BP and archers

Saethos - Raging Tide

Fae_Harpy - Archosaur wrote: »

I think it is kind of bias that archers can't get BP. I know there is a lot of arguments as to why not, but when you look at those reasons they actually don't make sense. Lets break them down.

Archers hit too hard and would receive too much health back:
We hit hard but not fast. On average any sin or fist BM can do 4 attacks to our 1. So over those 4 attacks they are receiving the same about of HP back that we would in one hit.

Archers are ranged, therefore not melee:
That doesn't stop my seeker. If she can use BP while attacking from 20 meters, why not my archer.

Would give archers an unfair advantage:
Currently archers are the only class in game that have no type of self heal, whether it be a skill they can use to heal or something gained from another class (Blood Paint). We have to rely solely on apoths or a healer. By allowing us BP that would put us on a more even playing field.

That being said, I personally think it's pointless to give archers BP; I can't see it being very effective in how the class is meant to be played. Far better for them to improve winged shell, give it maybe a bramble affect in PvP or better yet instead of absorbing damage have it work as a over time heal (similar to a self cast IH). I always thought it rather ironic a class that shares it's home with clerics has no self heal to speak of. You'd think those clerics would have taught them at least one or two healing spells.

No sensible BM will APS an archer, it's all about axe charm bypassing. A BM APSing an archer is like a fish trying to swim in a cloud, you're going down and fast. This puts our attack rates extremely even, and we still get almost no benefit from BP unless we zerk, in which case all it does is cancel the zerk. Invalid argument.

Archers use bows, not swords. Skill description in smack, which is ranged, says it delivers a blow through space, think of it as still a melee.

Archers aren't at an unfair advantage, you have a shield, 2 anti stuns, the ability to loop the antistuns with a vac for the longest antistun change in the game, and the fastest running speed (bar venos and barbs) with the ability to slow your target along with a one spark 3 second immunity to everything.

I'd get rid of my ability to use BP for all that. Hands down, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Lolgasmic - Raging Tide

Myisho - Dreamweaver wrote: »

you guys cant you see the b:chuckle i just thought i would post some thing to give you guys some thing to do b:victory

The 2 pages after this post makes me wonder how bored you guys are

MrJohnDoe seems to be the only one who resisted the troll

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »

The 2 pages after this post makes me wonder how bored you guys are

Bored enough to be posting here at the very least
b:pleased

greykraken

I think archers should be given whatever is necessary to be able to kill clerics as quickly and easily as possible.