Archer vs Archer (in a 1v1)

Horosho - Lost City
Horosho - Lost City Posts: 305 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Archer
Imo it doesnt require any skill to beat a equal geared ea in a 1v1... Just who ever is the luckyest on quickshot? >_<
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  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    whomever misses less wins!

    Also, i find in an archer v archer fight, sage to be more deadly. take aim from max range, the demon is helpless.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Also, i find in an archer v archer fight, sage to be more deadly. take aim from max range, the demon is helpless.

    Oh for god's sake... not this again. Some people are born idiots... some people are just wannabe idiots.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »
    whomever misses less wins!

    Also, i find in an archer v archer fight, sage to be more deadly. take aim from max range, the demon is helpless.

    Can't the demon just... you know... move forward two steps and stun... or use grace to dodge... or use shell to laugh at the hit.... or holy path/leap back enough that the skill interrupts (or forward to force damage penalty).... or use condor... etc etc?
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  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Archer v archer depends on who the RNG happens to benefit more in regards to procs for crit and procs for evasion dodge.

    Stupidly high crit rates and evasion numbers (I am looking at you condor) make it even more ridiculous.

    Demon QS is basically GG. Similarly if someone manages to get stunned its basically GG.

    It ends up mostly being antistun and luck. Very boring.

    On topic: Yes, Horosho you are right.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    Oh yeah did forget the topic.

    Yeah Archer vs Archer is a battle of gear difference and luck moreso than skill. Archers in general are luck reliant, honestly.

    Everyone wants a QS proc, getting stunned is basically game over, purge proc on R9 is one of those gambles you pray for while hoping it doesn't hit you, crit wars from the crit rates, stupid high evasion thanks to condor, etc. Whoever gets the stun/purge/qs proc/luck with evasion wins in most cases where there's no major gear gap and neither player is a complete idiot.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    OPKossy wrote: »
    Can't the demon just... you know... move forward two steps and stun... or use grace to dodge... or use shell to laugh at the hit.... or holy path/leap back enough that the skill interrupts (or forward to force damage penalty).... or use condor... etc etc?

    Thats just way too complicated. Now what you gotta do when sage take aim you at 34 meters is to leep 20 meters to the right (or left)... hence making the total distance between the two to be 39.5. The sage archer would then proceed to make a 30 degreee turn from his organial orientation and move 3.5 toward you to get in to his passive range of 34. With that you would counter leap back to your organial location... thus making the total distance between you and the sage to be 29.5. With that you channel an instance alacrity and proceed to follow it with an 1.6 quickshot. Allow an extra .5 for the optional quickshot follow shot to release. Follow that with a 2.1 stun arrow. Chase the stun arrow with an additional quickshot for a .75 chance of increase speed. Follow with regular shot for a .8 chance of kill.. otherwise stleath away.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    zomg paper PvP returns once again
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  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »
    zomg paper PvP returns once again

    Scissors pvp beats paper pvp b:victory
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Scissors pvp beats paper pvp b:victory

    And Scissors PvP also happens to beat rock PvP!
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  • Mooooooooo - Lost City
    Mooooooooo - Lost City Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    OPKossy wrote: »
    And Scissors PvP also happens to beat rock PvP!

    but rock pvp has purify.
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Mooooooooo - Lost City wrote: »
    but rock pvp has purify.

    wtf qq only cuz they oped casters up with r9r2 so ez to get
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  • Mooooooooo - Lost City
    Mooooooooo - Lost City Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »
    wtf qq only cuz they oped casters up with r9r2 so ez to get

    although in normal 1v1s , it's not that op unless you are fighting noob aps sins.
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Mooooooooo - Lost City wrote: »
    although in normal 1v1s , it's not that op unless you are fighting noob aps sins.

    wts nope lol r u stooooooooooooopid

    HH -> RDS -> purify -> IG -> sutra -> spark -> undine -> sandstorm -> GS -> BIDS = dead sin

    looooooooooooooooooool game on ez mode for r9r2 casters
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  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yea i was just thinking about the old before more and leaps stuff. aim low and u dont get sealed/stunned by it. leap/stealth.

    However in NW, ive been finding i have lots of good 1 v1 fights with other r9/g16 archers because of the automatic defensive and hp buffs. When they purge you though, you die moment you get stunned or quickshottedb:chuckle
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »
    whomever misses less wins!

    You're not supposed to use 'whomever' when it's the subject of its clause. I know it's tempting to use it to sound more educated but that backfires when you use it incorrectly.
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  • DamnCrit - Sanctuary
    DamnCrit - Sanctuary Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I believe that who ever lands the first Stunning arrow has the highest chance of winning...
    Yeah... I'm kinda high, but you should know that.b:laugh
  • Djcale - Raging Tide
    Djcale - Raging Tide Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I genuinely find that whisper shot and using lighting strike is the best in an archer duel since often the other archer anti stuns. I always try to make sure to use wings of grace after the other archer does. just cause it fcks their stun up and by then i can stun depending on how tanky that archer is.

    Sage quick shot helps too.

    You could say every same class 1v1 is based on luck and procs etc.
    really i think its more to do with reactivity and instinct. Not so much skill but more of using the right skills at the right time.

    thats my 2 pieces anyway
  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You're not supposed to use 'whomever' when it's the subject of its clause. I know it's tempting to use it to sound more educated but that backfires when you use it incorrectly.

    This is a game lol...lighten up, I've seen worser grammar then that ingame and on forums. And yes I know I should use worse, not worser but example of this being the internet and being able to talk however you want.

    As for on topic, I been looking at the sage skills I been getting and I conclude that it comes down to a few things:

    Most sage or demon skills?
    Top key sage/demon skills acquired?
    Gear grade/refinement/Sharding?(being g16 bow vs xbow vs slingshot all hit pretty damn hard)
  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This is a game lol...lighten up, I've seen worser grammar then that ingame and on forums. And yes I know I should use worse, not worser but example of this being the internet and being able to talk however you want.

    Did you mean to use then instead of than?
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    You can speak however you want in reality too, but you'll be judged accordingly. Why would it be any different on an online forum? The fact that it's a game forum has no bearing on requiring proper grammar, diction, and syntax.

    Also, I fixed it for you, Astypoo:
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The victory goes to whomever misses less!
    Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Unfortunately no. The object of the verb "goes" is the entire noun clause "whoever misses less". "Whoever" is still the subject of that clause.

    You'd have to change that clause to something like.
    The victory goes to whomever the random number generator favors.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    And thus, the archer forums became known as the math AND English section.
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  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    OPKossy wrote: »
    And thus, the archer forums became known as the math AND English section.

    At least it shows that our class strives towards a higher education.
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    At least it shows that our class strives towards a higher education.

    Or just bored and anal
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  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Or just bored and anal

    That too lol.
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Unfortunately no. The object of the verb "goes" is the entire noun clause "whoever misses less". "Whoever" is still the subject of that clause.

    You'd have to change that clause to something like.
    The victory goes to whomever the random number generator favors.

    Bah, you're totally right. As a rule of thumb, I always replace the clause with a pronoun, which I didn't in this case. That's my litmus test for proper usage.
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  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I honestly have great grammar. I have been corrected my whole life by my grandmother, who taught high school English for 30 years. I just choose not to use it.b:victory
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    Sounds like you do have a good grandma. b:laugh
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    OPKossy wrote: »
    Sounds like you do have a good grandma. b:laugh

    ba dum tish
    Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    Dun ban me for the horrible pun. ;_;
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