Summerwind Token Sale
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Mingkeey - Lost City wrote: »When people like you get owned in the future by recast r9 you will regret saying no to the idea.b:byePutting summerwind token in cashshop is a good idea.No differnt when r8/r9 came out in boutique.Whitch forced players to obtain it.
Whine much? b:laugh
The upgrade cycle is there for a reason and as has been mentioned already is similar to that of electronic goods. There will always be early adopters that are prepared to pay a much higher price for newly released stuff but eventually the price will come down if you are patient.
You're just one 1000's of ppl that expected to become a factor once they got r9- but discovered they're still getting owned as you put it! b:laugh
Just be realistic and patient, the drop in price will come eventually as it has with everything else. At the moment you're just coming across as a pathetic crybaby. b:bye0 -
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Whine much? b:laugh
The upgrade cycle is there for a reason and as has been mentioned already is similar to that of electronic goods. There will always be early adopters that are prepared to pay a much higher price for newly released stuff but eventually the price will come down if you are patient.
You're just one 1000's of ppl that expected to become a factor once they got r9- but discovered they're still getting owned as you put it! b:laugh
Just be realistic and patient, the drop in price will come eventually as it has with everything else. At the moment you're just coming across as a pathetic crybaby. b:bye
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Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »OP actually thinking casters got screwed over by R9 tells me he probably can't PK for ****, needs R999 to fight regular R9, and most likely also gets owned by mobs.
This is 90% of r9 mystics because they have no idea how to play the class at all.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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LMAO 100g for a summerwind, when they are about 800m each, so at least something like 600g b:laugh0
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WenSon - Harshlands wrote: »why dont we get random summerwind token for guilds on terretories like we get medals ?
would that be such a bad idea ???
its not broken or op
guilds could just upgrate 1 part of cata barbs gear (for example)
so guilds could keep an important factor in tw competitive and it doesnt influence the income from pwi at all (cause those that get it, wouldnt have bought it anyways)
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people that charge most money arent best of the best... cause as far as i know, skill isnt buyable0 -
Sjuggs - Lost City wrote: »LMAO 100g for a summerwind, when they are about 800m each, so at least something like 600g b:laugh
Well... that's the point. They want it to be cheaper.WenSon - Harshlands wrote: »would that be such a bad idea ???
its not broken or op
guilds could just upgrate 1 part of cata barbs gear (for example)
so guilds could keep an important factor in tw competitive and it doesnt influence the income from pwi at all (cause those that get it, wouldnt have bought it anyways)
I like the idea, but they would have to hand out a fair amount of them. Say, 5 a week spread over all territories. Otherwise the availability of the tokens wouldn't really change at all.WenSon - Harshlands wrote: »PS
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people that charge most money arent best of the best... cause as far as i know, skill isnt buyable
Indeed, it's not buyable. But gear certainly compensates for a lack of skill.
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Summerwind Token for 950 gold each sounds reasonable.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »Summerwind Token for 9500 sounds reasonable.
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Yes, you can cash R8, R9, +10 etc etc etc... but to make the ultimate top tear available so quickly after its introduction would be a mistake.
if this was the case why introduce even more op'ed gear in the first place then anyway?
i mean, r9 came out, then soon afterwards r9r1 and r8 recast and then r9r2
the cashshoppers can buy new gear instantly, whereas farmers need their time to do so, and b4 they r done new gear is out already
on sanc e.g. theres been 2 with r9r1 ppl (cs'ed) by the time r9r2 came out...notice something?0 -
Before the rep sale Rank 8 was about 640 gold (64,000 tokens). After the sale it was 72 gold. (89% reduction).
Currently a summerwind token on my server is roughly 500 gold with full R9 recast at 4500 gold. After an 89% reduction that would be like 50 gold but I think it would likely be 100 gold.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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This stuff is all way too expensive b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »Before the rep sale Rank 8 was about 640 gold (64,000 tokens). After the sale it was 72 gold. (89% reduction).
Currently a summerwind token on my server is roughly 500 gold with full R9 recast at 4500 gold. After an 89% reduction that would be like 50 gold but I think it would likely be 100 gold.
Not to forget that Reputation Sales were invented to cover the "lack of R8/R9 players compared to CN".
Patience is a virtue.
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If rank 8/9 gets cheaper and/or R10 comes out then it is a good time to quit the game. This game is getting almost as faceroll as JD, I quit that game from the day I started JD. It sucked and it was boring... No challenge whatsoever and you're OP without spending a dime...TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »The sad thing is, that puts NV and G16 down to TT90/TT99 status, rofl. And TT90/TT99 to NPC gear status.
Yeah, sad thing goes to that status because people like you suck at this game, you need the next big thing to do half-decent such as R9. This game can be done with TT80 gold gear yet people can't play right with even R8... b:byeI, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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i will pay 300 $ for 1x summerwind token.
or make it 200 raps and 1000 cannysb:victory0 -
Sword_Tammer - Dreamweaver wrote: »make it 200 raps and 1000 cannysb:victory
No, lol. You need to have patience for once and beat the **** out of Vanished Ancestor. Just like with NOT BUYING General Summer Tokens... because you totally can grind City of Abominations.There once a time when I cared about getting to the top quickly as possible to help others. Now, I take it slow, and don't worry about having nothing to do. There's always something to do in an MMORPG, especially if you are high level. PK'ing is for those who desire to inflate their egos. True friendship comes from helping one-another, rather than to start rivalries.
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I wouldn't be opposed to making summerwind tokens the new territory reward to replace what medals used to be. I'm still peeved they made r9 shoppable, it should have stayed the way it was where only a few people a year could have gotten it-would have upped the drive for TW among other things. Again, I'm a CSer, but the whole idea of selling SW toks in boutique frightens me. PW is eliminating the "middle class" (farmers vs shoppers). It's either you're jank or your undergeared anymore.Ling__Tong 101 bm ~ PheosNyx 103 wiz ~ Arande 100 HArcher ~ xXxKuro 100 barb ~ AnselTyme 101 cleric ~ lukeFONfabre 96 seeker ~ Tori_Anzu 90 mystic ~ KateiiHimura 95 veno ~ Artemaeus 58 psy. Playing since April 2009.0
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PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »I wouldn't be opposed to making summerwind tokens the new territory reward to replace what medals used to be. I'm still peeved they made r9 shoppable, it should have stayed the way it was where only a few people a year could have gotten it-would have upped the drive for TW among other things. Again, I'm a CSer, but the whole idea of selling SW toks in boutique frightens me. PW is eliminating the "middle class" (farmers vs shoppers). It's either you're jank or your undergeared anymore.
The only thing I despise more than a cash shop inbalance, is a territory war system that's dominated so much, you can't get epic gear from it. (r9, hint hint. Calamity, hint hint.)There once a time when I cared about getting to the top quickly as possible to help others. Now, I take it slow, and don't worry about having nothing to do. There's always something to do in an MMORPG, especially if you are high level. PK'ing is for those who desire to inflate their egos. True friendship comes from helping one-another, rather than to start rivalries.
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G_tar_God - Dreamweaver wrote: »I don't know if any1 has gone against a r9 3rd cast player, but it makes my full r9 +10/11/12 gear feel like the comparison of r9 +5 gear vs r9 +10, or tt99 +5 vs r8 +10
The more ppl that get r9 3rd, the less hope there is for the hundreds of r9 geared ppl and makes the G16/G15/r8 geared ppl practically insignificant.
That being said, if there was more r9 3rd cast players to come up against the few who already have it or are realistically on their way to getting it, it would level the playing field massively. So easier accessible Summerwind tokens could almost help balance things out.
Atm, if a TW faction has even 1 r9 3rd caster player, its like adding 20 more ppl to the TW instance xD
There is but one person on Archosaur server who is full R9 3rd recast +12...he is a 105 Archer, sharded with DoT's and drakeflames in the weapon....Let's just say that he hits like a freaking mack truck over a deer...in other words over kill.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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A summerwind token sale is really needed at this point ... just looking how easy is to get G16 nirvana (around half cost of full r9) and realizing how better is. I checked myself the differences between r9 and g16nv and the final sentence is that r9 is better only for classes that obtain GOF with it ... in other words g16 vana is best for casters and costs a bit more than half r9... i don't know why pwi made such a mistake but the only way to put an end to this .. is to introduce summerwind tokens in boutique...0
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Dartwave - Sanctuary wrote: »A summerwind token sale is really needed at this point ... just looking how easy is to get G16 nirvana (around half cost of full r9) and realizing how better is. I checked myself the differences between r9 and g16nv and the final sentence is that r9 is better only for classes that obtain GOF with it ... in other words g16 vana is best for casters and costs a bit more than half r9... i don't know why pwi made such a mistake but the only way to put an end to this .. is to introduce summerwind tokens in boutique...
What are the g16 gears, rather, what level do they require? What color are their names? Better yet, do you have a pw database link to at least one? it'd be nice if I could compare them side by side that way.There once a time when I cared about getting to the top quickly as possible to help others. Now, I take it slow, and don't worry about having nothing to do. There's always something to do in an MMORPG, especially if you are high level. PK'ing is for those who desire to inflate their egos. True friendship comes from helping one-another, rather than to start rivalries.
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Dartwave - Sanctuary wrote: »A summerwind token sale is really needed at this point ... just looking how easy is to get G16 nirvana (around half cost of full r9) and realizing how better is. I checked myself the differences between r9 and g16nv and the final sentence is that r9 is better only for classes that obtain GOF with it ... in other words g16 vana is best for casters and costs a bit more than half r9... i don't know why pwi made such a mistake but the only way to put an end to this .. is to introduce summerwind tokens in boutique...
Oh come on.
The classes that do get GoF on R9 are Assassin, Barb, BM and Seeker. That's 4 out of 10 classes. But wait, Spirit Blackhole is awesome for Archers. So that's 5 out of 5 where R9 would be better. And that's a perfect balance.
I can understand the point of wanting the best gear to be in the Boutique. Well, it is. Recast and second recast R9.
The thing is, G16 Nirvana has the same dislikable aspect that recast R8 has: The stats might be really awesome, but it takes a lot of farming. Unless you're willing to pay ridiculous prices (read: 2 billion for a 2x -0.05 interval dagger, 210m for a 4 socket G16 helm) for already made gear, you're left with tons of farming to do. And if you're not in a TW faction, you kinda end up with a situation where you can't find squads to farm with. And that leaves G16 out of the picture for many people.
And let's be honest: if they put in Summerwind Tokens, there's not much good that could come out of it. If they misprice it, like they did with The +11/+12 Orbs, you'll see Gold literally skyrocketing way past the 2m line that we see when there's something epic going on. If they make it too expensive, it'll be just like Warsoul: No one will get it. If they make it a nice balanced amount, you'll see a lot of recast R9s and that's just going to make the gap between the top factions and the lower ones even larger, not to mention making the entry into PvP much higher due to higher gear standards.What are the g16 gears, rather, what level do they require? What color are their names? Better yet, do you have a pw database link to at least one? it'd be nice if I could compare them side by side that way.
The G16 stuff is made from G15 Nirvana. They require items that you get from the new Vile bosses in Lunar Glade and Warsong. Their names are yellow, but the names are the same as G15 Lunar Nirvana, as is the looks. You can compare them by picking a piece of G15 of your choice in PWDB, then going to that piece's page, you'll see the G16 that it can be made into in the "used to manufacture" part.
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Dude... boutique or not ... u can get it with uncannies and raptures ... what i mean is that we want it cheaper because compared to g16 nirvana , the cost of R9R is bullsht . Ok if not in boutique , then make it doable with candies , like in chinese pw0
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