[PWI: Rising Call] Discussion Thread

Professor_X - Heavens Tear

Fabuleux - Lost City wrote: »

Trophy Mode. Not sure whether its Aba or SoT or both?

Incorrect... It's AEU

Fabuleux - Lost City

vias9x7 wrote: »

ok... here's what my screen looks like when its updateing (links to my facebook) :

https://www.facebook.com/georgianpixie#!/photo.php?fbid=504006703003872&set=a.175482452522967.44212.100001836410715&type=1&theater

i added a description for each issuse on the photo ^ plz look at photo, THEN tell my wth is wrong

f:worry f:shh f:faint f:sweat

ps lol in my pokemon white i choose snivy as my starter and it totally reminds me of this guy > f:angry < i named him snickers xD

Rising Call was a content update, not a new expansion, so no. (Or is it? PWI keeps swapping between Expansion and COntent Update to describe it. Clarification?)

have you tried manual patching?

AlysonRose - Heavens Tear

Only been in aba twice so far. 1st time alone, turned around at the beholders since they have 1.5m hp each and their range makes not getting a group of them more trouble than its worth.

Went back, this time getting hit with 2-3 rocks at a time and dying instantly, repeatedly.

Same goes for half the squad. Only the full R9rrs with 26k hp felt a mild drizzle.

We got to the puppeteer, half the squad and I got ported to the naughty box and the other half failed to do anything useful unless you count sucking and dying a priority.

Then we sat there while our leader glitched through all the walls like a tool for about 20 min, before I just left in disgust.

The mobs give NO xp or drops at all, and all in all I cannot loathe this update more.

The sole good thing to come from this expansion is the meridian system. I actually think its fun.

I, and several people I know at least, actually loved the old aba/sot. I even preferred it before you added the 2 new bosses, because you actually had more than 4 minute runs to a 20 sec boss fight.

At the very least the rocks at the start of new Aba need indicators on the ground so you can have some say in the matter. As it is you just holy path/charger orb as far as you can hoping only one hits you at a time. Failing that, make it so that you CAN'T get hit by more than one simultaneously.

As it is now is like going through about 40 of the hand traps from tt, that detonate instantly and without warning hoping you don't get caught by 3-4 at once. Hell I watched our R9RR heavy pimped out geared bm and cleric's hp bars barely move, but suddenly take a huge hit from several rocks hitting them at once.

And you expect people at lv 99 to go in there and do what exactly? b:chuckle

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Only been in aba twice so far. 1st time alone, turned around at the beholders since they have 1.5m hp each and their range makes not getting a group of them more trouble than its worth.

Went back, this time getting hit with 2-3 rocks at a time and dying instantly, repeatedly.

Same goes for half the squad. Only the full R9rrs with 26k hp felt a mild drizzle.

We got to the puppeteer, half the squad and I got ported to the naughty box and the other half failed to do anything useful unless you count sucking and dying a priority.

Then we sat there while our leader glitched through all the walls like a tool for about 20 min, before I just left in disgust.

The mobs give NO xp or drops at all, and all in all I cannot loathe this update more.

The sole good thing to come from this expansion is the meridian system. I actually think its fun.

I, and several people I know at least, actually loved the old aba/sot. I even preferred it before you added the 2 new bosses, because you actually had more than 4 minute runs to a 20 sec boss fight.

At the very least the rocks at the start of new Aba need indicators on the ground so you can have some say in the matter. As it is you just holy path/charger orb as far as you can hoping only one hits you at a time. Failing that, make it so that you CAN'T get hit by more than one simultaneously.

As it is now is like going through about 40 of the hand traps from tt, that detonate instantly and without warning hoping you don't get caught by 3-4 at once. Hell I watched our R9RR heavy pimped out geared bm and cleric's hp bars barely move, but suddenly take a huge hit from several rocks hitting them at once.

And you expect people at lv 99 to go in there and do what exactly? b:chuckle

Wow... Just wow... This really needs to be fixed... Or at least get different modes like TT's... Something like this:

Cultivation Mode: Spawns a minimal amount of mobs and traps... Summons all bosses needed for Spiritual Cultivation... Normal drops and drop rate belong here too...

Bounty Hunter Mode: Spawns a moderate amount of mobs and traps... Summons BH Boss and maybe 1 or 2 additional bosses of average difficulty to make BH's more challenging but not ridiculously hard either...

Challenge Mode: Spawns everything we have in the caves right now... Of-course being the hardest difficulty, this mode should also have good improved drops and drop rate... The ones who either CSed their gear or worked hard for it should be allowed to have a little advantage after all...

This just seems like the most logic solution to me... I bet if something like this where to happen, everyone would be pleased about the new instances, no matter how much access to OP gear they have... b:thanks

Either way, since Val started working here I actually regained my trust in the PWI company... So I have faith about this at least being looked into and getting a fix in one way or another eventually... It might just take a bit... So don't resort to saying stuff like RageQuiting and such yet... No matter what some OP-geared jerks tell you just because you're not agreeing with them... b:cute

Gwendollyn - Dreamweaver

childplay wrote: »

Which quest enables u to get the items for the matchless wing upgrade?

1 AEU run should let you upgrade the matchless wings, a faction mate just upgraded his.

childplay

Gwendollyn - Dreamweaver wrote: »

1 AEU run should let you upgrade the matchless wings, a faction mate just upgraded his.

I understand it is AEU however where is the initial quest? I'm pretty sure it's not one of the pop-up quests nor is it an automatic drop because I just did 16 AEU runs. The only one that I see possible right now is one of quests the one in AEU which requires 9999 tokens and 9 BOL. However, I understand there should be another quest that enables u to get another token to exchange for the robe. Any idea where?

_dblazen_ - Dreamweaver

I'm wondering about Aba and SoT...

What about the card bosses in there? Are the NPC's still there, do they still spawn with the new mobs?
Has anyone checked it out? b:shutup

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »

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And you expect people at lv 99 to go in there and do what exactly? b:chuckle

oh please, it's not like you cant get help from higher levels. in fact, the new system is more friendly cause after bh you can just tele to the rest of the bosses.

also it's one thing to fail cause the gear reqs are insane and another cause your squad is filled with powerleveled overgeared noobs that don't know how to play.

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wow... Just wow... This really needs to be fixed... Or at least get different modes like TT's... Something like this:
...
. No matter what some OP-geared jerks tell you just because you're not agreeing with them... b:cute

let me tell you the story of my squad:

me, sin, 10k hp, 5aps g16+10
my 99 seeker 6k morai 95 +3
2 archers at 10k hp, g16, didn't check refine
1 veno at 10k hp, g16
2 clerics, 3.5k (some tt green) 6k (g16 low refine)
psy, archer, veno, low hp (around 5k)

sure, not the least OP squad; yet one crappy class selection, I practically grabbed whoever replied.

first part (hard): passing the rocks. that's not gear related, just need 2 holy paths. I think that apos and certain skills reduce the damage too.

second part: kill the mobs. the beholders were tricky; I think that the best way to do them is have a sin stealth, and the rest of squad comes when there is one in the area. after that, you can run around and kill them one or two at a time; with a 10 person squad it's trivial.

third part: puppeteer. first time we did we wiped but that was because an archer went pew pew pew without even BB set up and nobody killed adds. second try was successful and easy; everyone focused on the mobs while I tanked; one bb up one cleric healing. "sure, you are g16+10 aps sin, ofc it's easy for you" fan part, i was dead for 40% of the boss hp cause I died and second cleric was boxed. "still, you had nice archers" yeah true. but if a 10k hp archer or sin can tank it relatively easy, imagine how easy it will be with a proper tank, dunno, a 10k barb or bm? those aren't exactly rare. you may still make an argument that our dps was good and yes it was good, but it was good with absolute no coordination, no good debuffs and with major dds dying; a squad with better coordination can easily have similar dps even without OPness; after all, if you can tank it and kill the adds, there is no rush.


fourth part: killing some more mobs

fifth part: old aba only with teleporters that tele you straight to the bosses and some mobs (bh boss has very few mobs to kill)

and yeah those mobs hit my 99, la/ha mix seeker for less than 400; not an issue with a bp'ed vortex.

so, before QQing and/or worrying about those poor, not OP squads and claim that only r9rr+12 can do it maybe take a step back and get a strategy. the game is evolving past a "holy path to boss, point and afk macro kill" and that's good. Sometimes it is a gear issue. sometimes it's an issue of not being a noob that doesn't know what to play. and in noobs I mainly look at those "I don't fc I kill one mob after the other to level, i'm so pro"

RankNine - Momaganon

still cant put my shards and TT mats into the AH -_-

slamstone

i so like it when ppl start QQing and raging and bla on the forum when they didn't even searched that content by themselves....but on with the masses...like a bunch of sheeps.

yes the sot/aba have been upgraded...a little more spiced up difficulty....what u'dd aspect?

the last instance in game to be able to go random with no strategy or =< NV 1-2st stage +0-+3?

get a hold of yourselves....u actually qq for the sake of it...or probably u have tons of toons weak geared plvled and your worried that u wont be able to do your beloved bh on them without some decent gear?b:laugh

yes the mobs/bosses/whatever u needed in the previous quests/tasks/bh's are still there...only with modified stats and some with modified graphics reordered in different pathways...BUT THEY ARE STILL THERE - CULTI/BH BOSSES AND MOBS

u're sole reason to failing this instance is cuz u didn't stopped for a second to actually think a plan of attack and actually read the tips/questline.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

slamstone wrote: »

i so like it when ppl start QQing and raging and bla on the forum when they didn't even searched that content by themselves....but on with the masses...like a bunch of sheeps.

yes the sot/aba have been upgraded...a little more spiced up difficulty....what u'dd aspect?

the last instance in game to be able to go random with no strategy or =< NV 1-2st stage +0-+3?

get a hold of yourselves....u actually qq for the sake of it...or probably u have tons of toons weak geared plvled and your worried that u wont be able to do your beloved bh on them without some decent gear?b:laugh

yes the mobs/bosses/whatever u needed in the previous quests/tasks/bh's are still there...only with modified stats and some with modified graphics reordered in different pathways...BUT THEY ARE STILL THERE - CULTI/BH BOSSES AND MOBS

+1
and you only need to do one extra boss for the oht culti bosses/bh. which is not hard even for undergeared squads (i'm talking tt90) with a decent squad setup.

Mitachi - Dreamweaver

I don't find it hard at all. Sounds like you just got crappy clerics who don't know how to survive.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Mitachi - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't find it hard at all. Sounds like you just got crappy clerics who don't know how to survive.

mita b:hi
seriously, we had a 3.5k cleric and she survived fine (falling rocks took some practise (aka waiting for two holy paths to charge up)); it's finally an instance where skill matters and it's not point and kill

saif323

Do we have any new equipments/weapons after this new expansion?

Mitachi - Dreamweaver

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

mita b:hi
seriously, we had a 3.5k cleric and she survived fine (falling rocks took some practise (aka waiting for two holy paths to charge up)); it's finally an instance where skill matters and it's not point and kill

Exactly XD Spamming squad heals isn't going to keep people alive like most clerics do b:chuckle Time to grow out of squad heal spam and learn how to play

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Mitachi - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Exactly XD Spamming squad heals isn't going to keep people alive like most clerics do b:chuckle Time to grow out of squad heal spam and learn how to play

b:laugh squad heals kept people alive in WS mostly because we were spamming pots, self heals and charm burn

starfever

OK so I've not read every post in this thread so apologies if what i'm saying has already been said ......

My problem is that after downloading patch I have several BIG glitches:

1- My wings are INVISIBLE
2- My weapon(s) are INVISIBLE
3- My TOON is INVISIBLE when i switch to GEAR mode and also in SOME fash !!!!
4- New NPCs and some recent NPCs are only represented by 3 large red letters ... ERR (error)

I ran VERIFY overnight hoping it would clear the glitches but NOTHING CHANGED !!!!
So what do i do now? Any suggestions PLEASE??

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

let me tell you the story of my squad:

me, sin, 10k hp, 5aps g16+10
my 99 seeker 6k morai 95 +3
2 archers at 10k hp, g16, didn't check refine
1 veno at 10k hp, g16
2 clerics, 3.5k (some tt green) 6k (g16 low refine)
psy, archer, veno, low hp (around 5k)

sure, not the least OP squad; yet one crappy class selection, I practically grabbed whoever replied.

first part (hard): passing the rocks. that's not gear related, just need 2 holy paths. I think that apos and certain skills reduce the damage too.

second part: kill the mobs. the beholders were tricky; I think that the best way to do them is have a sin stealth, and the rest of squad comes when there is one in the area. after that, you can run around and kill them one or two at a time; with a 10 person squad it's trivial.

third part: puppeteer. first time we did we wiped but that was because an archer went pew pew pew without even BB set up and nobody killed adds. second try was successful and easy; everyone focused on the mobs while I tanked; one bb up one cleric healing. "sure, you are g16+10 aps sin, ofc it's easy for you" fan part, i was dead for 40% of the boss hp cause I died and second cleric was boxed. "still, you had nice archers" yeah true. but if a 10k hp archer or sin can tank it relatively easy, imagine how easy it will be with a proper tank, dunno, a 10k barb or bm? those aren't exactly rare. you may still make an argument that our dps was good and yes it was good, but it was good with absolute no coordination, no good debuffs and with major dds dying; a squad with better coordination can easily have similar dps even without OPness; after all, if you can tank it and kill the adds, there is no rush.


fourth part: killing some more mobs

fifth part: old aba only with teleporters that tele you straight to the bosses and some mobs (bh boss has very few mobs to kill)

and yeah those mobs hit my 99, la/ha mix seeker for less than 400; not an issue with a bp'ed vortex.

so, before QQing and/or worrying about those poor, not OP squads and claim that only r9rr+12 can do it maybe take a step back and get a strategy. the game is evolving past a "holy path to boss, point and afk macro kill" and that's good. Sometimes it is a gear issue. sometimes it's an issue of not being a noob that doesn't know what to play. and in noobs I mainly look at those "I don't fc I kill one mob after the other to level, i'm so pro"

Thank you for sharing this experience... Yes, good experiences are welcome to be shared as well... Seems like normal geared ppl should be able to tag along just fine as well... I'm happy to see that... This is exactly why I was asking for more user experiences too... And this info is pretty useful as a nice guide too... Btw, you've definitely earned some of my respect by taking low-geared ppl as well... Aside from my friends, not many OP-geared ppl do that these day's... b:thanks

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Thank you for sharing this experience... Yes, good experiences are welcome to be shared as well... Seems like normal geared ppl should be able to tag along just fine as well... I'm happy to see that... This is exactly why I was asking for more user experiences too... And this info is pretty useful as a nice guide too... Btw, you've definitely earned some of my respect by taking low-geared ppl as well... Aside from my friends, not many OP-geared ppl do that these day's... b:thanks

tbh it's not like I had many choices and I'd rather form in 5min and spend one hour in an instance than tele for one hour and spend 5min in the instance.

but yeah, I think bh is pretty doable even for normal/low geared people that adjust to the instance (falling stones, killing adds and watch out for what the ads do e.g. the psy has sov) and have a good class selection. I'd say that you need a cleric one more healer, one main tank and one secondary tank and then DDs; rainbow buffs will be nice. My ideal squad would be: 2 clerics, 1 mystic (res buff!), barb (main tank), bm (sec tank), sin (dd/sec tank), seeker (aoe mobs, sec tank, debuffs/buffs) +2.

Fryvorg - Sanctuary

There's just one boss I found really hard: The Hellfire Abomination in Seat, cause he constantly aoe's with super high damage (on my nirv T3 Cleric for 7000), so BB or spamming squad heals was needed. Basically, when BB dropped and we couldn't back it up within 10 seconds, our squad wiped. But it was hell of a fun experience trying to figure out how we could manage it, but in the end ramboing in the boss neglecting the adds helped us defeat him xD

The rest was rather okay in difficulty if you paid attention to the blinking texts and popping windows. Still a lot of fun!

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

tbh it's not like I had many choices and I'd rather form in 5min and spend one hour in an instance than tele for one hour and spend 5min in the instance.

but yeah, I think bh is pretty doable even for normal/low geared people that adjust to the instance (falling stones, killing adds and watch out for what the ads do e.g. the psy has sov) and have a good class selection. I'd say that you need a cleric one more healer, one main tank and one secondary tank and then DDs; rainbow buffs will be nice. My ideal squad would be: 2 clerics, 1 mystic (res buff!), barb (main tank), bm (sec tank), sin (dd/sec tank), seeker (aoe mobs, sec tank, debuffs/buffs) +2.

Just did SoT on Archer... That wasn't bad at all... We only had like 3 OP-geared ppl among us... Don't know about Aba BH yet... Or Culti in SoT... But SoT BH didn't suck at all... f:grin

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Just did SoT on Archer... That wasn't bad at all... We only had like 3 OP-geared ppl among us... Don't know about Aba BH yet... Or Culti in SoT... But SoT BH didn't suck at all... f:grin

haven't tried sot yet... do you get a teleport npc that teles you to the old bosses?

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

haven't tried sot yet... do you get a teleport npc that teles you to the old bosses?

You teleport through starting NPC to Nightmare Gate... Then you kill a few mobs and there's the boss... Some mobs have Phys imunity though... f:grin

vias9x7

Fabuleux - Lost City wrote: »

Rising Call was a content update, not a new expansion, so no. (Or is it? PWI keeps swapping between Expansion and COntent Update to describe it. Clarification?)

have you tried manual patching?

in 13 mins it will be 24hrs now of non-stop attempts at updateing now (so far its like at 49% at most -.-")

how does one manual patch?

foxy alone f:horror f:thanks f:brick f:hehe

vias9x7

lmfao god i love that lil fox xD

Lanaught - Harshlands

Don't know if anyone has noticed or if I'm just imagining things but I think the limit on Jones quest per day was lifted. I had like 20 tokens on and was able to use them all up to get quests o.o

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

This is my favorite part of the update: http://i.imgur.com/64C60Hj.png

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

This is my favorite part of the update: http://i.imgur.com/64C60Hj.png

now I want itb:shocked

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

This is my favorite part of the update: http://i.imgur.com/64C60Hj.png

Thanks... I coughed out my drink thanks to that... f:spew

Btw... Is that a Kyubey face you got as title? It does look like one... f:ponder

Sidwinder - Heavens Tear

Lanaught - Harshlands wrote: »

Don't know if anyone has noticed or if I'm just imagining things but I think the limit on Jones quest per day was lifted. I had like 20 tokens on and was able to use them all up to get quests o.o

Figures I was going to save my extra's and ended up vendoring them b:angry. Good to know though unless it's a bug that will be fixed.