State of PWI - January 2014

Crixxix - Raging Tide

Well, I agree that balance between classes must also be restored. The only issue with this is, some people are also more skilled than others, so who do we look at as being too OP? I've seen Nirv t3 take out R9R3, although these are the people who are skilled.

Balancing classes is different than balancing gear, and way more complicated as well. Deciding if a skill is too OP means watching players who use them, but then you also have to consider if their skill level at playing their class.

For instance, say we use poor, decent, average, good, and awesome.

Say we watch a player who is awesome on a... sin take out a barb with no problem. That might lead us to believe that some of the Sin skills might be out of balance, and that they might need to be nerfed. But hey, wait, this isn't the case. This player is just an awesome player of the sin class. Now we go and nerf some skills, and now all the sins QQ that their underpowered.


Hope this make sense. Balancing classes is a very touchy subject, and not as easy as it seems. Regardless, it does need to be done, I 100% agree there.

Miugre - Heavens Tear

From what I've seen, class balance isn't that big of a problem. It's gear balance that obscures everything. Sins wouldn't constantly zerk crit if it weren't for their gear, nor would some barbs be virtually unkillable. There are people of every class who constantly whine about everyone else being more OP than them, even when they are OP themselves.

If you really wanted to have an all-out, indisputable test of class balance... take a group of people who are generally considered the "most skilled" on any given server... remove their gear and replace it with, say, NPC gear... and have them battle it out repeatedly. If one class wins in a landslide more than any other, then you might have a problem. And even then... not every class needs to be at an advantage over every other class. At worst, it just needs to be a rock-paper-scissors type of formula. :P

Either way, the problem of gear needs to be solved before you can even touch class balance issues.

Crixxix - Raging Tide

Agreed, one small step at a time.