Pan Gu tome

Grimmjow_X - Dreamweaver

i would like to see Pan Gu Tome added to the NW forge to beable to upgraded to Dominance

Love up and down cost

Supply Tokens (500)

Seal of War (40)

Love: Up and Down

Gold: 78.750.000



Pan Gu upgrade should be around

Supply Tokens (1000)

Seal of War (40)

Pan Gu, Creator

Gold: 99.900.000

it seem alot of you are complaning about the price i set, and i think it is because most of you dont know the price of MAKING a Pan Gu, Creator

to make a Pan Gu, Creator you need

657 Mystical Tome Fragment
876 Mystical Tome Page

Mystical Tome Fragment cost around 100k each = 66m Coin
Mystical Tome Page cost around 240k each = 210m Coin

to the Total price of a Pan Gu, Creator is 276m Coin

but it was was just a Suggestion a more Fair might be

Supply Tokens (2000)

Seal of War (40)

Pan Gu, Creator

Gold: 99.900.000

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear

Then you would have to add all tomes in the Pan Gu range to it too. The point of the NW forge is to upgrade end game. Pan Gu is not end Game. Love Up & Down is and all tomes in that range.

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur

No.
It defeats the purpose of being exclusively to scroll of tome tome's then.

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »

No.
It defeats the purpose of being exclusively to scroll of tome tome's then.

+1 b:victory

XSonOfCircex - Sanctuary

I agree with the other responses.
Pan Gu is supposed to be the cheeper way to get APS. You save 200m and still get the -.05 int. It was never an end game tome the way that LUAD or the +45 stat tomes were.

Additionally, the OP's suggestion would almost entirely invalidate the price difference between the tomes. At least on Sanctuary, a scroll of tome or derivative tome is approximately 200m more than a Pan Gu. The OP suggests increasing the manufacturing cost by a little over 20m, and 500 tokens, which would be <40m total, since tokens are now under 80k (raps <90k, 10k manufacturing cost), so a total price increase of approximately 60m total. That would be a price decrease in Dominance of 140m. Add to that the fact that tokens have not yet plateaued, as they continue to drop slightly every week, a process that should continue for the foreseeable future.

I say this as someone who doesn't have that tome yet and wants it. This would actually be stupid.

If the Devs were to follow up on this suggestion and make the tome accessible through any grade 6 tome (Pan Gu isn't the only one, smart one) the price increase would need to be reflective of the demonstrative drop in price going from a grade6 tome to a level 7 tome. However, I think that this would still be illogical, as Scroll of Tome tomes are grade 7 tomes, and dominance is basically grade 8. With every other set of tomes, you need the previous level to make the subsequent one. No where do you go from grade n to grade n+2.

Deadalus - Harshlands

Well, basicly Pan Gu, Creator was the endgame Tome till the packs came around, iving away Scroll of Tome.

There is just no way ingame, where you can build a LUAD or any other Lv 7 tome without that cash shop item.
Ofc Cash Shop is considered endgame by now (Did anyone said Rank 9?) and obviously ppl dont want others to get, what they paid alot more for. Ofc LUAD was just a status symbol, noone would pay 200mil more for a tome, which is just slightly better (and with slightly, i mean "wtf u paid 200m more for that thing" slightly)

Well i dont agree with the OP too, i would just add a feature ingame (not NW forge or any other NW item related thing), where you could upgrade your Lv 6 tome to a Lv 7 one (With Mystical Tome Fragment and the Pages maybe?) and all QQ is over.

How about that

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear

Pan Gu Creator

Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds - 100%
Channelling -1%
Strength +9
Dexterity +9
Magic +9
Vitality +8
Critical Hit Rate +1%

Love Up & Down

Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds
Channelling -1%
Strength +13
Dexterity +13
Magic +13
Vitality +12
Critical Hit Rate +1%

Dominance

Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds - 100%
Channelling -3% - 100%
HP: +280 - 100%
Strength +25 - 100%
Dexterity +25 - 100%
Magic +25 - 100%
Critical Hit Rate +2% - 100%
Speed +0.1 meters/second - 100%


Your talking a differance of +4 on each stat more than the previous between the Pan Gu and Love Up & Down. Compare that to the differance betwen LUAD and the Dominance. That's not slight. That's a decent differance when it comes to stat's on a tome. I don't see a point in doing anything to the Pan Gu. If you have a Pan Gu and your willing to spend the coin, tokens and sow's on a next lvl up tome. Sell the tokens, sow's, and take the amount of coins it would cost to make the lvl up and get a LUAD.

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur

XSonOfCircex - Sanctuary wrote: »

I agree with the other responses.
Pan Gu is supposed to be the cheeper way to get APS. You save 200m and still get the -.05 int. It was never an end game tome the way that LUAD or the +45 stat tomes were.

Additionally, the OP's suggestion would almost entirely invalidate the price difference between the tomes. At least on Sanctuary, a scroll of tome or derivative tome is approximately 200m more than a Pan Gu. The OP suggests increasing the manufacturing cost by a little over 20m, and 500 tokens, which would be <40m total, since tokens are now under 80k (raps <90k, 10k manufacturing cost), so a total price increase of approximately 60m total. That would be a price decrease in Dominance of 140m. Add to that the fact that tokens have not yet plateaued, as they continue to drop slightly every week, a process that should continue for the foreseeable future.

I say this as someone who doesn't have that tome yet and wants it. This would actually be stupid.

If the Devs were to follow up on this suggestion and make the tome accessible through any grade 6 tome (Pan Gu isn't the only one, smart one) the price increase would need to be reflective of the demonstrative drop in price going from a grade6 tome to a level 7 tome. However, I think that this would still be illogical, as Scroll of Tome tomes are grade 7 tomes, and dominance is basically grade 8. With every other set of tomes, you need the previous level to make the subsequent one. No where do you go from grade n to grade n+2.

With the pricing I agree 100%, the OP seems to think 500 tokens is actually worth a heck of a lot....
Seals of war is where the cost really comes in, but even then it's still defeating the purpose of LUAD/SoT tomes being the only tomes capable of being upgraded into such epic tomes thus making cash shopped the easiest way to obtain the SoT as it's a pack item, when Pan Gu is easily farmable (several of my friends have done it in a matter of months)
But yeah, it would mean PWI loses money → PWI no likey lose money so it ain't gonna happen.

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Pan Gu Creator
Your talking a differance of +4 on each stat more than the previous between the Pan Gu and Love Up & Down. Compare that to the differance betwen LUAD and the Dominance. That's not slight. That's a decent differance when it comes to stat's on a tome. I don't see a point in doing anything to the Pan Gu. If you have a Pan Gu and your willing to spend the coin, tokens and sow's on a next lvl up tome. Sell the tokens, sow's, and take the amount of coins it would cost to make the lvl up and get a LUAD.

Exactly, if you can afford to even make the Dominance via lvl 6 tome, you would easily be able to afford LUAD as is currently needed for Dominance.

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear

the other difference is that traceless has a bigger damage range while peak of clouds has a narrow one.

Since you probably go for 200 dex anyway, i think that is not really a factor. I would just go for the one that is first available to you.

Sword_Tammer - Dreamweaver

This is a nice suggestion, i also made the same. Actually there is no such thing call end game items, coz PWI is always greedy and add more new items, best thing is make ppl happy by giving them a chance of making new items with what they have ( what is actually fair).

Pan Gu Range (lvl 6 Tomes) need to be add to NW forge for better satisfaction of players.

Agreed with the idea. Ty for awesome post bud.

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear

Sword_Tammer - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This is a nice suggestion, i also made the same. Actually there is no such thing call end game items, coz PWI is always greedy and add more new items, best thing is make ppl happy by giving them a chance of making new items with what they have ( what is actually fair).

Pan Gu Range (lvl 6 Tomes) need to be add to NW forge for better satisfaction of players.

Agreed with the idea. Ty for awesome post bud.

As far as end game goes, it's what's available at this point in time, not what the future has to hold. The topic is about current tomes available to players.

If you want to add Pan Gu tomes and get technical, then you need to add all the lower lvl tomes too, to make ALL players happy that are not able to buy Pan Gu. This would make no sense to do.

Next thing you know people are going to be saying, they need to put the R8 ring in the NW forge for those that can't afford R9, or R7, R6 and below. We can go on and on about what people will claim they want to add. NW forges have exclusive items to make them better then they are. It's a forge to get people looking forward to making something thats the best, even better.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Deadalus - Harshlands wrote: »

Well, basicly Pan Gu, Creator was the endgame Tome till the packs came around, iving away Scroll of Tome.

Nope. Pan Gu tome was added long after Scroll of Tome was available. When packs came out the highest tome you could manufacture from tome fragments was level 5 (ie Voidlands).

Pan Gu has never been end game.

They should probably enable the recipe that allows you to upgrade a Pan Gu into a Love Up and Down with 2 other level 6 tomes: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/recipe/2373

Deadalus - Harshlands

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Pan Gu Creator

Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds - 100%
Channelling -1%
Strength +9
Dexterity +9
Magic +9
Vitality +8
Critical Hit Rate +1%

Love Up & Down

Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds
Channelling -1%
Strength +13
Dexterity +13
Magic +13
Vitality +12
Critical Hit Rate +1%

Just talking about those two. Maybe its in the opinion of just a few, but i say, that 4 stats arent worth 200mil+ on the item.

Back then, LUAD was the end station for every tome, because there was no way to upgrade it, even when pwdatabase gave you some more tomes like Everlasting, it wasnt optainable ingame.
LUAD was only a thing to show of, that you have money. You could not upgrade it in any way.

Now, they upgradet the cash shop only item to be more powerful and thats fine with me, but we, who said that Pan Gu is fine and we could spend those 200mil on other parts, are screwed now.
We are stuck at Pan Gu and most of the probably bound the tome to not lose it.
So? I never said, that i want it to be addet to the NW forge, no?

Just add a feature, to upgrade Lv 6 tomes to lv 7 tomes using Mystical tome Fragment and the Pages. Thanks


Edit:

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nope. Pan Gu tome was added long after Scroll of Tome was available. When packs came out the highest tome you could manufacture from tome fragments was level 5 (ie Voidlands).

Pan Gu has never been end game.

Really? Well, okay. Didnt knew that one. I ever thought, that it was possible before Scroll of Tome came out. Thanks for letting me know

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nope. Pan Gu tome was added long after Scroll of Tome was available. When packs came out the highest tome you could manufacture from tome fragments was level 5 (ie Voidlands).

Pan Gu has never been end game.

They should probably enable the recipe that allows you to upgrade a Pan Gu into a Love Up and Down with 2 other level 6 tomes: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/recipe/2373

I agree.. +1 the recipe part.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nope. Pan Gu tome was added long after Scroll of Tome was available. When packs came out the highest tome you could manufacture from tome fragments was level 5 (ie Voidlands).

Pan Gu has never been end game.

They should probably enable the recipe that allows you to upgrade a Pan Gu into a Love Up and Down with 2 other level 6 tomes: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/recipe/2373

The one thing about this, PanGu runs about 220m, x 3=660m. LUAD goes for about 530m on HT server. That's not worth making. I rather sell the 3 tomes, and buy a LUAD and still have money left.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nope. Pan Gu tome was added long after Scroll of Tome was available. When packs came out the highest tome you could manufacture from tome fragments was level 5 (ie Voidlands).

Pan Gu has never been end game.

They should probably enable the recipe that allows you to upgrade a Pan Gu into a Love Up and Down with 2 other level 6 tomes: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/recipe/2373

Why would a Pan Gu tome be added after a Love Up & Down. I've been playing for over 4 years and I remember Pan Gu was always a tome in the game and LUAD was the rarest item on the game, but tons of people had Pan Gu's. My girl started playing way before I did, and I remember her showing me the LUAD when it came out in the boutique agent to get with an SOT. It came out around the time of Lunar robes in the boutique.

AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why would a Pan Gu tome be added after a Love Up & Down. I've been playing for over 4 years and I remember Pan Gu was always a tome in the game and LUAD was the rarest item on the game, but tons of people had Pan Gu's. My girl started playing way before I did, and I remember her showing me the LUAD when it came out in the boutique agent to get with an SOT. It came out around the time of Lunar robes in the boutique.

LUAD was available before Pan Gu.

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

They should probably enable the recipe that allows you to upgrade a Pan Gu into a Love Up and Down with 2 other level 6 tomes: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/recipe/2373

I actually do agree with that, makes farming an LUAD more achievable in small bits e.g. getting tome frags and pages a bit at a time rather than having to blow 400 odd million to buy a Scroll.

Heartz - Dreamweaver

so the people that went the cheap way, is not annoyed they can't use it for an upgrade. what are ya smoking, it's logical it's the way it is. Back in the day when I got my love up and down I was actually only buying that because I was thinking.. If there one day comes an upgrade it'd suck to eb stuck with pan gu. Glad I was thinking that.

buying the cheaper option will often bite you in the butt later.

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear

Heartz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

so the people that went the cheap way, is not annoyed they can't use it for an upgrade. what are ya smoking, it's logical it's the way it is. Back in the day when I got my love up and down I was actually only buying that because I was thinking.. If there one day comes an upgrade it'd suck to eb stuck with pan gu. Glad I was thinking that.

buying the cheaper option will often bite you in the butt later.

tue, LUAD is the way to go.

Sword_Tammer - Dreamweaver

Heartz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

so the people that went the cheap way, is not annoyed they can't use it for an upgrade. what are ya smoking, it's logical it's the way it is. Back in the day when I got my love up and down I was actually only buying that because I was thinking.. If there one day comes an upgrade it'd suck to eb stuck with pan gu. Glad I was thinking that.

buying the cheaper option will often bite you in the butt later.

Yup its easy for u to tell cos u buy everything, we actually grind what we have, so the cheapest things is best suit for us, cos we dont have ****** $$$$$$ to spend on the game.

GL

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur

Sword_Tammer - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yup its easy for u to tell cos u buy everything, we actually grind what we have, so the cheapest things is best suit for us, cos we dont have ****** $$$$$$ to spend on the game.

GL

I'm a non cash shopper.
I don't think pan gu should be able to be upgraded.
LUAD is the expensive choice because it can be upgraded.
Pan gu was often chosen for people needing the aps but not enough for LUAD.
LUAD was often chosen for people who wanted the extra stats too.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »

I'm a non cash shopper.
I don't think pan gu should be able to be upgraded.
LUAD is the expensive choice because it can be upgraded.
Pan gu was often chosen for people needing the aps but not enough for LUAD.
LUAD was often chosen for people who wanted the extra stats too.

That's not really a good reason, especially when the suggestion asks for it to cost more to upgrade, balancing it out somewhat. Why not upgrade level 6 tomes as well so people aren't left in the dust? Even if it costs more.

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

That's not really a good reason, especially when the suggestion asks for it to cost more to upgrade, balancing it out somewhat. Why not upgrade level 6 tomes as well so people aren't left in the dust? Even if it costs more.

Their suggestion barely made a 50m difference, if that, I do agree with Aster's suggestion for lvl 6 yo be combined into lvl 7 tomes, definitely.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Tide_Surfer - Archosaur wrote: »

Their suggestion barely made a 50m difference, if that, I do agree with Aster's suggestion for lvl 6 yo be combined into lvl 7 tomes, definitely.

Suggestions can be tweaked. If it's 50m difference though, chance are Pan Gu would rise to a point where there's on ly 50m difference between it and level 7 tomes or L:UaD would fall.

Grimmjow_X - Dreamweaver

XSonOfCircex - Sanctuary wrote: »

With every other set of tomes, you need the previous level to make the subsequent one. No where do you go from grade n to grade n+2.

i made my Pan Gu from lvl 1 tome so i know what you are saying is NOT TRUE

to make a Pan Gu you need

The Voidlands

Gang of Hooligans

Rouge and Red Lips

to make them you need a lvl 4 Tome named The River's Edge

and it is make from (one lvl 3) AND (two lvl 2 Tomes), so not true mister xsonofcircex

some say something about R8 ring, i like that idea of upgrading the R8 ring not to a r9 ring but to a r8r ring

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Grimmjow_X - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i made my Pan Gu from lvl 1 tome so i know what you are saying is NOT TRUE

to make a Pan Gu you need

The Voidlands

Gang of Hooligans

Rouge and Red Lips

to make them you need a lvl 4 Tome named The River's Edge

and it is make from (one lvl 3) AND (two lvl 2 Tomes), so not true mister xsonofcircex

some say something about R8 ring, i like that idea of upgrading the R8 ring not to a r9 ring but to a r8r ring

:facepalm:

Grimmjow_X - Dreamweaver

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

:facepalm:

1 word can say alot about a persons intelligensb:chuckle

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Grimmjow_X - Dreamweaver wrote: »

intelligensb:chuckle

I agreeb:chuckle

Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

That's not really a good reason, especially when the suggestion asks for it to cost more to upgrade, balancing it out somewhat. Why not upgrade level 6 tomes as well so people aren't left in the dust? Even if it costs more.

Why not upgrade all tomes from 1-7? Some people can't afford pan Gu's either. Doing that makes no sense. Why not upgrade all Lunar Robes? Why not upgrade all Lunar rings also. You can say that about anything. the point of the upgrade is to make what's currently end game on our server, even more end gamier(b:chuckle)

Grimmjow_X - Dreamweaver

i made this post because Pan Gu has been made close to worthless with the LUD being upgradeable, and most ppl that have the Pan gu cost like 300m to make it and now it sells for what 150m or so, what is wrong with asking that the tome that is the HIGHEST LVL TO GET FROM FARM to be upgradeable also just like g15 nivy have been gotten a upgrade version.

MrJohnDoe - Dreamweaver

Yes I agree Pangu Creator should be up-gradable, even if with a botique item, imagine people that bound the tome, or even a high cost that it takes to upgrade Love Up and Down, i mean supply tokens/SoW at the forges.

Just give an option to go from Lv6 to Lv7 at least, like 2 Pangus to make a Love Up and Down.

SweetieBot - Lothranis

MrJohnDoe - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes I agree Pangu Creator should be up-gradable, even if with a botique item, imagine people that bound the tome, or even a high cost that it takes to upgrade Love Up and Down, i mean supply tokens/SoW at the forges.


Just give an option to go from Lv6 to Lv7 at least, like 2 Pangus to make a Love Up and Down.

NECROOO!!!!!!!

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