Nation Wars: The Information

It is really good idea to mixing Cross Over servers members...yea it can balance NW

Yea. instead of server vs server, they should have created a system where all servers get mashed together. Just to spread out the numbers more. This is just stupid, and the same every week. Dawnglory wins, and the nations across from them gets 2nd place. The other 2 just get facerolled and baselocked. When servers would get mixed together, you'll have something different every week, play together with new players, and actually have equality in numbers. I mean look at NW today:

More than 200 difference between the highest and the lowest numbers, and look who has the most points, the server with the highest number, in other words: Dawnglory.
This is absolutely not meant to bash on their server, I mean they cannot help it they just have more players. This is a flaw of the PWI system that has not been thought over very well.
Also, I believe putting a number lock on it will just bring unfairness to people who want to enter NW. People with the faster net always will get in, whereas the "slowpokes" among us will become unlucky and wont be able to enter. Or those who just cant make the time mark and want to enter a bit later. It would just create another problem where people won't be able to NW at all, and lose interest in game.​​

You can't complain about gear advantage imo that has nothing to do with nation wars. they need to do something to balance the teams tho i agree.

wait....
People wanted cross server events because they wanted to fight other servers. Now they are getting their asses handed to them in a cross server event, they want it all randomized so it wont be server vs server?

PWE needs to make another server called "Safe Space" where people can go and play and not have their feellings hurt.

i read the last 3 pages and i can only laugh at the sore loosers.
today i saw a bunch of people from ET and TI afk in their base.
so why should they benefit while doing nothing?
that is the most annoying thing! people putting their alts in NW to take away tokens from other people who fight for real.
And as you can see the difference between DA and ET is 160 people, but they still get bashed and nearly come in last.
So it is not only about DA having more people, it is also because DA has better geared people and probably less alts in there.
I dont want to talk about skill or not, but with better gear and more people DA puts more effort into this and should be rewarded more.
So in the end who complains about numbers should look at what can be done with less numbers like TI did with the least number they had nearly the same amount of points ET had, the second most numbers nation.

Read more of this thread... the only fair treatment for all would be to mix all the servers' players, similar to the older NW.

There's a lot of high and mighty feeling DG players as well as those that feel others' time zone pain.
Granted, I myself have only been to 2 NWs since its release due to the fact that I'm working.

Reading back, not only is time an issue for other servers, but the NW server is located in EU which gives them a lower ping than others while others get a higher rate of ping. Although I'm on the east coast, playing in a west coast server which ping rages from 90-120.

I had an alt on Morai (now DG) server and had a ping of roughly 150 ish. So luckily ping is not a huge complaint but could be a factor for some.

As to what den28nl said, this was designed for China and its same time zone, while PWI has a much larger time zone change.

Back to my first statement, similar to Sunset Valley, the only way to change or to make it fair is to be able to mingle with other players from another server in a single nation. Instead of being segregated. ​​

tiageros said:

So, this week in Twilight Temple, someone who isn't Vindi won the Commander title. Being the sore losers that they are, the of course went completely against everything that the commander was attempting to do to push against the EU server. If that wasn't bad enough, after you lost when even trying to buy votes from people, you then have the audacity to rip on the winner in WC like some kind of 8-year-old bully that just lost.

To make matters even worse, our new non-Vindi commander, actually went to the other servers to talk to their commanders and coordinate a triple attack against EU. (You know, the very thing you guys have been talking about doing and no one has yet?) Sadly, Vidicate decided to go against our ally Frost, and screwed that up so that Frost had to focus on fighting us instead of pushing on EU.

So a big thanks to Vindi for once again **** the rest of the server out of some fun. You guys really need to pull your heads out of your ****.
I mean seriously, I've never seen such babies for losing. You keep trash-talking the winner just because they had more friends voting than you did.
Vidicate wins the award for being the biggest god dam **** babies on the server.

I can't speak for this weekend's NWs, but Hoorah players have a history of ignoring the commander and doing whatever they want. So... enjoy your karma?

@ayejay101 : I personnnaly said in that same thread that the server was hosted in East coast and I have a bad ping there as a EU player.
I would prefer different time zone with a server located in EU... Can't have everything... but people look at what disadvantages them and not at what could be bad for other people...
As if Dawnglory had only advantages in this situation.

elohim77 said:

roflmao i had almost 5 times the credits you had

which also gives an idea about the kind of battles i have been into, and the kind of battles NA players go look for

roflmao how does one players screenshot equal to an entire server?

Should i consider the entire dawnglory server population stupid cause you are one player that fails at logic?


I mean you apparently failed to realise NW is hosted on the old RT server which almost everyone knows by now. You failed to realise that are many EU players that still play on US servers so not all have ping advantage. You fail to realise luck plays a factor in NW in terms of who ends up fighting who and i have seen my server losing outnumbered as much as i have seen dawnglory lose when they outnumber, even lose 30 vs. 10 of us. And no it wasnt win by time out or cause the players were undergeared.


Tho i dont disagree etherblades performance is disappointing for the amount of players they have. I expected they would do better than this but how is "527" almost as much as "685" lol

Damn you make all the EU people look stupid.

elohim77 said:

sylenthunder wrote: »

Not a bad end result. Thank you Razire for being a good commander. Your direction was a large part of us coming in second.

roflmao i had almost 5 times the credits you had

which also gives an idea about the kind of battles i have been into, and the kind of battles NA players go look for



Et with almost the same numbers of Da, got baselocked for 1 hour and a half from Da side

they lost 30v30s 20v20s 40v40s even 40v20s



you cannot really talk about unfair numbers advantage when you actually lose maps in front of your base in 40 of Ets versus 20ish Das



@ the guy saying bad ping, server hosted in EU

i am from EU and this happened:

NA veno approaches me from max range in attempt to purge, i use my 20 meters sleep skill, thanks to bad ping veno manages to get in my melee purge me then get slept afterwards



if you have to talk about ping advantage, NA guys, are the ones having it



and if you have to talk about gear advantage, more B$, there are some Et players that deal inconsistently high damage for their gears, and i am just gonna leave this here

The big disadvantage the Et players have, are some of them need to hire a protologist to find their heads. Some only focus on killing and not on strategy. On Capture the Flag battle, they don't move to protect the flag carrier because they are too focused on killing. Crystal Contest hardly anyone tries to defend crystals that are taken. We have plenty of well geared players, just more need their brains better geared. These players frustrate the rest of us who are well geared and actually try to help the server in NW. I feel sorry for those players who are trying to work on their end game gears and some of our OP players don't care.

xCyberomegax​​

capnk said:

capnk said:

I can't speak for this weekend's NWs, but Hoorah players have a history of ignoring the commander and doing whatever they want. So... enjoy your karma?

Sounds mature oh u blame Vindicate we point the blame elsewhere it must be some other factions fault lolz its like watching school yard playtime

It might be a good idea to balance end nation tokens with the relative players in each nation. So that performance has more weigh in the reward system.

Like for example, this is whut it looks like now:
1st nation: 600 players - 1300 credit - 2.16 per player
2nd nation: 500 - 600 - 1.2 per player
3nd nation: 400 - 700 - 1.75 per player
4th nation: 400- 600 - 1.5 per player
Total credits for all nations: 3200


What should count is the amount of credits each player made, in average.
To balance things out, use each nations average and compute the actual credits by multiplying it with the number of people the largest nation had.


New intermediate results are:
1st nation: 2.16 * 600 => 1300 credit (we all know Da plays NW really well ).
2nd nation: 1.2 * 600 => 720 (gets 120 more credits)
3d nation: 1.75 * 600 => 1050 (350 more credits)
4th nation: 1.5 * 600 => 900 (300 more credits)
Total credits for all nations: 3970

Of course, 3970 is bigger than 3200, which determines a final balancing. 3970 / 3200 = 1.24
So now, previous results are divided by this 1.24:

End results:
1st nation: 1300 / 1.24 = 1048
2nd nation: 720 / 1.24 = 580
3rd nation: 1050 / 1.24 = 846
4th nation: 900 / 1.24 = 725
Total credits for all nations: 3199 (diff of 1 due to rounding).

This last status is actually a much better reward system, based also on performance of each player.


In order to prevent mass quit before nw end time (to artificially increase the computed average), the real nation people amount should be computed as a average of player base per nation, with samples taken 5 minutes before each time tick (when credits are computed).

So player gets banned again from forums. But so addicted that they must make a new account to start more **** in forums xD.