Flag Carrier Speed...

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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Aquilez - Sanctuary wrote: »
    but its 2 sparks to use stormrage b:shocked

    edit: does frost arrow work too? tbh after i started doing rb to lvl i dont think i used it yet

    The only reason to use Stormrage is if they have anti stun up (or you anticipate them to use anti stun during your channel).

    The chi cost isn't too much of an issue I think as I tend to have a lot more chi in NW than in TW. Once you remove the ability to holypath the -80% speed debuff from Demon Stormrage is decent since it stacks with the -50% speed debuff from carrying the flag. It's pretty difficult for most people to move with a -130% speed debuff.

    Still I'd only use if they have an anti stun on. Else it's easier to use stun -> aim low. Assuming you can't kill the carrier on your own you have to buy some time for your squad to help kill.
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You would maybe... just maybe realize that you can level your apo skill level pass what was the limit from 3-4 years ago. And hopefully one would you might even stumbble upon the morai special mats thats littered across half of morai... and dig it. Walk (or even fly) your *** down to blighted garden... and make the damned attack charm that ignores def level upon use.

    huh?
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  • ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver
    ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    From your pervious posts regarding nerfing carrier's defense and what not... its pretty clear that you and your buddies have trouble killing and stopping r9 carriers. And now you claim that you can kill "R9s, even ones with way higher refines". All in all you can kill r9s just fine, but not when they have the flag. In fact, it doesn't seems like you are any sucessiful at even stopping/slowing r9 carriers. If you are so successful at killing r9s... why can't you stop them... last time I check dead r9s don't move or carry flags. Unless of course you are killing motionless r9s.

    And for god's sake... if you guys would spend a bit less time complaining about r9 this r9 that... and actually get out and play the game. You would maybe... just maybe realize that you can level your apo skill level pass what was the limit from 3-4 years ago. And hopefully one would you might even stumbble upon the morai special mats thats littered across half of morai... and dig it. Walk (or even fly) your *** down to blighted garden... and make the damned attack charm that ignores def level upon use.

    there is bigdifference between being R9 and R9RR+12 jaded with purify weapon. so yes show me how you actually stop someone geared like that with ur pro dual blades
  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    walk (or even fly) your *** down to blighted garden... and make the damned attack charm that ignores def level upon use.

    Snip

    Que??? 0.o

    K u win, I'm ignorant. Explain this one
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  • Aquilez - Sanctuary
    Aquilez - Sanctuary Posts: 240 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    looks like finally there is a reason to learn demon stormrage b:laugh

    and please explain about that atack charm
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    You guys get trolled so easily....
  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    You guys get trolled so easily....

    There is no bypass defense levels attack charm? :'(
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  • SmurfJegeren - Dreamweaver
    SmurfJegeren - Dreamweaver Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The HP buff for flag I find very balancing, and it lets more people join in on the fun as, if lucky, they can actually be a bit tanky vs. players of their own strength. Its also not game breaking, myself being a mix of G16/G15 and what not(no def levels yet). Id expect myself to be a quick kill to most G16/R9 archers, and I know Psys and wizzies hurt me a bunch.

    As an example, when running the flag at a relatively slow pace, with my team-mates backing me up. We got jumped by an array of different enemies, and even tho two of those team mates was R9rr they barely managed to keep the other team from killing me, and I only had 1.2k HP left out of 24k. Killing a R9rr seems to mostly keep them in the same spot till you can focus fire them. It requires alot of team work, but when a HA peep with 1 def level can hold off a notorious R9rr wizzie for long enough that the wizzie ends up bailing, then a small team should be able to take em out entirely. I dun appreciate meeting R9rr on the field, simply cause they are that "OP" compared to all other gear out there, but its more about organizing when it comes to take them down.

    Btw: Ive noticed that when using Parasitic Nova, the seal have kept on after purify, is this intended?
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    There is no bypass defense levels attack charm? :'(

    I doubt the majority would believe me if I explain it here anyways. For those who cares... come on HT in ~9 hours (I am at work right now) and I'll link it on world chat. Maybe give me a few if there is traffic or I decided to grab something to eat before getting on. The charm is quite expensive to use... but considering it negates 3.5 bil worth of jades... 10k cost extra per shot isn't that big of a deal. Feel free to call me out (shame me) on wc if I don't link.
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  • Iyania - Heavens Tear
    Iyania - Heavens Tear Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I doubt the majority would believe me if I explain it here anyways. For those who cares... come on HT in ~9 hours (I am at work right now) and I'll link it on world chat. Maybe give me a few if there is traffic or I decided to grab something to eat before getting on. The charm is quite expensive to use... but considering it negates 3.5 bil worth of jades... 10k cost extra per shot isn't that big of a deal. Feel free to call me out (shame me) on wc if I don't link.

    I have to see this b:laugh
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  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Mr_Swiss - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Your full of sht. I'm full 2nd cast R9, refined to +8 on my gear, no shards, wep refined to +11. Got +10 Cube neck, +10 sky cover, +10 Matchless wings with 4 primevals and every demon barb skill book, 27k hp. I get stopped easily by other R9 toons, even with me using pots. Once you have people stunning back to back, and multiple mage or archers hitting you, it's a wrap. Your going down. Multiple stun, multiple HF, your not lasting. jumping does not help one bit. Once someone has you tabbed, whether you jump or swim, if a shot can reach you or a stun, you can be taken down if other toons are in the area. Where on any map do you run that no one goes. Your comment is fubar.


    Rude start huh?

    In very rare maps these damn r9s are actually after the flag, they camp out near middle spawn west gate PKing. Shadow binder powder and violent triumph get me almost to capture point with a buff protecting me from movement speed debuffs. If they were more clever they'd at least charger after me or stand waiting. They don't.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I doubt the majority would believe me if I explain it here anyways. For those who cares... come on HT in ~9 hours (I am at work right now) and I'll link it on world chat. Maybe give me a few if there is traffic or I decided to grab something to eat before getting on. The charm is quite expensive to use... but considering it negates 3.5 bil worth of jades... 10k cost extra per shot isn't that big of a deal. Feel free to call me out (shame me) on wc if I don't link.

    This was BS right?
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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This was BS right?

    I didn't actually check but I assume it is BS.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Iyania - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    We're the best. Who needs HF when Kiyo can just hit them for 10k a hit with his dual blades? waste of 2 sparks.
    those that think they are best, are those ignorant of someone better out there :o
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  • Toomaga - Heavens Tear
    Toomaga - Heavens Tear Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I don't remember seeing those attack charms in Morai, but I can double check later on when I get home.
  • Iyania - Heavens Tear
    Iyania - Heavens Tear Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    those that think they are best, are those ignorant of someone better out there :o

    Those who think themselves so wise take others and themselves too seriously :)
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  • Shikiyu - Heavens Tear
    Shikiyu - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I killed someone before when they where digging the flag. Getting stun automatically stop the flag digging lol. It's not my fault if i can hit far away and camp in stealth mode lol.

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