Did you attend NW? Pros and Cons vs xNW Please

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  • baseaddress
    baseaddress Posts: 202 Arc User
    capnk said:

    >>What attendance will there be tonight? bets on! - per server i say 300-400 max

    Was about 500 on Twilight Temple last night, and that's with some people not attending because of territory war afterwards.

    Sure, less TW players, more alts. Deal with it.
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    Can you all stop please with these alts thing? You are talking like half of the people going to NW are having 10 alts with them each. Thats not the case.
    Have you ever consider how annoying and stresfull is to have an army of alts with you in NW?
    I had 1 alt with me last weak . Friday last weak was ok. I made 150 tokens with alt but sunday I made 0 with alt. I said to myself that bad things can happen so I took the alt again this Friday. I kicked the alt out of NW after 30 minutes and not because the alt was not making points but because I was doing a routine: move the main into the batle. move the alt in to the battle, move the main into the battle, move the alt into the battle and so on. So after 30 minutes I could not take it anymore and kept only the main in NW.
    Imagine now how it would be to have 10 alts and to have to move each alt to the battlefield. By the time the 10th one is there the battle is over.
    There may be some crazy people that are going with alts but not on a larger scale.
    And also everytime I am in NW on the battle field and I check map I see dots moving , I see blue circles fighting red circles. I dont see that much of alts that others are pretending to see.
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  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    Well, you'd be surprised at how well some people can multi client. Sometimes it's not very noticeable that they are actually indeed multi clienting. It's easy in the current NW because a lot of people have average gear (or are alts) so they can set their alts on macros or whatever. It's really not that hard.

    I'm not good at multi clienting myself, but I know a few people that actually brought two characters in xNW, so current NW must be really easy for them to bring more than two.    ​​

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  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    catgirldesu said:

    Well, you'd be surprised at how well some people can multi client. Sometimes it's not very noticeable that they are actually indeed multi clienting. It's easy in the current NW because a lot of people have average gear (or are alts) so they can set their alts on macros or whatever. It's really not that hard.



    I'm not good at multi clienting myself, but I know a few people that actually brought two characters in xNW, so current NW must be really easy for them to bring more than two.    ​​

    Why is it more easy to pull alts in NW rather than xNW!?
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  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    monoftalm wrote: »
    Why is it more easy to pull alts in NW rather than xNW!?

    You will find less people and more empty maps so alts can easily finish maps on their own while other alts are moving into other maps. In xNW you will most likely find people (with decent to endgame gear) that will just kill your alt. If the alts happen to have good gear, you can just set up an attack macro on other alts and low geared people while you switch screens to check on another alt and so on.​​

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  • magiceffect
    magiceffect Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    I had a moderate experience on Da last Sunday. Around 500 ppl in total, relatively evenly spread. Altho' I do not remember exact numbers, everyone had over 100 ppl in nation.

    With a small map you would expect that a average of 10 teams of 10 people is good enough to have interesting fights at the borders no? No! Most opposition I met was mostly afk, some were even using their alts on follow. Literally doing nothing, not even auto attking or self buffing in a macro.

    I did find myself in occasional fights vs more than 10 ppl, but almost never organized, excepting for some very few interesting cases. I am partly to blame here, since I went in solo and decided to go vs 2nd tier oponents, since I would literally not stand one chance vs the few organized OP squads. Buy hey, all good, I did get some fun (maybe a total of 20 mins out of 2 hours) killing almost equally geared ppl in a 1-1, or digging up a crystal while 6-10 weak and mindless (uncoordinated attks) ppl were trying to kill me. Some died to white voodoo aoe's :smiley: .

    Overall, I HATE this version of the NW. Yes I am +12 JOSD, yes I do not really need the tokens. I attend NW once in a blue moon to try and have some fun. I chose not to be in a team, because I am sick of bad coordination or ..greed.

    All of that being said, I sorely miss the THRILL I felt when I knew I would meet totally new people, the thrill I rarely felt when I met a truly end game bm who would not die to 1-2 people like me. The challenge he/she presented us would force us cooperate. I feel like that scale of the map and unknown threat fostered a better cooperation in all nations. It was that feeling which made me start to play NW a bit more.

    Well, except at least for last few weeks in Da where a prick I will not name decided to ruin everyone's fun just because why not. He would become commander on a number of alts and not even show up. Then he would brag from his main, on world chat during xNW, and masochistically urge us to throw the hate onto him :smile: I fail to see how a person who throws so much money into the game does not have enough to go to therapy.

    With all its donwsides, xNW was way more fun than this old version.
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  • darkonome
    darkonome Posts: 253 Arc User
    catgirldesu said:

    Well, you'd be surprised at how well some people can multi client. Sometimes it's not very noticeable that they are actually indeed multi clienting. It's easy in the current NW because a lot of people have average gear (or are alts) so they can set their alts on macros or whatever. It's really not that hard.



    I'm not good at multi clienting myself, but I know a few people that actually brought two characters in xNW, so current NW must be really easy for them to bring more than two.    ​​

    I know someone that is ridiculously good at multi clienting, her DB and Cleric both almost endgame in the same battle, it's harder than fighting two different people. Running flag and healing herself same time :'( most likely has two monitors with render no focus on both clients.
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  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    magiceffect said:

    I had a moderate experience on Da last Sunday. Around 500 ppl in total, relatively evenly spread. Altho' I do not remember exact numbers, everyone had over 100 ppl in nation.

    With a small map you would expect that a average of 10 teams of 10 people is good enough to have interesting fights at the borders no? No! Most opposition I met was mostly afk, some were even using their alts on follow. Literally doing nothing, not even auto attking or self buffing in a macro.

    I did find myself in occasional fights vs more than 10 ppl, but almost never organized, excepting for some very few interesting cases. I am partly to blame here, since I went in solo and decided to go vs 2nd tier oponents, since I would literally not stand one chance vs the few organized OP squads. Buy hey, all good, I did get some fun (maybe a total of 20 mins out of 2 hours) killing almost equally geared ppl in a 1-1, or digging up a crystal while 6-10 weak and mindless (uncoordinated attks) ppl were trying to kill me. Some died to white voodoo aoe's :smiley: .

    Overall, I HATE this version of the NW. Yes I am +12 JOSD, yes I do not really need the tokens. I attend NW once in a blue moon to try and have some fun. I chose not to be in a team, because I am sick of bad coordination or ..greed.

    All of that being said, I sorely miss the THRILL I felt when I knew I would meet totally new people, the thrill I rarely felt when I met a truly end game bm who would not die to 1-2 people like me. The challenge he/she presented us would force us cooperate. I feel like that scale of the map and unknown threat fostered a better cooperation in all nations. It was that feeling which made me start to play NW a bit more.

    Well, except at least for last few weeks in Da where a prick I will not name decided to ruin everyone's fun just because why not. He would become commander on a number of alts and not even show up. Then he would brag from his main, on world chat during xNW, and masochistically urge us to throw the hate onto him :smile: I fail to see how a person who throws so much money into the game does not have enough to go to therapy.

    With all its donwsides, xNW was way more fun than this old version.

    I second this, its the thrill you get when you do not really know who you fight against and how good they are and what to expect.

    BRING BACK XNW! :neutral:
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  • cyberomega45
    cyberomega45 Posts: 175 Arc User
    I do like the idea of Friday night server NW and Sunday xserver NW. When the Friday night server NW time slot was back, I saw a lot of my friends who could not do the Sunday morning (PDT) xserver, were participating in the Friday night one. Also, if they do decide to in the future bring back xserver NW, get rid of the commander, we dont need them. Most people in the Etherblade server didnt listen to the commander and if we didnt do well he blamed us and if we did well he took credit.
  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    IMO, anyone that is more East from Central USA time, and this accounts whole of East coast, Europe, Most of Asia = can only sleep over Sunday NW.
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  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    Did NW last night, made 1 squad that worked together and beside 1, and I mean only 1 squad on the other side, there was NO CHALLENGE AT ALL.

    Bring back xNW!
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  • sasquatch87
    sasquatch87 Posts: 51 Arc User
    monoftalm said:

    Did NW last night, made 1 squad that worked together and beside 1, and I mean only 1 squad on the other side, there was NO CHALLENGE AT ALL.

    Bring back xNW!

    #MakeNationWarsGreatAgain!

  • keihan007#7641
    keihan007#7641 Posts: 1,190 Arc User
    monoftalm said:

    Did NW last night, made 1 squad that worked together and beside 1, and I mean only 1 squad on the other side, there was NO CHALLENGE AT ALL.

    Bring back xNW!

    What nation were you in? The fun battles were between Dark and Flame. We were bashing heads for full 2 hours with another squad.
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  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    I was in dark, if there wasnt eagles squad there would be no fun at all!
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  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    :/ im disappointed GMs didnt give ther 5 cents here
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  • mulier
    mulier Posts: 305 Arc User
    monoftalm said:

    :/ im disappointed GMs didnt give ther 5 cents here

    there is no GMs

  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    When you got 20 people and half of them being r9r3 players( not me. I am just G16) that can barely kill 2 enemies and those 2 enemies manages somehow to deliver 1 flag or destroy 2 towers you know something is wrong.
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  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    Its clear now that with low attendance old XNW made game more fun, also, prices of raps and canines are down.
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  • cyberomega45
    cyberomega45 Posts: 175 Arc User
    monoftalm said:

    Its clear now that with low attendance old XNW made game more fun, also, prices of raps and canines are down.

    Reason raps and cannies are down is because with 2 NWs the catshops think there are more tokens and with the G17 weapon, more people are focused on that and less than the G16. Give it a couple of months for prices to go up.
  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    Point where you get 1 shot and rolled in xNW and Not in NW is totally flood, in current state NW - you get rolled by 1 or 2 nations just the same + the number of OP ppl now is more unequally distributed than for xNW.


    I got into Side of VisaSquads (if you know what i mean), thats pretty much 1 - 2 guilds per each server, only thing I could do is just afk or gank the other under-geared people they would be up against, as I am end gear myself - there was 0 challenge.

    it ONLY makes sense to bring back CROSS SERVER NW so you would have a balance of really strong investors distributed by squads across the event.

    #BringBackXNW
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  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    please continue here, http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/pwi#/discussion/1204708/bring-back-most-fun-event-since-2008-xnw

    I will reply here only if someone posts anything in the future!

    Thanks!
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  • perrion
    perrion Posts: 165 Arc User
    cyberomega45 said:


    Reason raps and cannies are down is because with 2 NWs the catshops think there are more tokens and with the G17 weapon, more people are focused on that and less than the G16. Give it a couple of months for prices to go up.

    Obviously not a merchant, since you have no idea what you are talking about.

    Prices are down because there is less demand. Demand is down because those who need tokens can get them easier. Given time, prices will continue to drop, until tokens once again hit NPC value.

  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    perrion said:

    cyberomega45 said:


    Reason raps and cannies are down is because with 2 NWs the catshops think there are more tokens and with the G17 weapon, more people are focused on that and less than the G16. Give it a couple of months for prices to go up.

    Obviously not a merchant, since you have no idea what you are talking about.

    Prices are down because there is less demand. Demand is down because those who need tokens can get them easier. Given time, prices will continue to drop, until tokens once again hit NPC value.

    Until G17 mats end up in NW forges ROTFL. Just fun thinking about that
  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    I know quite a few people that slowed the pace of gearing up and investing PWI because xNW was really only fun left thing to do - given the TWs, and how you need to be OP lucky to hit a competitive war once in 4 months, which goes for xTW too - CROSS SERVER NW is Something we need back!

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  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    its so late here now im waiting for xNW - anyone else in same position?
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  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    I went to NW for the first time since the change and... yeah, it's mostly empty. I had a couple of okay fights and a fun one, but the rest were pretty much empty and boring.​​

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  • monoftalm
    monoftalm Posts: 118 Arc User
    my squad found out that our squad was enough to make a nation 2nd place, overall there are 1-3 squads per each nation that are fun to fight, imo xNW beats this much.
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  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    Went to normal nw first time in over a month less people than when it was first changes not to mention even elss active ppl now gg pwi
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  • hypereccentrik
    hypereccentrik Posts: 529 Arc User
    Bring back x nw on Sundays at least. Regular NW has its fun, as in its a great way to be competitive with people on you own server without being in a TW faction. But X NW defenitly is more fulfilling and the thrill of not knowing who you get to fight, as well as being able to go with your whole faction makes x nw a valuable event I don't want to keep missing out on.
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