Please rethink the next log-in event

The majority of you who complained about the second teir reward, give yourself a pat on the back. The amount of people of spoke on the forums about wanting it to be changed, DOES NOT SHOW EVERYONE ELSE'S OPINION THAT PLAYS THIS GAMES OPINION OR SIDE. There are so many other issues and broken promises made by the game in the past that continue there way in the present time of this game. How about you make loads of forum post about the DQ promise? 9 mil coins wasn't going to ever hurt or break the game. The game would still be live, things would go back to normal. Gms or whoever that are making these decisions based off 20 people who wrote on the forums to change in their favor is ridiculous. Not all 20 or 30 people speak for everyone! I've had it with this **** game. And the **** community. Pat yourselfs on the back and **** and smile at pissing off the other people because you thought it was gonna destroy the game. As if coins would, coins are virtual it would disappear. Its not a STD or some ****. Jesus Christ. And lol to the new reward, B cards? Like other previously said how about event gold since you wont allow us any coins as a reward. No one **** wants B cards. With so many people pumping money into the game, clearly no one sets out for a damn B card. This game and community is extremely idiotic. Nice work. I wont miss this **** hole at all. How about the people who made this “change possible” work on other problems to solve. Like taking away jones/Omally blessing. Those are certainly evil at work there. You all act like you accomplished something that would benefit everyone. No, it only benefited the people who want no one else to have a lot of coin. You all act so high and mighty, you all are **** heads for complaining on extra income for other people who wanted/needed it. Jack asses!

bloodedone87 wrote: »

reaperarm1 wrote: »

bloodedone87 wrote: »

venox34 wrote: »

^ hoover69 100% bunch of cry babys ruining things for rest of us all probably rich as hell already and not wanting any of us not as OP people making any coin for basic gear

How about you start working for G16 and Rank9 gear like all of us did.
And no you wont make any coin for basic gear if every toon a player has would have got 9mil for free.
Havent you read the comments on this thread were ''we cry babys'' explain how this will ruin the economy, that prices will go high for an item that used to cost 1 mil you will have to pay 3-4 mil?
We know this would have happend cause we already have experiance from past when players auto cultivated with 10 alts per day making bilions of coins per week causing gold to dissapear form AH and to be sell by few players in wc with 5-6 mil per gold.

I have g16, on more than one toon. It was a pain to farm it and luckily because of those toons I stay afloat from them doing bh 100 and fsp. Other than those two sources I have no other ways to obtain coin, sure i could farm herbs in hell for a paltry 400k an hour on average. The fact is the removed almost any way to make coin besides jolly jones, bh 100 and fsp. Cat shops don't sell squat anymore. I walk the shops in west daily and see the same items day after day, week after week cause the only people with surplus amounts of coin to blow don't need what those shops are selling. Those people already have r9rr, refines, shards. So those with coin aint buying and those that want to buy don't have coins to buy things with. What good is gold coming down to 3m instead of 5m each when nobody has coins to buy gold no matter the price. At the rate I make coins r9 is a pipe dream sadly. IT's definitly not from a lack of trying though.

R9 is a pipe dream for you maybe.
by my plans if everything goes well in 6monts- 1 year i should have R9 on my SB which will be my first R9 toon.
Anyway not earlier than 2016 since its last time they sell MOG in boutique this year and right now I dont have money to buy it.

let me explain a thing to you.
When PW anounced they will give 9milions for free for Tier 2 reward on Archosaur server a player was asking other to not sell gold in AH anymore with 3 milions. He said it would be batter for them to wait 5 days and sell it with 5 milions in wc.
MOG is on sale now with 12,5 gold each but lets say 12 gold to be a round price.
So would you like to pay 36milions per MOG with gold at 3 milions or 60mil per MOG at 5 milion coins?

hi lumina.....it's me tera.....you used my WC in your post.....

The problem of this reward wasn't, that average casuals get 9m per character on their account (they might even not have a single account with 8 50+ characters. The problems were people like me. I would get 360m coins. Sure, if I would just lvl up all skills on those toons to level 10, I would need even more than 360m coins. But idc about the alts of my rl wife, I focus only on 3 characters (mainly on 1), the others are just for the look (fashion, customization, BH alts).
And there are people out there which have MANY accounts (either bots or accounts of retired people (core people of long-lasting factions get many accounts as a "gift for the faction" of people which have/want to quit. At the end those accounts "belong" to the person which has access to those).

As a result some people would get many hundreds of millions or even billions of coins. That would have been a bit unfair. Gold price alrady increased about 10-20%.

yetweallfalldown wrote: »

Hi folks,

Quick update regarding the rewards for the login event. We have changed the tier 2 prize to three War Avatar Chest: B. This change has been done based on community feedback for the rewards. We appreciate the continued feedback!

Alex

Thank you so much! ​​

I can see why people were/are a bit freaked out about the coin reward. However, as a player returning after a 3 year absence, I was counting on it to get me back in the game so-to-speak. Mats and prices for everything in general are unbelievable; I have no idea how or where to begin. Last I played I relied on coin from dq to pay my repair bills - now I am unsure what to do until I find my feet again. I can see why people were alarmed at the thought of so much coin entering the game....just kinda sucks in my situation for them to pull it. I don't have 100 alts. I have one account of 3 100+ toons - some still in their TT gear, and a few others that are still more or less babies. It would have given me a chance to get my bearings and begin to find my way again in the game. Just some buffer time to figure out how people are making money, and what would work for me and the classes I actively play.

dblazen1 wrote: »

yetweallfalldown wrote: »

Hi folks,

Quick update regarding the rewards for the login event. We have changed the tier 2 prize to three War Avatar Chest: B. This change has been done based on community feedback for the rewards. We appreciate the continued feedback!

Alex

So, which one of you suggested B chests then? Cause that's really so useful

Also, on that note;
Why don't we change the BH rewards all together, because all these people with high level alts due to abuse of the XP crystal insta 95 giveaway (which you could get twice which was instant 100) can do BH all they want. Causing a gigantic coin increase as well.

I say we remove 2m/5m rewards from BH altogether to fight this.
Let's also remove JoJ quests, because that gives out coins to many many alts as well, causing a huge increase of coins.​​

​This this this!!!!omg yes! Let's remove 2m/5m reward from bh I totally agree! Joj as well great idea! Also all warsong molds and basic badges should npc for one coin, mirages should also npc for 1 coin. We need to fight this awful inflation! Also we can't forget about perfect tokens of best luck, those gotta go too, that's ten mil for every two that enter the economy. Hell, everything in the game needs to be set to 1 coin for npc price. This should end that horrible inflation we suffer. Let's start a thread on this, we need to bring it to the attention of pwe!

they changed the log in reward, for me it just became useless. thanks every complainer

eirghan wrote: »

I'm surprised by the lack of foresight in the last few posts. Lets say we got the 9m per character. Who do you think would benefit more? The new player with 2 or 3 toons or the people who have end game toons who have 20+ levelled characters?

Each "end game rich cash shopping piece of **** player" would have at least .5b-2b or more coin from their alts. Each newer player would have 9m-54m coin. Newer players would be able to afford a few forge fees, maybe some arrows, and pots. While the inflation would cause anything else not weighed down by NPC prices to skyrocket. In the end new players would have a pittance. Much better for younger players to learn to farm what there is available at current market prices. Try JOJ, it's a good start if you are having trouble affording pots and arrows, and if you save up will help you get a few pieces of extra gear that might not be given through rewards now. There is even a mount on day 14, you could start up an herb farming business. At least this way your g16, if that's what you choose, will cost 60m instead of 600m. 9 days in joj will get you close to 9m so it seems like a lot compared to 5days logging in, but the things you want to buy will still be somewhat affordable compared to what it would be if the game was flooded with trillions of coins in a few days. If you're a new player and can't find one of the posts on how to earn money in game at lower levels in the forums, PM me on forums and ill be glad to walk you through a few ways to get money for your day to day costs.

Blame it on cash shoppers all you want. They support the game you're playing, and they are speaking out and trying to ensure that the things you will want to buy in the future remains somewhat affordable for all despite the fact that they would benefit MORE from the promo than the newer player...

Think a bit harder before you blame stupid end game r9s for their selfish decisions.

was laughing so hard about that

as much as ur right in some points, as clueless u r in others

the majority of ppl got at least 10-20 lv50+ chars, so yes, even lowbies wouldve profited at least a bit from it

and its still funny how u want to put urself into the good spotlight and pretend being worried about it when ur one of the first ppl out there lvling even more alts because the "more alts than you will ever know" aint enough already LOL


ofc ppl blame mostly csers for it...they r the ones controlling the market and keeping prices high, so OF COURSE they r worried that all of a sudden others would be able to afford stuff too


and this big inflation everyone seems to qq about
its nothing different than if every player spent lets say 100bucks on the game and bought packs or whatever ingame
noone is crying about that either





and to the other person whose post i cant find
yes a poll wouldve been nice
but yet again half of the ppl cant log in to forums at all or cant post because there seem to be issues with internet browsers...

1+ thing, don't forget reading again about what you did on last login reward, read the complainments, promise something, give something else, i say i give you gold and **** for you. Fack you, liars.

naruto1174 wrote: »

Well, you guys name easy money right? But there is who take 1 month to get 20m. You guys fcked it up, gl getting **** reward. This wouldn't break a **** of economy, because most ppl have only like 3 chars lvl 50+, i have 4 and need g16 for one still so don't give me ****. At least give 9m per acc, for fcks sake, you pwi suck, say something, ppl wait for it, you give us ****, try tasting your own ****.

Wrong. Most people have 4-5 acounts minimum filled up with toons over lvl50 and those who didnt had it they were lvling them in this period. In 1 day you can lvl up 5-6 toons to lvl 50.

dblazen1 wrote: »

yetweallfalldown wrote: »

Hi folks,

Quick update regarding the rewards for the login event. We have changed the tier 2 prize to three War Avatar Chest: B. This change has been done based on community feedback for the rewards. We appreciate the continued feedback!

Alex

So, which one of you suggested B chests then? Cause that's really so useful

Also, on that note;
Why don't we change the BH rewards all together, because all these people with high level alts due to abuse of the XP crystal insta 95 giveaway (which you could get twice which was instant 100) can do BH all they want. Causing a gigantic coin increase as well.

I say we remove 2m/5m rewards from BH altogether to fight this.
Let's also remove JoJ quests, because that gives out coins to many many alts as well, causing a huge increase of coins.​​

This idea that player that are doing bh100 with many alts is getting 2mil or 5 mil coins every day from every alt is so stupid.
Do you even know how bh 100 reward distribution works? Do you know its random and people can get chips and sockets too?

dblazen1, point is you have to do something to get this BH money, to make some efforts, to spend time and get fair reward, not billions. While with this log in event a lot of ppl would generate billions instantly out of nothing.
There was no gold in AH yesterday on my server even before ppl got the money lol Imagine what would be after that.
To those who complain that nv3 is expensive and they can't afford: all you need to afford is 2 gold mats per piece, several days of JoJ farming with nongeared alts. And that's almost all your spendings, rest is negligible. Few years ago we bought nv crystals 300k per uncanny and 1400-1500 per rapture. In comparison to this, nv is free now.
I seriously don't see how 30-50mil will save you if you claim you have only few chars. You play this game for months and years, do few extra weeks to quest farm decent pve gear matter that much?
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sindarella wrote: »

interesting.
for one side, flooding the game with even more coins (bh, smoke, jolly, and others) brings an inflation with severe impacts on the economy. that side gives reasonable cold arguments - and i am pretty sure most of those opposing the 9m freebe are amongs those with enough toons to make it count. so they passed on a huge personal monetary increse in favor of a more stable economy for everyone.

for the other side, flodding the game with coin is free monies. free monies GIBE MONIES KEKEKE. which is their only emotional argument.

you would have gained 9m, but your coins would lose purchasing power significatly. you would lose!

but but they took away botting already, i need coins! who cares if the things i need to be somewhat non useless (shards, pack items etc) dropped to 1/3 of the price they were before-and things i can actually farm (fsp, tt, lunar, etc. still have a significant value), and gold dropped nearly half, i want free coin!

its not like high end people that would get hundreds of millions/into the billions would possible buy up things in the market for fun/alts leaving my 9 million worthless..ill be able to repair my 3* gear!

./sarcasm

shashahah wrote: »

eirghan wrote: »

I'm surprised by the lack of foresight in the last few posts. Lets say we got the 9m per character. Who do you think would benefit more? The new player with 2 or 3 toons or the people who have end game toons who have 20+ levelled characters?

Each "end game rich cash shopping piece of **** player" would have at least .5b-2b or more coin from their alts. Each newer player would have 9m-54m coin. Newer players would be able to afford a few forge fees, maybe some arrows, and pots. While the inflation would cause anything else not weighed down by NPC prices to skyrocket. In the end new players would have a pittance. Much better for younger players to learn to farm what there is available at current market prices. Try JOJ, it's a good start if you are having trouble affording pots and arrows, and if you save up will help you get a few pieces of extra gear that might not be given through rewards now. There is even a mount on day 14, you could start up an herb farming business. At least this way your g16, if that's what you choose, will cost 60m instead of 600m. 9 days in joj will get you close to 9m so it seems like a lot compared to 5days logging in, but the things you want to buy will still be somewhat affordable compared to what it would be if the game was flooded with trillions of coins in a few days. If you're a new player and can't find one of the posts on how to earn money in game at lower levels in the forums, PM me on forums and ill be glad to walk you through a few ways to get money for your day to day costs.

Blame it on cash shoppers all you want. They support the game you're playing, and they are speaking out and trying to ensure that the things you will want to buy in the future remains somewhat affordable for all despite the fact that they would benefit MORE from the promo than the newer player...

Think a bit harder before you blame stupid end game r9s for their selfish decisions.

shashahah wrote: »

I need attention...

If you think i post thoughts on a forum to look good you haven't been reading the masses of peoples posts who are pissed off about the change, including yourself.

This is my last reply. Thanks for taking your time responding to the posts i make. Im honored that i have managed to earn ny own little stalker. Its like being a celebrity. It's kinda cute.