wtb r9r2 archers so bad

Facerolled - Raging Tide

seriously archers need a buff.

R9r2 casters can get 700+ mag
R9r2 BMs seekers Barbs have GoF

R9r2 archers can only achieve around 650 dex!!!

Seriously r9r2 archers need gof to compensate for lack of damage. We lack CC skills, damage-boosting-attribute and don't even have a proc that boosts our damage seriously.

Adding insult to injury we also have to put up with a useless self buff. Seriously archers need a different crit rate self buff or maybe permanent +range (maybe 10 at level 10 and 14 for sage 12 for demon) self buff that's casted like WoP currently is. I mean, that buff gets overwritten by holy path all the time wtb qq.

seriously pwi stop **** archers over and make us the joke of a class. I'm R9r2 and I'm failing to kill anyone it shouldnt happen

Maelael - Heavens Tear

Didn't make a QQ post about this last week?

+10 Troll points if not.

Facerolled - Raging Tide

Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Didn't make a QQ post about this last week?

+10 Troll points if not.

didnt habe r9r2 last week to see how **** it was b:shocked

Haila - Sanctuary

Archers are weak b:pleased

RankNine - Momaganon

beside that fact that your trolling isnt funny at all, TROLOLO at your archer only having 650 dex.

Horosho - Lost City

Haila - Sanctuary wrote: »

Archers are weak b:pleased

If they are weak tell me why most archers kills barbs in 3 second? C;

Geckofreak - Sanctuary

Honestly, r999 archer isn't weak. The attack levels are insane, and can, with new tome, get over 70% crit base, which with galavanic aura, will allow for max 95% crit rate, and then can drop a barrage from extra distance, doing huge attack level damage + barrage damage + almost all crits, for 9 attacks.

Haila - Sanctuary

Horosho - Lost City wrote: »

If they are weak tell me why most archers kills barbs in 3 second? C;

hahaha barbs can kill archers in 2 secs b:pleased

Facerolled - Raging Tide

Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »

Honestly, r999 archer isn't weak. The attack levels are insane, and can, with new tome, get over 70% crit base, which with galavanic aura, will allow for max 95% crit rate, and then can drop a barrage from extra distance, doing huge attack level damage + barrage damage + almost all crits, for 9 attacks.

then you have no chi = dead

Horosho - Lost City

Haila - Sanctuary wrote: »

hahaha barbs can kill archers in 2 secs b:pleased

Armageddon doesn't require any skill stop being a BR b:bye

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

You have some good points but there are other things to consider:

-100 dex bonus from R999 LA armor gives 5% more crit which is a more noticeable benefit in my opinion than the mres you get with AA or the pdef from HA.

-With all AA armor getting purify weapons control skills across the board have become less effective. The game is now going to be more about dealing damage than control. Archers are going to be the best counter to the AA classes now.

-The double refine on the R9r ring helps archers the most since archers can get the full benefit from it.


The biggest issue I have though is with Seekers. They are a HA ranged class with zerk crit metal skills and BP. They don't even have a close range damage reduction. WTF is with that? Seeker now have all their skills at long range and they still get BP / zerk, even on metal skills. It's ridiculous.

Horosho - Lost City

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

You have some good points but there are other things to consider:

-100 dex bonus from R999 LA armor gives 5% more crit which is a more noticeable benefit in my opinion than the mres you get with AA or the pdef from HA.

-With all AA armor getting purify weapons control skills across the board have become less effective. The game is now going to be more about dealing damage than control. Archers are going to be the best counter to the AA classes now.

-The double refine on the R9r ring helps archers the most since archers can get the full benefit from it.


The biggest issue I have though is with Seekers. They are a HA ranged class with zerk crit metal skills and BP. They don't even have a close range damage reduction. WTF is with that? Seeker now have all their skills at long range and they still get BP / zerk, even on metal skills. It's ridiculous.

Seekers are not hard nor easy.. Just gotta time your HP decr right & metal attacks c_c

Veneir - Dreamweaver

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=18314181&postcount=32
Yeah archers are totally UP. xD *facedesk*
On another note, +1 to Asty

Facerolled - Raging Tide

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

-With all AA armor getting purify weapons control skills across the board have become less effective. The game is now going to be more about dealing damage than control. Archers are going to be the best counter to the AA classes now.

wts no seekers zerk crit gemini = dead archers dont have gof cant one hit r9r2 josd aa still archers need gof r9r2 bow

prof

your videos have explained to me fully why you could possibly think an archer is weak

FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary

Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »

... with new tome, get over 70% crit base, which with galavanic aura, will allow for max 95% crit rate

Are you drunk or simply exaggerating?

http://pwcalc.com/c0f1e3902e37af29

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

can seekers have more range stun skills like archers so we can like.. .stun lock them from far i mean like hey its only fair right

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Horosho - Lost City wrote: »

Seekers are not hard nor easy.. Just gotta time your HP decr right & metal attacks c_c

Seeker metal attacks are much better than archer ones and theirs zerk. Have you been hit 20k from totally random seeker zerk crits? It's like giving wiz a zerk wand. It's so very broken.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

can seekers have more range stun skills like archers so we can like.. .stun lock them from far i mean like hey its only fair right

One stun does not a "stun lock" make. Even veno stun is better these days with 3sec lucky scarab + pet stun + nova. The game isn't even about stun much any more... its about dealing damage.

Facerolled - Raging Tide

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Seeker metal attacks are much better than archer ones and theirs zerk. Have you been hit 20k from totally random seeker zerk crits? It's like giving wiz a zerk wand. It's so very broken.

exactly it's imba, to balance it archers need gof bows to compete

FluffyRoar - Heavens Tear

Boogie be trollin'.

Edit: Not sure why I quoted Ast for that.

FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Seeker metal attacks are much better than archer ones and theirs zerk. Have you been hit 20k from totally random seeker zerk crits? It's like giving wiz a zerk wand. It's so very broken.

Seekers damage were horrible before they got zerk magic skills. They needed a buff, but I do agree zerk on magic skills was a little to much of a buff...

FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary

Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »

exactly it's imba, to balance it archers need gof bows to compete

oh jesus, b:sweat

Facerolled - Raging Tide

FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Are you drunk or simply exaggerating?

http://pwcalc.com/c0f1e3902e37af29

http://pwcalc.com/37cdcae80e24fe94 = 69%

+6% on 1 ring from new neck & tome
+4% on other from 2x 1% on both rings
+3% from triple +1%crit neck engrave

still no gof

Horosho - Lost City

Archer and GoF to damn op c-c with demon quickshot

FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary

Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »

http://pwcalc.com/37cdcae80e24fe94 = 69%

+6% on 1 ring from new neck & tome
+4% on other from 2x 1% on both rings
+3% from triple +1%crit neck engrave

still no gof

Like you would strive to get crit engraves on all of them, please b:surrender

Hexalot - Dreamweaver

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

can seekers have more range stun skills like archers so we can like.. .stun lock them from far i mean like hey its only fair right

Sage Heart Seeker... 8 second immobilize (demon 10 sec). Range... 28 m

Sage QPQ... 3 second silence. Range... 28 m

Sage void step... 4 second stun. Range... 38 m.


Now we can only wish for an upgrade on our anti-stun skills. b:angry

Facerolled - Raging Tide

FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Like you would strive to get crit engraves on all of them, please b:surrender

i wanted to engrave GoF on my R9r2 firmament bow but seriously wtf you just keep the crappy purge from before. Seriously i've had this proc for 2 years now I WANT A CHANGE

prof

Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »

i wanted to engrave GoF on my R9r2 firmament bow but seriously wtf you just keep the crappy purge from before. Seriously i've had this proc for 2 years now I WANT A CHANGE

spirit blackhole: the most overpowered effect you can get on any weapon b:shutup

Geckofreak - Sanctuary

Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »

then you have no chi = dead

Play smart. I beat r999 wizards and bms already with my g16 bow. Tons of these +12 r9 josd archers forget the fact that archers are squishiest solo class in the game, having both low phys and low mag defense, and are determined to be tankier then barbs. It doesn't work like that. Archers trade surviability for killing power. Even with only like 650 dex, you still hit harder then any other phys damage class. Just play your role, and youll do fine.

My galvanic barrage was just to say that you aren't weak. Try doing that at gate towers in tw, no one can leave gate other then barbs b:laugh

Facerolled - Raging Tide

prof wrote: »

spirit blackhole: the most overpowered effect you can get on any weapon b:shutup

LOL DO YOU KNOW HOW PURGE PROC WORKS? The friken thing doesn't even proc if you use an attack which carries a debuff on the opponent.

Seeker's GoF sword works on every skill. Archers need that.

FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary

Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »

i wanted to engrave GoF on my R9r2 firmament bow but seriously wtf you just keep the crappy purge from before. Seriously i've had this proc for 2 years now I WANT A CHANGE

GoF bow... not even conceivable from my PoV b:surrender