Best of Each Class 2014 Dreamweaver

KingCrash - Dreamweaver

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I got bored and skipped a few pages after reading literally the same exact names in every single post lol.

But I would agree with what was said above, wonder how some of the lower geared people would compare if given the same high end gear that (almost) everyone that is named has? I've bumped into a few no names several times that really surprised and impressed me with their skill, and how they manage with the gear they have among all the OP toons running around, can't remember their names off the top of my head, but I made sure to pm them and tell them .

Not saying those named are bad, they are very good at what they do and proved it several times, just makes me wonder about all of those people flying under the radar of popularity that can take you by surprise.

f:cute

Agreed with everything you said.

opkossy

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver wrote: »

But I would agree with what was said above, wonder how some of the lower geared people would compare if given the same high end gear that (almost) everyone that is named has? I've bumped into a few no names several times that really surprised and impressed me with their skill, and how they manage with the gear they have among all the OP toons running around, can't remember their names off the top of my head, but I made sure to pm them and tell them .

Honestly, this sort of thing is why I get more fun and challenge playing on lower level/non-endgame characters than the OP ones. Much more challenge and skill required just to survive in today's current PvP... and the bonus of beating some of the people who have the gear but not the skill makes me smile on the inside.

KingCrash - Dreamweaver

OPKossy wrote: »

Honestly, this sort of thing is why I get more fun and challenge playing on lower level/non-endgame characters than the OP ones. Much more challenge and skill required just to survive in today's current PvP... and the bonus of beating some of the people who have the gear but not the skill makes me smile on the inside.

I always tell myself, bad gear teaches me how to play. Would be nice to see people name others who don't have r9 for a change.

FlyRanger - Dreamweaver

KingCrash - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I always tell myself, bad gear teaches me how to play. Would be nice to see people name others who don't have r9 for a change.

We'll nake people who aren't rank 9 3rd cast when PWI bridges the gap between gears.
Otherwise, it's impossible.

Even a + 12 G 16 can't even come close to beating a + 12 rank 9 3rd.

MontRei - Dreamweaver

OPKossy wrote: »

Honestly, this sort of thing is why I get more fun and challenge playing on lower level/non-endgame characters than the OP ones. Much more challenge and skill required just to survive in today's current PvP... and the bonus of beating some of the people who have the gear but not the skill makes me smile on the inside.

I know it would go completely against PWI's wallet sucking principles to make such a thing but it would be nice to have some sort of contest or even NW separated by soulforce. Then we could see the good players and the ones that just have gear.

I think I even said once not long ago in west arch when Redhood and FlyRanger were at it, and I'll say it again...If you want to see who's really the best, and not the one with the best gear, take it all off and go get NPC stuff and pew pew each other to death. Would be interesting to see that happening between two players...

opkossy

MontRei - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I know it would go completely against PWI's wallet sucking principles to make such a thing but it would be nice to have some sort of contest or even NW separated by soulforce. Then we could see the good players and the ones that just have gear.

I think I even said once not long ago in west arch when Redhood and FlyRanger were at it, and I'll say it again...If you want to see who's really the best, and not the one with the best gear, take it all off and go get NPC stuff and pew pew each other to death. Would be interesting to see that happening between two players...

Nah. NPC gear is a bit extreme since with current skills on most classes a battle in NPC gear boils down to who gets the first hit/CC off (after dodging via genie and such).

But in relatively mid-refine gears of roughly the same quality, that's when you get some awesome fights where skill matters a lot.

MontRei - Dreamweaver

OPKossy wrote: »

Nah. NPC gear is a bit extreme since with current skills on most classes a battle in NPC gear boils down to who gets the first hit/CC off (after dodging via genie and such).

But in relatively mid-refine gears of roughly the same quality, that's when you get some awesome fights where skill matters a lot.

I would assume that with a NPC weapon they would be hitting considerably lower, to the point it would even things out.

Also, you reply really fast for a mod that checks the whole forum O.O

opkossy

MontRei - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I would assume that with a NPC weapon they would be hitting considerably lower, to the point it would even things out.

Also, you reply really fast for a mod that checks the whole forum O.O

Depends on the skill. Arma, for example, would be devastating on a vit build barb (the only effect weapons have on it aside from attack levels is poison fang's damage) and in NPC gear there's nothing a caster could do about it if it went off. Same applies to most skills from casters that tend to have base + weapon% + high add-on damage... and whoever gets off their CC first gets a great advantage in that regard. It doesn't apply to all skills, mind you, (IE: Earthern Rift would be much much weaker compared to other skills an assassin could choose from in NPC gear) but it does apply to enough to make NPC gears not a truly valid option for people with all or most of their skills maxed out.


Response speed varies based on what I'm doing at the moment. b:chuckle

MontRei - Dreamweaver

OPKossy wrote: »

Depends on the skill. Arma, for example, would be devastating on a vit build barb (the only effect weapons have on it aside from attack levels is poison fang's damage) and in NPC gear there's nothing a caster could do about it if it went off. Same applies to most skills from casters that tend to have base + weapon% + high add-on damage... and whoever gets off their CC first gets a great advantage in that regard. It doesn't apply to all skills, mind you, (IE: Earthern Rift would be much much weaker compared to other skills an assassin could choose from in NPC gear) but it does apply to enough to make NPC gears not a truly valid option for people with all or most of their skills maxed out.


Response speed varies based on what I'm doing at the moment. b:chuckle

I see. So a valid option would have to be the same gear with same refines after a certain level. G16 could work for that as long as the refines and I guess shards are the same.

Faster than you this time. Tag b:avoid

KingCrash - Dreamweaver

MontRei - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I see. So a valid option would have to be the same gear with same refines after a certain level. G16 could work for that as long as the refines and I guess shards are the same.

At least with npc gear, there's no fancy weapon procs to worry about.

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver

Serious archer 1v1s should be self buffed. Takes out the luck element of purge. Less charm **** less room for error, more about timing of skills/counters.

I.e. in the example of Tru vs Fly, this would be self buffed no stealth (104 vs 105) no buff pills. They have equal ping iirc so would be the best measure of skill. Sage vs demon makes for an interesting fight.

My money's on Tru, even though he's at a gear disadvantage, removing the need to purge he can use his ws bow, normal pvp genie and if you disallow stealth he kites better than Fly.

FlyRanger - Dreamweaver

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Serious archer 1v1s should be self buffed. Takes out the luck element of purge. Less charm **** less room for error, more about timing of skills/counters.

I.e. in the example of Tru vs Fly, this would be self buffed no stealth (104 vs 105) no buff pills. They have equal ping iirc so would be the best measure of skill. Sage vs demon makes for an interesting fight.

My money's on Tru, even though he's at a gear disadvantage, removing the need to purge he can use his ws bow, normal pvp genie and if you disallow stealth he kites better than Fly.

Did you even see the vid of me and Tru 1 v 1?
We could do it self buffed.
Keep in mind he has Nation Wars, and Tome, which I don't have.

Either way, I can out perform him 1 v 1 self buffed, and he knows this.

Kijinka - Dreamweaver

Kijinka #1 mystic 2014.

Jacerai - Dreamweaver

Since it's the same people pvping in a pve server, and most people squad with each other, I'm confused.

I will, though, add my 2 cents when I'm at my home computer.

Oh, and Bob? Shu wants me to hit you for something on your list. You have been warned.

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver

FlyRanger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Did you even see the vid of me and Tru 1 v 1?
We could do it self buffed.
Keep in mind he has Nation Wars, and Tome, which I don't have.

Either way, I can out perform him 1 v 1 self buffed, and he knows this.

I haven't seen it, post a link I'll have a look. I hope it's not an hour in stealth as Tru says, or a 7 second clip consisting purge triple spark IG auto.

Self buffed is better, less purge luck based. Best of 5 fights.

Keep in mind also you are full +12 josd iirc which he isn't.

SakuLv - Dreamweaver

Cant wait the end of this year to sum up who was the best in ppl opinions f:grin
Not counting if u name ur self as the bestf:meh

TruWarz - Dreamweaver

Fly can't out perform anyone, let alone an annoying fly on the wall. Your video shows when we fought and I was still +8 gear you can't show anything recent because you do nothing but fail. while I keep progressing you done nothing to back up your claims from months ago and literally are nothing to even be considered a threat anymore, your lack of gear comes down to your own fault because everyone who knew the real flyranger knows he would not only outgear me today since I'm still more dots than anything else he wouldn't need to hide in stealth which everyone knows its all you can do. You can't out play me with a higher lvl toon you can't kill anyone with recognizable gear anymore because people know what to expect from you and your too stupid to know how to merch like him, my own in game wife can probably beat you and she's only played her archer for a couple of years. Unless you hide in stealth for an hour against her too till she gets bored of your whining.

SakuLv - Dreamweaver

TruWarz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Fly can't out perform anyone, let alone an annoying fly on the wall. Your video shows when we fought and I was still +8 gear you can't show anything recent because you do nothing but fail. while I keep progressing you done nothing to back up your claims from months ago and literally are nothing to even be considered a threat anymore, your lack of gear comes down to your own fault because everyone who knew the real flyranger knows he would not only outgear me today since I'm still more dots than anything else he wouldn't need to hide in stealth which everyone knows its all you can do. You can't out play me with a higher lvl toon you can't kill anyone with recognizable gear anymore because people know what to expect from you and your too stupid to know how to merch like him, my own in game wife can probably beat you and she's only played her archer for a couple of years. Unless you hide in stealth for an hour against her too till she gets bored of your whining.

I heard so much good about this real flyranger , wish i would know him in person
So if he sold his account and..um DS buy it..why he isnt banned? i bet its against the pwi rules o.o

Sword_tammer (sorry if name not correct) : he posted thread on pwi forum that he been banned for selling his account on wc: which he said he didnt, and why would he if he wanted to continue play pwi not leave.

and yet fly/ds still plays

i dont understand how Support Staff works f:horror

Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver

SakuLv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I heard so much good about this real flyranger , wish i would know him in person
So if he sold his account and..um DS buy it..why he isnt banned? i bet its against the pwi rules o.o

Sword_tammer (sorry if name not correct) : he posted thread on pwi forum that he been banned for selling his account on wc: which he said he didnt, and why would he if he wanted to continue play pwi not leave.

and yet fly/ds still plays

i dont understand how Support Staff works f:horror

b:surrender ive never had to deal with the staff much for bans and stuff, but less theres clean SS insinuating a account selling, the staff wont ban

ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver

SwordTammer did wc he was selling his account

i remember it cuz it was x2 and i was farming tt and saw it

He was obviously trolling as 5+ more people trying to selll overpriced ingame and rl stuff


i think it all started when someone wced they were selling scroll of tome for 900m+

and then people started trolling and thats where he said something like:wanna sell my acc 10k $

Slewdem - Dreamweaver

ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver wrote: »

SwordTammer did wc he was selling his account

i remember it cuz it was x2 and i was farming tt and saw it

He was obviously trolling as 5+ more people trying to selll overpriced ingame and rl stuff


i think it all started when someone wced they were selling scroll of tome for 900m+

and then people started trolling and thats where he said something like:wanna sell my acc 10k $

If it's true that he wc mostly he was just clowning around.. Well you know how those haters go they st in the dark just waiting for anything they can find on you to bring you down.. Hope the person whpo took the time to SS an ticket are well pleased for being a hater..hmm i wonder if that same person talks abut pepople hating on them aswell hmmmmm

ExMyPrecious - Dreamweaver

All that is just ridiculous,knowing how many people actually sold their ingame accounts this days


obviously GMs think we are still in 2009-2010 and people are trying to sell accounts on world chat while others(we all know who) bought/sold accounts on black market and they are freely playing


whatever....PWE is losing money and making other people rich

SakuLv - Dreamweaver

This is why i don't understand how Pwi Support staff works.
f:horror

Decus - Dreamweaver

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

*Tortures OP's sanity*

Is that a thing now to say "OP" instead of "Kossy"? The **** is that? >.>

Jacerai - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Since it's the same people pvping in a pve server, and most people squad with each other, I'm confused.

I will, though, add my 2 cents when I'm at my home computer.

Oh, and Bob? Shu wants me to hit you for something on your list. You have been warned.

Hey you awesome person, you! b:bye

Mitachi - Dreamweaver

Maybe i should do this now that i quit the game b:cute