wtb r9r2 archers so bad

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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    http://pwcalc.com/37cdcae80e24fe94 = 69%

    +6% on 1 ring from new neck & tome
    +4% on other from 2x 1% on both rings
    +3% from triple +1%crit neck engrave

    still no gof :(

    1% more crit from base arrows
    2% more crit for white wings


    The problem is that crit has diminishing returns unlike the increasing return on APS / Channel. It's something flashy to show off but it won't be a fundamental change to game balance like purify spell or zerk crit metal skills.
    GoF bow... not even conceivable from my PoV b:surrender
    It's the exact same concept as a R999 seeker but without the HA and 40 free defense levels.
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Play smart. I beat r999 wizards and bms already with my g16 bow

    okay fleuri b:bye
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  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    already told yall that archers gonna suck 1v1 now b:laugh

    you will still be useful in group pk/tw due to low cost of attack and being able to have multiple attackers vs single target, but gl 1v1 equal gears. b:thanks
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited December 2012
    all i'm getting from this is "i don't know how to play". b:sweat
  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    prof wrote: »
    all i'm getting from this is "i don't know how to play". b:sweat

    purge R9R2 mystic -> quickshot -> they expel (you have blaze lit btw) -> their weapon procs -> LOLOLOLOL catch me if you can
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  • FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    LOL DO YOU KNOW HOW PURGE PROC WORKS? The friken thing doesn't even proc if you use an attack which carries a debuff on

    What, really? Now that's interesting.
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  • NigeIus - Dreamweaver
    NigeIus - Dreamweaver Posts: 399 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    are u fking srious?????i cant beleive i just read that archers are weak...really...u should learn to play ur class b4 saying something like this...let me guess....u started as a sin and then u realized that sins in tw arent that good, then u made an archer, as u fced all day just to hit 101 and get r9, u didnt stop to learn ur class.

    archers arent weak at all, archers counters almost any class,

    yes some seekers are broken, but u know what? once u purge a seeker he is killable. and let me c something............... o yes archers r9 has purge in bow.
    archers range>seekers, if seeker decide go ranger against an archer then u should lough and wipe his *** wiht bv....metal skills??he debuffed u????pfffff u can spark...not enough...use awaken...not enough use white tea!!!what the hell is this!!!!????archers are op, best kitable class......dont stand there as a noob auto hitting u should learn when to kite and how to do it. thats the key to become a good archer.
    archers= masters of kiting, making u think he/she is kiting and then boom!!killed u when he/she was retreating.

    u know why venos r9 jods are good? couse they venos can purge...let me see something...ooo yeah archers can purge too.

    cant beleive u are qqing about archers weapon.........i really cant beleive it.

    some1 close this thread, it has no sense at all.
  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    prof wrote: »
    all i'm getting from this is "i don't know how to play". b:sweat

    the difference b/w a good archer and an amazing archer is much smaller then good wiz and amazing wiz, even if you are an amazing archer there is really little you can do to have a better output then a player of 'average' ability. class is limited.
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  • IHaxJoo - Raging Tide
    IHaxJoo - Raging Tide Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    lol boogie get out. its gonna make lazy seekers like me work extra hard in TW b:cry
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    are u fking srious?????i cant beleive i just read that archers are weak...really...u should learn to play ur class b4 saying something like this...let me guess....u started as a sin and then u realized that sins in tw arent that good, then u made an archer, as u fced all day just to hit 101 and get r9, u didnt stop to learn ur class.

    archers arent weak at all, archers counters almost any class,

    yes some seekers are broken, but u know what? once u purge a seeker he is killable. and let me c something............... o yes archers r9 has purge in bow.
    archers range>seekers, if seeker decide go ranger against an archer then u should lough and wipe his *** wiht bv....metal skills??he debuffed u????pfffff u can spark...not enough...use awaken...not enough use white tea!!!what the hell is this!!!!????archers are op, best kitable class......dont stand there as a noob auto hitting u should learn when to kite and how to do it. thats the key to become a good archer.
    archers= masters of kiting, making u think he/she is kiting and then boom!!killed u when he/she was retreating.

    u know why venos r9 jods are good? couse they venos can purge...let me see something...ooo yeah archers can purge too.

    cant beleive u are qqing about archers weapon.........i really cant beleive it.

    some1 close this thread, it has no sense at all.


    loooool troll post but ill respond anyway. veno josd are good because their R9r2 pataka has purify on it and they have purge. Archers likewise needs GoF and purge on their R9R2 bows

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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited December 2012
    purge R9R2 mystic -> quickshot -> they expel (you have blaze lit btw) -> their weapon procs -> LOLOLOLOL catch me if you can

    yes, I know how purify works. this doesn't disprove how terrible you are, however.
    the difference b/w a good archer and an amazing archer is much smaller then good wiz and amazing wiz, even if you are an amazing archer there is really little you can do to have a better output then a player of 'average' ability. class is limited.

    as there's isn't a single good mages in pwi, i wish to know where you find these "amazing" ones
  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    prof wrote: »
    yes, I know how purify works. this doesn't disprove how terrible you are, however.

    im terrible because r9r2 archers are so underpoewred if i had gof bow id own everyone
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  • NigeIus - Dreamweaver
    NigeIus - Dreamweaver Posts: 399 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    u know my wife is r9 archer, not jods, she is a mix of dot and vit stones. she is +11 weapon, +10 armors/rings/neck. i am r9 +10bm jods and weapon +12.........yet i know i can kill her if i get a lucky hit but u know what? if she purges me i am dead, couse she will still ahve her buffs and i wont, she will only need to kite enough time to find the oportunity to stun me+freeze and then do some dmg to kill me.........

    i guess u never listened about how to calculate the hp of ur target in a 1 vs 1, how to poke a person till his hp is around 51% and then go and kill him......u need more practice in 1 vs 1. archers are awsome.
  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    i wanted to engrave GoF on my R9r2 firmament bow but seriously wtf you just keep the crappy purge from before. Seriously i've had this proc for 2 years now I WANT A CHANGE

    then get a warsoul bow for mres debuff proc b:chuckle
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    u know my wife is r9 archer, not jods, she is a mix of dot and vit stones. she is +11 weapon, +10 armors/rings/neck. i am r9 +10bm jods and weapon +12.........yet i know i can kill her if i get a lucky hit but u know what? if she purges me i am dead, couse she will still ahve her buffs and i wont, she will only need to kite enough time to find the oportunity to stun me+freeze and then do some dmg to kill me.........

    i guess u never listened about how to calculate the hp of ur target in a 1 vs 1, how to poke a person till his hp is around 51% and then go and kill him......u need more practice in 1 vs 1. archers are awsome.

    cahrm bypass on r9r2 josd without gof? lol good joke brah
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  • Horosho - Lost City
    Horosho - Lost City Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Want a good archer playstyle go watch Trancend's videos b:bye
    Best archer imo.
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  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    okay fleuri b:bye

    fleuri?

    I was being serious. R999 seems more OP for wizards and barbs and such, but before people had r999, with regular r9 people always said archers were the most op, balanced out some now.

    You seem like the type of person that has always had great gear compared to others, and honestly, for most that results in overconfidence and lack of general strategy towards comparable foes. Try fighting undergeared and you'll get betterb:cute
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    fleuri?

    I was being serious. R999 seems more OP for wizards and barbs and such, but before people had r999, with regular r9 people always said archers were the most op, balanced out some now.

    You seem like the type of person that has always had great gear compared to others, and honestly, for most that results in overconfidence and lack of general strategy towards comparable foes. Try fighting undergeared and you'll get betterb:cute

    okay let me get a G16 +10 bow to kill a R9R2 mystic with purify proc. Your post is more legit than my thread.
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited December 2012
    you make me sad for pve servers, and i retract to my original statement
    prof wrote: »
    your videos have explained to me fully why you could possibly think an archer is weak

    b:byeenjoy being terrible
  • Zsw - Dreamweaver
    Zsw - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    You're easily doing 6k autos on your crits against a fully jaded archer, thats 2 hits to tick a charm, which I'd say is a pretty big improvement from before third cast.
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    You're easily doing 6k autos on your crits against a fully jaded archer, thats 2 hits to tick a charm, which I'd say is a pretty big improvement from before third cast.

    all other classes can one shot b:cryb:cry i want to score higher on the damage rankings
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  • Horosho - Lost City
    Horosho - Lost City Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    All of u unskilled high geared player imo ._.
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  • Mooooooooo - Lost City
    Mooooooooo - Lost City Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Purify is only OP in group fights where lots of noobs are hitting you. It's not at all reliable (yes it helps but many times when you don't need it) in 1v1s against people with similar gear. The proc rate is like around 8%.

    Archers are pretty squishy even with full 3rd cast josds, but still against most arcanes they can crit ~6k with auto attack after a purge, which is still quite a bit of damage especially since they are a ranged class that can still hit you a few more times even if purify procs and you start running.
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  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    okay let me get a G16 +10 bow to kill a R9R2 mystic with purify proc. Your post is more legit than my thread.

    Havent tried mystic yet, mystics are already op with speed of heals unfortunately.

    Also archers are not designed to 1 shot, we are designed to deal out many shots quickly from a distance to take targets down. Barbs can arma for a 1 shot, wizards venos clerics psys can nuke, but those take time to cast, and during that you can stun them, or put up a shell to reduce 80% damage.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The amount of people replying to this thread as if it isn't a troll thread...damnnnnnn...
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'd totally get R9 on my archer if it could be recast to get GoF. b:dirty

    I like breaking Barb's hearts by going invincible when they cast Arma. Waste of two sparks, plus the tears is delicious.
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The amount of people replying to this thread as if it isn't a troll thread...damnnnnnn...

    seriously i made a barb because how bad archers are
    I'd totally get R9 on my archer if it could be recast to get GoF. b:dirty

    I like breaking Barb's hearts by going invincible when they cast Arma. Waste of two sparks, plus the tears is delicious.

    loool even with gof i doubt archers can kill r9r2 barbs
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  • Horosho - Lost City
    Horosho - Lost City Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    seriously i made a barb because how bad archers are



    loool even with gof i doubt archers can kill r9r2 barbs

    You kidding right? -_-
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  • Mooooooooo - Lost City
    Mooooooooo - Lost City Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    seriously i made a barb because how bad archers are



    loool even with gof i doubt archers can kill r9r2 barbs

    of course not lol. only bm, wiz, and maybe barb can kill barbs lol.
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    of course not lol. only bm, wiz, and maybe barb can kill barbs lol.

    ye all of those classes have gof
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