I have given up on actually finding a squad for BH59.

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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Allisandre - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You should come check Sanctuary. At just about any given point in time, 5 squads are WCing for a barb and 3 squads are WCing for a cleric. The average wait time to get a squad started is 15-30 minutes.

    That happen to me before... I was lazy to duo so I tried to join as a tank in some random sot. They didn't want an archer tank... log my cleric got a few random nubs. Got my bh done and they are still wc'ing for a tank.
    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You assume pickiness is inherently a bad thing. If I've got one spot in squad and I get three sins and a wizard from WC, and I have a sin already, I'm picking the wiz, even if he wasn't first. Why not have variety?

    Just like buses with one space should pick up the white guy instead of the black guy thats next in line because there is already another black guy on the bus.
    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    But that wasn't my point anyway. You're saying that you get different people on your archer because people know you / your gear. How is that likely to be practical advice for the OP?

    Your advice is "play well and FL tanks if you can". And yet you said that my archer gets replies "because people know you" is not practical advice? I highly doubt anyone who replies to my archer can name more then one piece of his gear to its spec. If you are known as the guy who can make efficient non fail bh runs... its not going to take long to fill any runs.

    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I know, right, it must've cost so much to produce. It's not like any idiot could go to youtube and upload a video or something. I mean damn. XD

    Who is going to pay for the teles that I use... since I certainly won't need more then 1-2 to get enough replies to fill any and all bh squads that I want. And who is going to pay me to stand there for 30 minutes wc'ing for some bh tank... since I will probably be long done with the said bh in 30 minutes. But it does seems like some idiot forgot that stuff need to actually occur before he can see/view/buy the results.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Just like buses with one space should pick up the white guy instead of the black guy thats next in line because there is already another black guy on the bus.
    Implying that replying to WCs is comparable to a line? When I WC, I'm not having a contest to see who can type "sin" the fastest. I'm building a pool of eligible people I can pick from. "First" is not a valid reason for picking anyone IMO.

    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Your advice is "play well and FL tanks if you can". And yet you said that my archer gets replies "because people know you" is not practical advice? I highly doubt anyone who replies to my archer can name more then one piece of his gear to its spec. If you are known as the guy who can make efficient non fail bh runs... its not going to take long to fill any runs.
    I wouldn't call myself "known," not that I care about being known. And yeah I said FL tanks, but first you have to meet those tanks somewhere... in essence, that OP should find a few squads and build up a good FL to start off with later. What you're saying is that people already know your archer, so your archer has no trouble getting squads. Ok? Do you want a medal?
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Who is going to pay for the teles that I use... since I certainly won't need more then 1-2 to get enough replies to fill any and all bh squads that I want. And who is going to pay me to stand there for 30 minutes wc'ing for some bh tank... since I will probably be long done with the said bh in 30 minutes. But it does seems like some idiot forgot that stuff need to actually occur before he can see/view/buy the results.
    ...y'know what, forget what I said about the WCing video. We need to make a documentary. It'll be called "The Plight of Kiyoshi," and it'll be set to some really heartrending music like the ones they have on those save-the-animals commercials, with you on camera talking about how hard it is to be you.

    Seriously. We'll make millions.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Implying that replying to WCs is comparable to a line? When I WC, I'm not having a contest to see who can type "sin" the fastest. I'm building a pool of eligible people I can pick from. "First" is not a valid reason for picking anyone IMO.

    Yes... it must take so much longer to type in wiz instead of sin.

    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I wouldn't call myself "known," not that I care about being known. And yeah I said FL tanks, but first you have to meet those tanks somewhere... in essence, that OP should find a few squads and build up a good FL to start off with later. What you're saying is that people already know your archer, so your archer has no trouble getting squads. Ok? Do you want a medal?

    How do you think those people know my archer... maybe its cause they ran with me before.

    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ...y'know what, forget what I said about the WCing video. We need to make a documentary. It'll be called "The Plight of Kiyoshi," and it'll be set to some really heartrending music like the ones they have on those save-the-animals commercials, with you on camera talking about how hard it is to be you.

    Seriously. We'll make millions.

    This is the best you got... especially after being made to look like an idiot many times.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf
  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes... it must take so much longer to type in wiz instead of sin.
    If a wiz comes in first I'm not gonna pick him based on that either. Being first makes no difference whatsoever. I choose my DDs based on squad variety and the relative rarity of the class. In the lack of all other factors, I'll take a wiz over a sin any day even if I don't already have a sin, because sins are the most common class these days and I long ago got tired of being in squads with 3-4 of them. A lot of squads require things like sins and BMs because they're too stupid to play the damn instance without BP or HF, so if I can help a wizard or archer or veno because they might be having trouble finding squads, then hell yes I'll pick them over xXxLOLDAGGERxXx who happened to be first.

    Rest of your post seems like pretty stupid epeen stuff, won't reply to that.
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  • Hannsel - Dreamweaver
    Hannsel - Dreamweaver Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You assume pickiness is inherently a bad thing. If I've got one spot in squad and I get three sins and a wizard from WC, and I have a sin already, I'm picking the wiz, even if he wasn't first. Why not have variety?
    for BH79 and lower, cleric+tank+any four players will suffice. I haven't done a run where I said ''darn, I wished we had xxx class''
    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If a wiz comes in first I'm not gonna pick him based on that either. Being first makes no difference whatsoever. I choose my DDs based on squad variety and the relative rarity of the class. In the lack of all other factors, I'll take a wiz over a sin any day even if I don't already have a sin, because sins are the most common class these days and I long ago got tired of being in squads with 3-4 of them. A lot of squads require things like sins and BMs because they're too stupid to play the damn instance without BP or HF, so if I can help a wizard or archer or veno because they might be having trouble finding squads, then hell yes I'll pick them over xXxLOLDAGGERxXx who happened to be first.

    Rest of your post seems like pretty stupid epeen stuff, won't reply to that.
    seems really petty, unless a class is absolutely needed i wouldn't waste time looking for a wiz/veno whatever while another toon nearby needs BH. being a sin/bm doesn't mean you're noob who can't play w/o bp/hf
  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Hannsel - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    for BH79 and lower, cleric+tank+any four players will suffice. I haven't done a run where I said ''darn, I wished we had xxx class''

    seems really petty, unless a class is absolutely needed i wouldn't waste time looking for a wiz/veno whatever while another toon nearby needs BH. being a sin/bm doesn't mean you're noob who can't play w/o bp/hf
    I'm not gonna deny people based on class. I'm saying that if three sins and a veno PM me and I have only one spot and I have a sin already, I'm going to take the veno because of squad variety and because she's probably been desperate for a squad forever. If I only get PMs from sins, of course I'll take a sin. Taking someone is better than taking no one. :P

    And I would completely agree that requiring specific classes is ridiculous. That's not what I choose based on.
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  • Hannsel - Dreamweaver
    Hannsel - Dreamweaver Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ... I'm saying that if three sins and a veno PM me and I have only one spot and I have a sin already, I'm going to take the veno because of squad variety and because she's probably been desperate for a squad forever. ...
    very altruistic b:chuckle. for me the first five PMs get invite, really simple and fair for everyone.
  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    This pretty much describes me as well. >_> But hey, there are perks to having an endgame tank barb and this is one of 'em.


    You're too late, fifty million people PM'd me and the world is now devoid of cookies entirely. D:

    But... but.. b:cry it was my birthday on 24th.. no cookie for a cat? b:sad

    Tank endgame barbs do rock. Pull the whole instance, wipe mobs with armageddon, kill boss with 1 spark and good debuff combo and that's it b:victory
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Eh. Maybe I should look at it as a way to not have to spend nearly as much time soloing FCC for myself.

    In 2008, I played this game with friends, to have fun. They quit in 2009, I essentially soloed for 6 months, got frustrated on a quest, and quit.

    Came back, joined a large faction, got a genie, rolled a few more characters, and started leveling by doing BH's instead of quests/grinding. This was probably the most fun time of the game for me. Mold and TT gear was useful, wanted, respected, and fun. TT70 gear was awesome from level 70 to 90.

    I just see this all as gone now, which sucks. I get so bored doing BH100, Delta and Warsong so often. NW was a nice mixup at first, and now it's just a competition to see who can baselock everyone else first.

    Gamma was extremely fun, I have done it on my Barb (once), Cleric, and if it's still run, my Wizard.

    Quests were a lot of fun when it was worth it to do them. You would meet people, hang out with them for hours sometimes, log off, come back the next day, and the same people were around again. You didn't have to have a faction to know people.

    Now I find myself in 2 non-TW factions, and 3 TW factoins, some of which I've now been in for multiple years, and I am constantly finding the same small group of people in all 5 of them. XD
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • Selak - Dreamweaver
    Selak - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Sarrafeline,

    You might as well bang your head on the wall if you want change like this.
    Quoted from a Link to PWI's CMs job description.

    "To encourage a community of affluent players."

    They want you to spend as much real world coin as possible as fast as possible.
    So any play that encourages you to earn something with effort, will not be as useful to them as power levelling Rich players.

    b:sad
    There are old Warriors, and bold Warriors,
    but there are very few old bold Warriors. b:chuckle
  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    If I run a BH on my alts I make my own squad......with NO high leveled help. I refuse to. Sure I'll get a bad squad or two from time to time, but its just no fun with anyone killing for you. I don't power level any of my toons, I want to learn them. It's actually not that hard to find players for BH51+ on RT, at least for me anyway. Maybe I get on at the right time of day? Meh.
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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Selak - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sarrafeline,

    You might as well bang your head on the wall if you want change like this.
    Quoted from a Link to PWI's CMs job description.

    "To encourage a community of affluent players."

    They want you to spend as much real world coin as possible as fast as possible.
    So any play that encourages you to earn something with effort, will not be as useful to them as power levelling Rich players.

    b:sad
    I wouldn't trust CM job descriptions alone for this kind of argument. In practice, what the CM does is mostly damage control and placation of the player base (as our last CM proved so very well).

    BUT... I just looked at the PWE employment page and they also have a "senior" CM position which doesn't have that line. In fact, it stats among the job duties:
    * Monitor discussion forums and other communication media to identify player needs.

    * Be an advocate for the player internally.

    Now, which one is v4liance, I wonder? A regular CM or a senior CM? o.o
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Yes, I'm still a stubborn holdout in favor of the old game. Haters gonna hate. ;]

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  • Selak - Dreamweaver
    Selak - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Just a thought,

    Senior managers usually refers to someone who has secondary managers reporting to them, they have large numbers of similar departments outputs to use for data analysis to improve overall productivity for everyone.

    V4L is most likely the second type who must enforce company policy, and act as a liaison between the players, employees and volunteers who work for nothing, also the company's needs.

    But I may be wrong, He may control all the CM's for all PWI's different games forums.
    There are old Warriors, and bold Warriors,
    but there are very few old bold Warriors. b:chuckle
  • lizli
    lizli Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I never post anything on these forums positive or negative, but after seeing the continued absurdness of the continuing argument between the 2 HT server players, I have to say that HT server hasn't changed 1 bit since I left it years ago; so glad I left that server in the dust when I did. b:bye


    b:victory

    b:laugh

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