* pill abby w/o skills and equips ....
  • magiceffect
    magiceffect Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    @catgirldesu I just love how you stated it. I would only emphasize how important it is for the option to be there.

    @jadasia I take it you have a problem with idiots. I do too, I get you. But that is beyond the point. A idiot who plays the game for 3 years will still be a idiot. Why label ALL people who want and do level instantly to 1st rb lvl 100 as idiots? Why expect them to be?


    All in all, @myhero#0905, I see that no one argued the most important point I did make. Buying the damned pill is worth your time (and it helps the game itself aswell). And based on the reactions, try to make sure that you play your char decently afterwards :smile: Because this game is full of self proclaimed PRO people who bash you to death for failing, but silently ignore their own failings on the excuse that it was the lagg that did it. Or blame a squad fail on the single guy who did not do the job they were expecting. If you're gonna play the game at least 100 real time hours, it is worth spending the money, IMHO. On a funny side note, these guys will label someone as idiot, even if what the "idiot" is trying to do is a better way, but no one gets him. Everything that gets out of the range of one's understanding has to be idiotic. Everything needs to be played "right".
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  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    magiceffect said:

    @catgirldesu I just love how you stated it. I would only emphasize how important it is for the option to be there.

    @jadasia I take it you have a problem with idiots. I do too, I get you. But that is beyond the point. A idiot who plays the game for 3 years will still be a idiot. Why label ALL people who want and do level instantly to 1st rb lvl 100 as idiots? Why expect them to be?


    All in all, @myhero#0905, I see that no one argued the most important point I did make. Buying the damned pill is worth your time (and it helps the game itself aswell). And based on the reactions, try to make sure that you play your char decently afterwards :smile: Because this game is full of self proclaimed PRO people who bash you to death for failing, but silently ignore their own failings on the excuse that it was the lagg that did it. Or blame a squad fail on the single guy who did not do the job they were expecting. If you're gonna play the game at least 100 real time hours, it is worth spending the money, IMHO. On a funny side note, these guys will label someone as idiot, even if what the "idiot" is trying to do is a better way, but no one gets him. Everything that gets out of the range of one's understanding has to be idiotic. Everything needs to be played "right".

    I see them how I see them. Unskilled. Under geared. and Clueless.
  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User


    "get real...

    like ANY UP squad would ever take a *fresh* pill baby w/o skills and equips ...."

    My point exactly. They wouldn't. Now explain why they wouldn't... I tried to.
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    jadasia said:

    magiceffect said:

    @catgirldesu I just love how you stated it. I would only emphasize how important it is for the option to be there.

    @jadasia I take it you have a problem with idiots. I do too, I get you. But that is beyond the point. A idiot who plays the game for 3 years will still be a idiot. Why label ALL people who want and do level instantly to 1st rb lvl 100 as idiots? Why expect them to be?


    All in all, @myhero#0905, I see that no one argued the most important point I did make. Buying the damned pill is worth your time (and it helps the game itself aswell). And based on the reactions, try to make sure that you play your char decently afterwards :smile: Because this game is full of self proclaimed PRO people who bash you to death for failing, but silently ignore their own failings on the excuse that it was the lagg that did it. Or blame a squad fail on the single guy who did not do the job they were expecting. If you're gonna play the game at least 100 real time hours, it is worth spending the money, IMHO. On a funny side note, these guys will label someone as idiot, even if what the "idiot" is trying to do is a better way, but no one gets him. Everything that gets out of the range of one's understanding has to be idiotic. Everything needs to be played "right".

    I see them how I see them. Unskilled. Under geared. and Clueless.
    Some players are super geared and unskilled and clueless.
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  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    bloodedone87 said:

    jadasia said:

    magiceffect said:

    @catgirldesu I just love how you stated it. I would only emphasize how important it is for the option to be there.

    @jadasia I take it you have a problem with idiots. I do too, I get you. But that is beyond the point. A idiot who plays the game for 3 years will still be a idiot. Why label ALL people who want and do level instantly to 1st rb lvl 100 as idiots? Why expect them to be?


    All in all, @myhero#0905, I see that no one argued the most important point I did make. Buying the damned pill is worth your time (and it helps the game itself aswell). And based on the reactions, try to make sure that you play your char decently afterwards :smile: Because this game is full of self proclaimed PRO people who bash you to death for failing, but silently ignore their own failings on the excuse that it was the lagg that did it. Or blame a squad fail on the single guy who did not do the job they were expecting. If you're gonna play the game at least 100 real time hours, it is worth spending the money, IMHO. On a funny side note, these guys will label someone as idiot, even if what the "idiot" is trying to do is a better way, but no one gets him. Everything that gets out of the range of one's understanding has to be idiotic. Everything needs to be played "right".

    I see them how I see them. Unskilled. Under geared. and Clueless.
    Some players are super geared and unskilled and clueless.
    And this is why I laugh at those demanding weapon links to join parties. Instagear and instalevel can be cash shopped but that is no substitute for skill and experience with the toon. There is no link to show what skill level is of the toon or those who play them. Only a player's in-game reputation would suffice for proof of competence. They need to start demanding a link for Pickaxes instead. At least we know those who have a pick axe has a higher probability of having a lot of in-game experience unless a pill baby bought it off someone else.

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