Is there any guaranteed way to Obtain Rank9 Gear in under a year?
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mechabeastmc666 wrote: »Attitudes have 0 to do with R9. The only thing that will get you the gear is The Coin, and the problems to prevent you from getting the Coin that people believe doesn't exist lol. Having a Happy-go-lucky attitude wont automatically give you 300k rep+all the things you need to make the gear. I could be the Worst person in the world and still get the gear if i payed for it.
Aside from that, the points above, I learned my lesson on the other forum about Disagreeing with you specifically. It's useless as long as you have moderator rights. Not implying anything ofc.
But in short, out of all of the post, i haven't seen one Guaranteed way to get R9 gear in under a year. alot of Maybe's. If it came down to it, I'd live longer in life than most of you would. I dont have the mindset of "Put your mind to it with a happy attitude and you can do it!" i know it's some things in Life you just cant do no matter the mindset you have, This gear without Paying for it or having a headstart (aka 100 SIN with 100 gear) in under a year is one of them. Unless pwi takes the price down it wont change. Problems and variables do exist people. lol
Attitude has everything to do with it. If you don't have the mindset that "i'm going to save up for r9," and stick to that, you won't be able to do it. If you don't believe that JJ is worth your time, you won't do it. And then that's over 500 million coins down the drain because you couldn't be bothered. If you don't ever setup a catshop because "I'll never make coin," then you'll never make money off the catshop. You can't make money off of things you aren't doing because "LOL that isn't guaranteed." I mean JJ for example, is guaranteed money. And you are throwing away over 500 mil a year because "it's not worth it," and then complaining that it's impossible to earn a bil. That's a half billion, guaranteed, right there. So yeah, mindset has a big part to do with it.0 -
Ok so you are old and had a failure life that made you believe that you cannot have anything by simply put your mind to work and do it. Now i understand why you have this attitude.
if you want R9 stop the theory and try to put all or half of what this ppl told you in practice.
The good thing in this post is that some ppl learned how to make money reading the commentary of others that have tried to tell you how it possible.0 -
oVenusArmanio wrote: »Attitude has everything to do with it. If you don't have the mindset that "i'm going to save up for r9," and stick to that, you won't be able to do it. If you don't believe that JJ is worth your time, you won't do it. And then that's over 500 million coins down the drain because you couldn't be bothered. If you don't ever setup a catshop because "I'll never make coin," then you'll never make money off the catshop. You can't make money off of things you aren't doing because "LOL that isn't guaranteed." I mean JJ for example, is guaranteed money. And you are throwing away over 500 mil a year because "it's not worth it," and then complaining that it's impossible to earn a bil. That's a half billion, guaranteed, right there. So yeah, mindset has a big part to do with it.0
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mechabeastmc666 wrote: »So in short, there's no guaranteed way to get R9 gear in under a year? It's so crazy what one word left out of a thread tittle can turn to. If nothing in life is guaranteed then that Also goes for the alleged Money making methods in the post above. But people are acting like those methods WILL get you rank 9 and Nothing can go wrong with it. Is there any way i can change the tittle? i left the word Guaranteed out.
You want a guaranted way to have r9 gear under a year? then cash it. buy the r9 with real money. Thats the guaranteed way.
When all ppl telling you that you are drunk and you should go home and sleep yu should start listen to them. Cant you see that no one agrees with you? Simply cause you are wrong.
And you have that attitude of'' what i say its right no matter what others think and all should agree with me cause i said so''.
You failed at this game. Accept that.0 -
mechabeastmc666 wrote: »So in short, there's no guaranteed way to get R9 gear in under a year? It's so crazy what one word left out of a thread tittle can turn to. If nothing in life is guaranteed then that Also goes for the alleged Money making methods in the post above. But people are acting like those methods WILL get you rank 9 and Nothing can go wrong with it. Is there any way i can change the tittle? i left the word Guaranteed out.
OFC not. Auto-cultivation may be worth 5 mil per day on an averagely geared character for now, but the devs might change that with some kind of nerf to the system. Nobody knows what the future will hold. But every method listed has worked for some people. Believing that it's guaranteed failure and impossible to do just because there is some chance for failure is just as ridiculous (if not more so) as believing it's a guaranteed success and nothing could possibly go wrong. What is a guaranteed failure is not trying. JJ for example, so long as it isn't changed by the devs in the next couple of expansions, is a guaranteed half a billion coins in a year. That amount doesn't fluctuate or vary. Half a billion, in a year. Every Time for every person that does it on 2 alts. You could end up with 0 tokens one day in nation wars as well, does that mean nation wars isn't a source of income. Just because you could end up making a bad investment and having to start over in merchanting, doesn't mean you can't turn a profit by merchanting.
And changed your title, even though it doesn't change the fact that everyone is correct in that it's completely and totally possible to do what you're proposing. And in fact, it has been done before.0 -
bloodedone87 wrote: »You want a guaranted way to have r9 gear under a year? then cash it. buy the r9 with real money. Thats the guaranteed way.
When all ppl telling you that you are drunk and you should go home and sleep yu should start listen to them. Cant you see that no one agrees with you? Simply cause you are wrong.
And you have that attitude of'' what i say its right no matter what others think and all should agree with me cause i said so''.
You failed at this game. Accept that.0 -
Why people are still bothering with this is beyond me... Everyone suggesting stuff and the reply is always "But... QQ... QQ"
Still, I will share my way even though it will be dismissed b:pleased
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I have a sin, my toon is now 9 months old, got r9 ring, r9rr daggers, just finished getting the rest of the MoGs with this sale and will get the rest of GST around the next 1-2 months MAX (so, under a year). I don't Cashshop and I didn't have a magic fairy to help me. I also don't play 25h a day (yes, it's an hyperbole)
How I did it:
Made an alt barb (for buffs, in your case, since you want to have a r9 BM make an alt sin, lvl it to at LEAST 34 so you can learn BP (doable in way less than 5h, specially if you do the new starting zone quests, as when you get out you can get Lucid chests and the quests from the Perfect Questmaster which will make your lil sin lvl 20-26 just there).
Quested my way into lvl 80 (did it in way less than a week, like I said, without even playing that much) and in the meanwhile, started to get in squads with people that would pay me to open TT (which appear ALL the time) with which I bought TT gear. At the same time, on the barb's account I made a catshop to buy/sell tokens that was generating around 10M+ every 3 days.
At 80ish I started running FC with squads.
At 90 I started to do TT on solo mode, all the way from 1-1 to 2-2.
At 100 I had enough money for APS gear (which you can also get if you do a fist BM). I refined my gear to +5. Since I had more than enough money by this point, I didn't even bother with FWS and bought crafting service which is CHEAP for what you get (around 20-30M in RT for a weapon).
After this I was the one that started PAYING people to join my squad to open TT in squad mode and started to analyze which TT's were faster/more rentable for me to do on a time/profit scale. It turned out the easiest/fastest/more profitable TT mode I could do at the time was 3-1 Squad mode. I also did BH of course.
This took me 1-1,5 months to do... Not so hard... Then RB came, I rushed thru RB and it made my character much stronger (with passives and etc). I was now able to solo any TT mode. 2x or not, I would farm TT at least 2-3 runs per day (which would take me around 1h for all 3 runs if it was 3-1). Ribbons in TT3-1 for example go for 1M each, you also have the other mats and the chance to get golds (which go for 600k, 3M or 5M depending on the gold in 3-1).
Having made all of this and taking advantage of sales also to 1. Merchant, 2. Get my own Chips/MoGs/Rep took me 9 months.
1. I didn't even do Jolly Jones
2. My char didn't go through the new starting zone, yet, lvling it was not a problem at all
3. PWI's anniversary is coming up, and with it there will probably be 2x yet again, if your goal is to farm I would hurry up on lvling now.
4. I am glad you're not getting R9 or if you do, it will most likely be cash shopped since you have that attitude. I am glad because cash shoppers are the ones paying me and paying for the servers to be up, and also, don't need another R9 QQer, either farmed or cash shopped. b:victory
Off topic:
Also, with the current market, you can get G16 easily... And if your goal is PvE G16 is way more OP than what you need to said purpose.
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You will need 85 GST and 5 MoGs for the weapon.
88 GST and 11MoGs for the rest of the gear.
Even at max price per gold (4M) you will need:
85+88 = 173 * 2.3 (how much each GST costs on sale in gold) * 4M = 1.591,5 Million coins
5 + 11 = 16. You can buy 5 MoGs for 50 gold, and 1 for 12.5M so, (50*3+12,5)*4M = 650M
650M + 1.591,5M = 2241,5M or 2,25 Billion rounded up.
If you get 10M every 3 days in merchanting like i said, in 365 days you get:
365/3days*10M = 1216.6M (rounded down)
So, even without farming, you can make half of the money for r9 just by doing token merch.
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mechad, if you can never see past today you will never meet a goal.Marine - Marshall - Raging Tides - Retired
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DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver
Yes, because people really need 900+ dex or 1000+ magic just for the lulz0 -
mechabeastmc666 wrote: »Merchanting: There is No guaranteed Buyer for any items you may Buy, Other then the NPC. This is Not a way to earn R9 in under a year unless you Deal in Emperor tomes.
Calling all merchants who are reading this topic. We have been enlightened b:victory.
Let us all give up merchanting b:bye.
Now back to the point, no one will buy your emperor tome either by your logic b:surrender.
*goes and starts dropping 5b coins in 1's in west arch* b:cry my merchanting days are over.0 -
Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »Calling all merchants who are reading this topic. We have been enlightened b:victory.
Let us all give up merchanting b:bye.
Now back to the point, no one will buy your emperor tome either by your logic b:surrender.
*goes and starts dropping 5b coins in 1's in west arch* b:cry my merchanting days are over.0 -
mechabeastmc666 wrote: »Emperor tomes sell for an extremely high price. Which is why you Dont need a guaranteed buyer for it. You can have one later down the month if it comes to it. One tome puts a extremely Huge dent in the R9 price. Which is the reason i said "Unless you deal in emperor tomes" Any other item that isnt close to emperors price, would Require a Guaranteed Buyer within that same Day or at least week if you want to make enough coins for R9 in under a year. And that's just not possible, People aren't as stupid as you think they are, They know when something is overpriced and they wont Buy it.This means it'll take a very long while for that item to sell. 2 YEARs to 3 years merchanting? Maybe possible. 1? I seriously doubt that. Unless, you have a Guaranteed Buyer for any items you Buy. (which isnt realistic)
Ummmm, just a check, are we both talking about the same game? PWI? Do we both play this same game?
Have you tried merchanting?
From what i understand about your posts, we do not play the same game, that is why there is confusion amongst the posters.
Do you actively play on any server currently? Actively = playing for 6~12 hours a week minimum.0 -
Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »Ummmm, just a check, are we both talking about the same game? PWI? Do we both play this same game?
Have you tried merchanting?
From what i understand about your posts, we do not play the same game, that is why there is confusion amongst the posters.
Do you actively play on any server currently? Actively = playing for 6~12 hours a week minimum.0 -
mechabeastmc666 wrote: »I didnt say merchanting didnt exist, What i said is that it wouldn't get you R9 money In under a year, Unless you dealt in high ticket items. You're just skimming though.
Here let me help you out, to get an understanding of what merchanting is about.
http://warrenwolfy.wordpress.com/ <---link
Here is a quote to help you more "You’re not trying to buy something and then hold it for 6 months until it eventually sells, you’re trying to re-invest something as many times as you can during that 6 months."
So it does not matter what you merchant. It can be high price or low price, the issue is turnover. If i can sell a 50m item 20times in 6 months, that is 1b coins. If i sell a 700m item once in 6 months, that is 700m coins. See the difference in money? That is why i pointed out your issue with emperor tomes.
Since you like reading, please read all the parts to the guide and don't skim b:cute.0 -
Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »Here let me help you out, to get an understanding of what merchanting is about.
http://warrenwolfy.wordpress.com/ <---link
Here is a quote to help you more "You’re not trying to buy something and then hold it for 6 months until it eventually sells, you’re trying to re-invest something as many times as you can during that 6 months."
So it does not matter what you merchant. It can be high price or low price, the issue is turnover. If i can sell a 50m item 20times in 6 months, that is 1b coins. If i sell a 700m item once in 6 months, that is 700m coins. See the difference in money? That is why i pointed out your issue with emperor tomes.
Since you like reading, please read all the parts to the guide and don't skim b:cute.
I've already saw that Warrenwolf Link, i consider it a laughable Funny-Joke.0 -
It is so laughable he is laughing now at all the coins he made and how many coins you wont make
b:laughMarine - Marshall - Raging Tides - Retired
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DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver
Yes, because people really need 900+ dex or 1000+ magic just for the lulz0 -
Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »It is so laughable he is laughing now at all the coins he made and how many coins you wont make
b:laugh
and you said " oh yes yes yes i believe you sir"
Truth is, I Bet he never made anything. Prolly don't even play anymore lol.0 -
Did you read what I told you about Jones?
Seriously the math is there and is extremely easy and guarantee...
NPC ALWAYS GIVE YOU COINS! b:laugh
700,000 coins a day per character want more? repeat same process with another character over and over there you go.
100% Guarantee no coins no experience no luck no cashing needed
100% guarantee only requires your time.
It what best works for you.
Merchanting will never work for you I know.
80% of people that have R9r3 Cashed it that is true they did not merch it or farm it.
I find it laughtable when someone told me they farmed their gear they say they farmed their MoG but then got tired and cashed the GST b:chuckle
But Jones will work for you if you spend time on it.
Getting R9 is not so hard is nothing compared to getting full JoD or S card set.Do you want PWI to fix the economy before is to late?
please support Perfect World International Forum > Suggestion Box
> Limit Auto Cultivation to 1 hour just like Hyper stones0 -
jwillson123 wrote: »Did you read what I told you about Jones?
Seriously the math is there and is extremely easy and guarantee...
NPC ALWAYS GIVE YOU COINS! b:laugh
700,000 coins a day per character want more? repeat same process with another character over and over there you go.
100% Guarantee no coins no experience no luck no cashing needed
100% guarantee only requires your time.
It what best works for you.
Merchanting will never work for you I know.
80% of people that have R9r3 Cashed it that is true they did not merch it or farm it.
I find it laughtable when someone told me they farmed their gear they say they farmed their MoG but then got tired and cashed the GST b:chuckle
But Jones will work for you if you spend time on it.
Getting R9 is not so hard is nothing compared to getting full JoD or S card set.
i forgot to say, The jolly old jones is a good example of a Guaranteed way for coins. Merchanting Is not. Like you said, the NPC always gives you coins. Not rank9 coins but coins none the less.0 -
mechabeastmc666 wrote: »99.5 % of the people with R999 cashed it, the other 0.5 % Spent Years and years andYears to get theirs. Especially if you do it your Jolly old jones way.
It took me one month of farming in 2x to get 4 r9 armor peices (first 1 month 2x pwe had). I could have gotten the whole set if I did more, but I got burned out. When NW came out it did not take long at all to recast them to stage 2. Farming in fws squads got me all the molds and badges needed for stage 3.
It does not take years if you apply yourself. Just merchanting FS Coins I made around 100m in 3 days starting with 20m coins.
But yeah there are alot of people that cash shopped their r9, but in the end its their money to spendMarine - Marshall - Raging Tides - Retired
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DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver
Yes, because people really need 900+ dex or 1000+ magic just for the lulz0 -
Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »It took me one month of farming in 2x to get 4 r9 armor peices (first 1 month 2x pwe had). I could have gotten the whole set if I did more, but I got burned out. When NW came out it did not take long at all to recast them to stage 2. Farming in fws squads got me all the molds and badges needed for stage 3.
It does not take years if you apply yourself. Just merchanting FS Coins I made around 100m in 3 days starting with 20m coins.
But yeah there are alot of people that cash shopped their r9, but in the end its their money to spend0 -
mechabeastmc666 wrote: »Im the president of every country in the world. Would you like a list of Reasons why farming R9 chest in under a month is not possible.
I would love to see them, and then I will show you how it can be doneMarine - Marshall - Raging Tides - Retired
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DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver
Yes, because people really need 900+ dex or 1000+ magic just for the lulz0 -
Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »I would love to see them, and then I will show you how it can be done0
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mechabeastmc666 wrote: »Truth is, I Bet he never made anything. Prolly don't even play anymore lol.
Let me give you one quote from the guide, because at that time i could not imagine how that could be true. Thanks to you, now i know why it is true.
"Q: If merchanting is so easy, and the profits are so great, then why doesn’t everybody do it?
A: Because they like being poor."
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Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »Let me give you one quote from the guide, because at that time i could not imagine how that could be true. Thanks to you, now i know why it is true.
"Q: If merchanting is so easy, and the profits are so great, then why doesn’t everybody do it?
A: Because they like being poor."
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Guarantees do not exist. There is no guarantee that live goes on tomorrow.
If i start clean at another server and i go for it, the chance that i can make R9 in a year is similar though to the chance that live goes on tomorrow.
Yes mech, i dont know what you are trying to do. Are you just trolling. Or are you indeed a failure who always wants to put the fail in the outside world rather than himself and therefore will never learn because of his resistance to any facts that dont support his ego-saving worldview ?Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0 -
WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »Guarantees do not exist. There is no guarantee that live goes on tomorrow.0
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2x + g16 sage sin + decent refines + TT / catshop farmed TT greens + golds = r9Malice Leader - Raging Tides
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mechabeastmc666 wrote: »If you use your hand to touch your face you are Guaranteed to feel your face. IF you do the jolly old jones quest and complete it, depending on what lvl you are, you are Guaranteed to get Coins for that quest. alot of minor things are guaranteed but Merchanting and Rank 9 gear without spending one coin in under a year isnt. I didnt put Rank 9 in the same category as Life which is Not guaranteed. So i thought maybe there was a Guaranteed way to get the gear in under a year, i thought wrong though.
Bull****, merchanting is just as guaranteed as any of those other things.
And if you give me enough incentive to do it (make me a 100.000$ bet) i do GUARANTEE you that i will make R9 from nothing in less than a year starting from scratch. Ill delete my account and do it. GUARANTEE. not a hair on my head that will have any shred of doubt over winning that 100k from you.Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0 -
WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »Bull****, merchanting is just as guaranteed as any of those other things.
And if you give me enough incentive to do it (make me a 100.000$ bet) i do GUARANTEE you that i will make R9 from nothing in less than a year starting from scratch. Ill delete my account and do it. GUARANTEE. not a hair on my head that will have any shred of doubt over winning that 100k from you.0 -
Yes its guaranteed. I have never ever had an item that i did not manage to sell at a profit.
And even if i would, that would not diminish the long term profit guarantees of merching. Poker is a chance based game. I made a living for 5 years doing it. I was guaranteed to having an income even though id lose like 47% and win like 53%.Everything i write is from PvE perspective unless mentioned otherwise.0
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