Since everyone says it's soo easy to lvl, someone make a leveling guide.

jadasia

craz1nf said:

bloodedone87 said:

Some players are super geared and unskilled and clueless.

Exactaly, like those R9RR+10 bm's that run in and hf while everyone else is starting the debuff/spark stage, so hf is almost gone before people start attacking.
and R9RR+10 seekers that don't debuff, ever.
and R9RR veno's that don't amp.
the list goes on and on.

its not about how fast you get to level 100 and how fast you get your gear, most of the pillbabys running around in FSP/etc with garbage gear are alts of OP people that want to afk in instances while they play on a main screen. hoping not to get kicked from squad(s). i know people that do it constantly, same people that join guilds & pretend to be noobs/want free gear to help fund their next OP/R9RR char.

anyway, there's good players & dumb players, how fast they level/gear is not the issue, its the process of reading skill descriptions & trying to see how they work. nobody really runs lowlevel stuff these days anyway. theres always an OP person in a squad that steamrolls it while people try to keep up. so they are not really learning anything anyway by "leveling slow"

Those who actually put effort into their toon to level, gear, and skill with in-game play are those who offer the best support for squads. Instalevel and instagear is no substitute for experience and skill. That is where the instalevel theory fails. Getting to 100 with a pill leaves out all the experience of getting the toon to 100 without it. To put it another way would you or anyone be a passenger in a plane owned by some rich person living on an island who bought it and bought a pilot's captain suit yet has no experience in flying the damn plane? Cash shopping the instalevel and gear is meaningless without the skill and experience. It can lead entire parties into a plane wreck. Been there and done that. The stupidity of those people, or I should say the sheer ignorance, is breath taking to say the least. It is why pill babies and frost babies earned their coveted stereotype for being stupid and lazy and crazy.

This is why instalevel and even instagear fails. being 105 and r9rrr is nothing without skill and experience to back it up.

bloodedone87

jadasia said:

bloodedone87 said:

jadasia said:

magiceffect said:

@catgirldesu I just love how you stated it. I would only emphasize how important it is for the option to be there.

@jadasia I take it you have a problem with idiots. I do too, I get you. But that is beyond the point. A idiot who plays the game for 3 years will still be a idiot. Why label ALL people who want and do level instantly to 1st rb lvl 100 as idiots? Why expect them to be?


All in all, @myhero#0905, I see that no one argued the most important point I did make. Buying the damned pill is worth your time (and it helps the game itself aswell). And based on the reactions, try to make sure that you play your char decently afterwards Because this game is full of self proclaimed PRO people who bash you to death for failing, but silently ignore their own failings on the excuse that it was the lagg that did it. Or blame a squad fail on the single guy who did not do the job they were expecting. If you're gonna play the game at least 100 real time hours, it is worth spending the money, IMHO. On a funny side note, these guys will label someone as idiot, even if what the "idiot" is trying to do is a better way, but no one gets him. Everything that gets out of the range of one's understanding has to be idiotic. Everything needs to be played "right".

I see them how I see them. Unskilled. Under geared. and Clueless.

Some players are super geared and unskilled and clueless.

And this is why I laugh at those demanding weapon links to join parties. Instagear and instalevel can be cash shopped but that is no substitute for skill and experience with the toon. There is no link to show what skill level is of the toon or those who play them. Only a player's in-game reputation would suffice for proof of competence. They need to start demanding a link for Pickaxes instead. At least we know those who have a pick axe has a higher probability of having a lot of in-game experience unless a pill baby bought it off someone else.

Oh sure demanding a link for pickaxes. Great idea. Oh wait... I play a stormbringer. I do not have a pickaxe.

jadasia

bloodedone87 said:

jadasia said:

bloodedone87 said:

jadasia said:

magiceffect said:

@catgirldesu I just love how you stated it. I would only emphasize how important it is for the option to be there.

@jadasia I take it you have a problem with idiots. I do too, I get you. But that is beyond the point. A idiot who plays the game for 3 years will still be a idiot. Why label ALL people who want and do level instantly to 1st rb lvl 100 as idiots? Why expect them to be?


All in all, @myhero#0905, I see that no one argued the most important point I did make. Buying the damned pill is worth your time (and it helps the game itself aswell). And based on the reactions, try to make sure that you play your char decently afterwards Because this game is full of self proclaimed PRO people who bash you to death for failing, but silently ignore their own failings on the excuse that it was the lagg that did it. Or blame a squad fail on the single guy who did not do the job they were expecting. If you're gonna play the game at least 100 real time hours, it is worth spending the money, IMHO. On a funny side note, these guys will label someone as idiot, even if what the "idiot" is trying to do is a better way, but no one gets him. Everything that gets out of the range of one's understanding has to be idiotic. Everything needs to be played "right".

I see them how I see them. Unskilled. Under geared. and Clueless.

Some players are super geared and unskilled and clueless.

And this is why I laugh at those demanding weapon links to join parties. Instagear and instalevel can be cash shopped but that is no substitute for skill and experience with the toon. There is no link to show what skill level is of the toon or those who play them. Only a player's in-game reputation would suffice for proof of competence. They need to start demanding a link for Pickaxes instead. At least we know those who have a pick axe has a higher probability of having a lot of in-game experience unless a pill baby bought it off someone else.

Oh sure demanding a link for pickaxes. Great idea. Oh wait... I play a stormbringer. I do not have a pickaxe.

Now you're getting it. Noob.

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magiceffect

@teabagg yes amazing. But rest assured, @jadasia will never use the pill, she is morally against using it. Because pill babies r bad!

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jadasia

magiceffect said:

@teabagg yes amazing. But rest assured, @jadasia will never use the pill, she is morally against using it. Because pill babies r bad!

Actually I have 3 pill babies. They are level 10x but no gear. No skills. And are completely worthless in any type of game play other than opening PV or being a catshop. Every one of those chars and accounts were created in early 2010. One has been red named since 2012. Needless to say I know what pill babies are how worthless they are as a day to day char in an instance party.

I agree with Desdi. Perhaps for an older player that has had an account for years and knows the characters and can level its skills and culti with a main and is familiar enough with the class it would be fine so how do we determine who the older experienced players from the lesser experienced ones? with the link to the pick axe. If they have one of those chances are more likely than not that player has been around for a while and may have better judgement than those who haven't.

But a new player or one who doesn't have much experience with the game, classes, and skills instaleveling and instagearing them with a pill and expecting them to benefit any party in an instance or PvP is a pipe dream. Unskilled and inexperienced and a huge liability for the performance from everyone in a squad. This has been my experience.
I posted about it. Frost babies who never had much to do with anything else on the wide open map and pill babies who have even less than that are worthless.

My alts will never be more than instance openers or level 10x catshops.

bloodedone87

People talk here about new players?
And I am sitting here like: What new players? New players are in minority.
Majority of pillbabies are alts of old players.

darky26

I sold my pickaxe to a NPC.
#foreveralone

magiceffect

@bloodedone87 +1

Sometimes you need that veno or bm which ain't coming. And you tell ur friend, dude log your trash alt, leave the main. And he is like ... dude I got no idea whut to use besides dg/amp/purge. And ur like ... man...chill its ALL we actually need. We got the firepower, we just need a bit of edge. And its fun bruh, u finally play a char that can actually die in PVE And to my surprise, people playing with chars in trash gears actually god damned FOCUS and use their important skills IN TIME.

On a side note, @jadasia seems to take the PVE "challenge" very seriously .

jadasia

magiceffect said:

@bloodedone87 +1

Sometimes you need that veno or bm which ain't coming. And you tell ur friend, dude log your trash alt, leave the main. And he is like ... dude I got no idea whut to use besides dg/amp/purge. And ur like ... man...chill its ALL we actually need. We got the firepower, we just need a bit of edge. And its fun bruh, u finally play a char that can actually die in PVE And to my surprise, people playing with chars in trash gears actually god damned FOCUS and use their important skills IN TIME.

On a side note, @jadasia seems to take the PVE "challenge" very seriously .

I've never really cared for PvP. That's why.