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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Veneir - Dreamweaver wrote: »


    Well I think you should all thank Zheii for her wonderful insight, so there >:3
    Thankies Zheii~

    As I said before, the rankings have always been oddly exclusive. You saw the ticket, and yet I do not appear. Why? No idea. There are other players with similar situations that haven't appeared since day 1, some that just recently appeared, and some that have disappeared.

    As I have said many, many, many times before, the rankings are inaccurate.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Devil's Advocate here: how are they broken or inaccurate?

    What I mean is that based on their glitchiness, I always got the impression they were late, AKA someone with 25k kills may actually have 28k, but they haven't been updated yet cause the list likes to break semi-anually. I'm just saying that "broken" would imply the list makes no damned sense and random blue names are listed as having 25k kills; a delay on the other hand still gives a good estimate of kill counts and guild rankings, since typically people gain kills/TW victories at similar rates.

    But yeah, fix that ****. I know a lot of people who do like to check it, for varying reasons.
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  • NigeIus - Dreamweaver
    NigeIus - Dreamweaver Posts: 399 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    i dont know how it is working for u in other languages, for bms in dw server it is not working and it didnt change since 3months ago.
  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    As I said before, the rankings have always been oddly exclusive. You saw the ticket, and yet I do not appear. Why? No idea. There are other players with similar situations that haven't appeared since day 1, some that just recently appeared, and some that have disappeared.

    As I have said many, many, many times before, the rankings are inaccurate.

    Inaccurate rankings are better than none at all :3

    And thank you Ven, your so sweet D;
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    SweetieBot please give Veneir - Dreamweaver 5 points for being so super sweet<3 :3
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  • SweetieBot - Lothranis
    SweetieBot - Lothranis Posts: 18,978 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »
    SweetieBot please give Veneir - Dreamweaver 5 points for being so super sweet<3 :3
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Zheii - Archosaur wrote: »
    Inaccurate rankings are better than none at all :3

    That, literally, has nothing to do with the points I raised.

    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Devil's Advocate here: how are they broken or inaccurate?

    My post was edited, but I presented a ticket that was answered with (what I assume is) an accurate kill count, and yet my character does not, and has not appeared. Likewise, I know people that have been around since the beginning of DW and have never appeared, though they have (in a similar fashion) verified their kills.

    Actually, why am I retyping this for what probably amounts to the fourth time in this thread...
    ...the rankings have always been oddly exclusive. You saw the ticket, and yet I do not appear. Why? No idea. There are other players with similar situations that haven't appeared since day 1, some that just recently appeared, and some that have disappeared.
    Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    They should put back the amount of kills in our profil though.

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  • SweetieBot - Lothranis
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    edited March 2013
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    SweetieBot give 10 points to Longknife - Harshlands.
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    Longknife - Harshlands now has a total of 50 points and is in 4th place.
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  • Zheii - Archosaur
    Zheii - Archosaur Posts: 2,732 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    That, literally, has nothing to do with the points I raised.

    Piishh, I know it doesn't it was just a general statement >:
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    SweetieBot - Lothranis wrote: »
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands awards 10 points to Longknife - Harshlands!
    Longknife - Harshlands now has a total of 50 points and is in 4th place.
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    'TF?
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    That, literally, has nothing to do with the points I raised.




    My post was edited, but I presented a ticket that was answered with (what I assume is) an accurate kill count, and yet my character does not, and has not appeared. Likewise, I know people that have been around since the beginning of DW and have never appeared, though they have (in a similar fashion) verified their kills.

    Actually, why am I retyping this for what probably amounts to the fourth time in this thread...


    You listed yourself as having 2000 though, I've heard multiple times that you need 3000-4000 to show up on the list at all. And yes I know there's some that don't have that count on the list, but I know people who've ticketed aswell and claim they've been told you need over 3k or 4k (I forget) to show on the list at all.
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    You listed yourself as having 2000 though, I've heard multiple times that you need 3000-4000 to show up on the list at all. And yes I know there's some that don't have that count on the list, but I know people who've ticketed aswell and claim they've been told you need over 3k or 4k (I forget) to show on the list at all.

    I ought to verify that, but I doubt that's the case, as Decus used to have <2000 and was on the rankings. The very fact that there are loosely-applied standards gives more credence to the fact that, as I said, the rankings are exclusive and not representative of what is actually the case; ergo, inaccurate.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    You listed yourself as having 2000 though, I've heard multiple times that you need 3000-4000 to show up on the list at all. And yes I know there's some that don't have that count on the list, but I know people who've ticketed aswell and claim they've been told you need over 3k or 4k (I forget) to show on the list at all.

    You need high 3k-low 4k to get on HL's listings. idk what Dreamweaver's threshold is though.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I ought to verify that, but I doubt that's the case, as Decus used to have <2000 and was on the rankings. The very fact that there are loosely-applied standards gives more credence to the fact that, as I said, the rankings are exclusive and not representative of what is actually the case; ergo, inaccurate.

    My best guess is that those who are on the list below that amount got on it BEFORE they started implementing thresholds, cause supposedly each server has a different threshold.
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Either way, you asked me how I thought them to be inaccurate, and I answered your question :p
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Either way, you asked me how I thought them to be inaccurate, and I answered your question :p

    Inaccurate, yes slighty.
    Broken, no.

    That was my point. Just a delay in the updates, nothing more really.
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  • darknessofmy
    darknessofmy Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Inaccurate, yes slighty.
    Broken, no.

    That was my point. Just a delay in the updates, nothing more really.

    PWI must have creative and unique worlds for players to explore.
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Inaccurate, yes slighty.
    Broken, no.

    That was my point. Just a delay in the updates, nothing more really.

    Broken was never my word, unless I used it unintentionally. Until I see proof of intentional exclusivity, I will continue to believe them to be inaccurate.
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  • Iyania - Heavens Tear
    Iyania - Heavens Tear Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    SweetieBot - Lothranis wrote: »
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands awards 10 points to Longknife - Harshlands!
    Longknife - Harshlands now has a total of 50 points and is in 4th place.
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands can't award any more points until tomorrow.

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    Wth? Ok let's let me try....

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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Iyania - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wth? Ok let's let me try....

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    No give them to Longknife!
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  • SweetieBot - Lothranis
    SweetieBot - Lothranis Posts: 18,978 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Iyania - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Sweetiebot give 10 points to OPKossy
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  • SyntherosX - Harshlands
    SyntherosX - Harshlands Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    That's not the case. Ask any old player who frequented the forums and bothered with it (I also fall into that category). Our rankings were only accurate for around the first year of the game. Especially when it comes to PvP rankings.

    After that it started getting extremely unreliable and inaccurate, even when the page itself wasn't down. You would often have things like the same person on it multiple times, people off of it that shouldn't be (and vice versa) and so on. You may personally not be someone who would be able to recognize it, but that doesn't change that it is what was going on.

    So, because of that, less and less people even care whether or not the page itself is up and running now. And that's why, much like Core displaying kill counts, we don't really have an answer for it and very few people care anymore.


    You are wrong forum mod. I've been playing for 4 years. "AKA old player" And it stopped working about 4 months ago and i just started submitting tickets to get my stats as they are no longer accessable from the site. Please do not give misinformation if you're not "hip" to how things work in this pwi community.

    Then a friend of mine told me the langauge switch and i've been able to get my stats that way.

    Sadly all you had to do to help with this thread was to let the poster know "all you have to do is switch the language at the top" and suddenly all your quips and all your misinformation about nobody caring is suddenly laid to waste.

    Who voted this fail a moderator anyhow wtf?

    I care about the rankings and know legions of people on the Harshlands who do as well. I can't stress it enough how disgusted I am right now with this moderators comments.

    Just throwing this out there. If the people in charge of the database for the website took their jobs a bit more seriously we probably wouldn't even see this issue happening. Future moderators please learn from this and do not speak without having some clue as to what is going on.

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  • BDoomed - Archosaur
    BDoomed - Archosaur Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    SyntherosX - Harshlands wrote: »
    You are wrong forum mod. I've been playing for 4 years. "AKA old player" And it stopped working about 4 months ago and i just started submitting tickets to get my stats as they are no longer accessable from the site. Please do not give misinformation if you're not "hip" to how things work in this pwi community.

    Then a friend of mine told me the langauge switch and i've been able to get my stats that way.

    Sadly all you had to do to help with this thread was to let the poster know "all you have to do is switch the language at the top" and suddenly all your quips and all your misinformation about nobody caring is suddenly laid to waste.

    Who voted this fail a moderator anyhow wtf?

    I care about the rankings and know legions of people on the Harshlands who do as well. I can't stress it enough how disgusted I am right now with this moderators comments.

    Just throwing this out there. If the people in charge of the database for the website took their jobs a bit more seriously we probably wouldn't even see this issue happening. Future moderators please learn from this and do not speak without having some clue as to what is going on.

    -Rage quits thread.

    couldnt have put it better lol. Been here for a long long time and yes the rankings were working properly for a long time, at times the updates failed to happen on the scheduled time but i could get a correct stat every 2 day or so, for now the german version works and not the english version... i fail to see why such moderators are even chosen to be one....
  • SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver
    SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    SyntherosX - Harshlands wrote: »
    You are wrong forum mod. I've been playing for 4 years. "AKA old player" And it stopped working about 4 months ago and i just started submitting tickets to get my stats as they are no longer accessable from the site. Please do not give misinformation if you're not "hip" to how things work in this pwi community.

    Then a friend of mine told me the langauge switch and i've been able to get my stats that way.

    Sadly all you had to do to help with this thread was to let the poster know "all you have to do is switch the language at the top" and suddenly all your quips and all your misinformation about nobody caring is suddenly laid to waste.

    Who voted this fail a moderator anyhow wtf?

    I care about the rankings and know legions of people on the Harshlands who do as well. I can't stress it enough how disgusted I am right now with this moderators comments.

    Just throwing this out there. If the people in charge of the database for the website took their jobs a bit more seriously we probably wouldn't even see this issue happening. Future moderators please learn from this and do not speak without having some clue as to what is going on.

    -Rage quits thread.

    How about getting all the information and looking at the facts at hand before going off about a mod in this way because as you will find out you will make yourself look stupid as you just have. Yes changing the language did help a number of months back but as it has been stated many times even this stopped working for a number of servers/people a few months back.

    The rankings page is bugged and has been for a very long time and I sorry but it seems you are not "hip" to the pwi community...
  • SyntherosX - Harshlands
    SyntherosX - Harshlands Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    How about getting all the information and looking at the facts at hand before going off about a mod in this way because as you will find out you will make yourself look stupid as you just have. Yes changing the language did help a number of months back but as it has been stated many times even this stopped working for a number of servers/people a few months back.

    The rankings page is bugged and has been for a very long time and I sorry but it seems you are not "hip" to the pwi community...

    It works right now want a youtube video walkthrough of how to do it? I'd love to assist you in your problem issue and concern. But you have moderators for that. Ones which think you don't care.

    Harshlands has been able to access it via the langauge switch method for months even before this bug "aka database fail" So you saying suddenly the "workaround" didnt' work I'd need difinitive proof otherwise your just trolling as this workaround was even mentioned in a ticket from gm's to myself only reason i didn't post it was the no posting ticket information rule.

    Facts :

    #1 People do care.
    #2 http://pwi.de.perfectworld.eu/ranking Works in all other langauges but english.
    #3 Has been down 4 months
    #4 Workaround is sufficient enough to the extent that work on the english rankings page is heavily delayed.
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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I also have been watching the rankings in alternative languages...
    I've been watching the stats continue to update accurately for several Lost City players in the top rankings.
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  • NigeIus - Dreamweaver
    NigeIus - Dreamweaver Posts: 399 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    it feels sooo good, even when u knew u wasnt the only one, seeing others saying the same i was saying.

    gm told me soo many times i was the only one that care about rankings than i almost beleive it.

    tys to the ppl of other servers that voiced their opinion in this thread.
    SyntherosX - Harshlands wrote: »
    It works right now want a youtube video walkthrough of how to do it? I'd love to assist you in your problem issue and concern. But you have moderators for that. Ones which think you don't care.

    Harshlands has been able to access it via the langauge switch method for months even before this bug "aka database fail" So you saying suddenly the "workaround" didnt' work I'd need difinitive proof otherwise your just trolling as this workaround was even mentioned in a ticket from gm's to myself only reason i didn't post it was the no posting ticket information rule.

    Facts :

    #1 People do care.
    #2 http://pwi.de.perfectworld.eu/ranking Works in all other langauges but english.
    #3 Has been down 4 months
    #4 Workaround is sufficient enough to the extent that work on the english rankings page is heavily delayed.

    yes i want a utube video, couse bms in dw server isnt working. even when u change ur language. so perhaps it works for u but for bms in dw it isnt. neither for archers or other class. so stop saying it works, it might work for some servers and some class.

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    edited March 2013
    NigeIus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sweetiebot give 10 points to Kniraven - Lost City
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  • Mr_Lapp - Lost City
    Mr_Lapp - Lost City Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I agree.
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    edited March 2013
    Mr_Lapp - Lost City wrote: »
    SweetieBot please award Kniraven - LostCity 10 points
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