So confused :(

AshenSkies - Heavens Tear

I know I've posted one of these threads before....but I really have NO idea what to do now

My dilemma is that I hate my HP...and physical defense[link]

I was thinking of either R8 recast for the +900 HP boost for 2 parts(top and pants) or the G16 nirvana for the 500 HP boost(top and pants again).

I probably won't finish off a set of G16 nirvana or R8 recast due to cost issues and me thinking it's not worth the coin I'd spend on it.

What do you suggest? Also shard wise?

I guess [this] might be what I aim for at "super endgame" for me...

Jhalil - Heavens Tear

http://pwcalc.com/2f6a0fc5879da058

Trade off about 3k pdef and about 1.2k HP for an extra 20 attack levels and an extra 15 defense levels.
And if you're really worried about p.def you can always 2nd stage neck or go for a sky cover ring.
But imo 15 def levels + 20 attack levels > 3k pdef + 1.2k HP.

As for your shards, it's personal preference. If you feel that you are a fairly good kiter and you can utilize your defensive genie skills/apoth well enough, go DoTs. Same price as Cit gems on HT.
If you really want the HP go cit gems but cit gems will rarely really save you, even full cit gems adds less than 2k HP on to your max HP I believe.
Especially out west you should know with the amount of full R9 zerking HA folks out there and archers that extra 2k really won't do you much good in most cases.

There's always cit gems/garnet gems for a balanced defense or full Jades for optimal defense but then again, I doubt you have a car around you can sell to get full jades so that's out of the question xd

But yeah, as for gear I honestly would have no idea why you would get some of the R8 recast pieces over the S3 nirv, the def/attack levels on the s3 make up for any stats/bonuses on the R8 recast and could probably get all your s3 nirv for the cost of getting 1 R8r piece and rolling it's stats till you're happy.



P.S Added cit gems to ring engraving 'cause laziness.

U_Sasuke - Sanctuary

cashop r9! then +12 josd it all with icebourne x 2 in wepon
pro suggestion!

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

go full g16
its not that much after all, canny price is decreasing and you can do every bit step by step
spam full ws and castrated nirvana ;D
dont bother with r8
get the def and attack lvl bonus :x




edit: wow i just noticed we use the same weapon but there is a huge gap in magic attack (im at 17043-18959)
get a better tome too
one with more statpoints

AshenSkies - Heavens Tear

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

go full g16
its not that much after all, canny price is decreasing and you can do every bit step by step
spam full ws and castrated nirvana ;D
dont bother with r8
get the def and attack lvl bonus :x




edit: wow i just noticed we use the same weapon but there is a huge gap in magic attack (im at 17043-18959)
get a better tome too
one with more statpoints

I would love to see your build!

PWCalc for meb:cute

Burnout - Harshlands

Forget defense, you can upgrade all your armor to +10 and you'll still be 1-shot to R9's. Just get a +12 tranquility and spend the money you would have spent on armors for Ironguards instead. Should get you like, 2000 ironguards.

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »

Forget defense, you can upgrade all your armor to +10 and you'll still be 1-shot to R9's. Just get a +12 tranquility and spend the money you would have spent on armors for Ironguards instead. Should get you like, 2000 ironguards.

lmao thats like exactly what i did
i have my +12 orb ready at the bank waiting for a 1star sale for +11 xd
and i have a safety stack of 300 IG in my bank
should have made more before leaving the big-shot faction but all the herbs in AH and catshops didnt get me more than 300 IG in 1 day



my failerous build as requested: http://pwcalc.com/c21f371f540d9c16
fekkin low pdef, i even die to assasins in TW
i have no defensive set bonuses yet QQ

Adroit - Lost City

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

lmao thats like exactly what i did
i have my +12 orb ready at the bank waiting for a 1star sale for +11 xd
and i have a safety stack of 300 IG in my bank
should have made more before leaving the big-shot faction but all the herbs in AH and catshops didnt get me more than 300 IG in 1 day



my failerous build as requested: http://pwcalc.com/c21f371f540d9c16
fekkin low pdef, i even die to assasins in TW
i have no defensive set bonuses yet QQ

Those shards b:infuriated

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

Those shards b:infuriated

DoT in a 3 socket R8 top...


WHYYYYYYYYYYY

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

DoT in a 3 socket R8 top...


WHYYYYYYYYYYY

that shard cost me 1 mil. whats the matter? b:laugh
when was the first rank8 sale? that top is exactly that old xd

first i only used that top for nien-event and put a dot in it since they were cheap anyway
(i used a first-cast nirvana +7 back then)

but later i thought i like channeling more and refined my rank8 top... a bit..

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

that shard cost me 1 mil. whats the matter? b:laugh
when was the first rank8 sale? that top is exactly that old xd
i didnt use it for most of the time since i also have a first cast-nirvana top (i dont use anymore)

Still, it's enough to make people's heads explode with OCD.

I still wonder why they were that cheap once, it's not like people didn't know what attack levels were back then...

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Still, it's enough to make people's heads explode with OCD.

I still wonder why they were that cheap once, it's not like people didn't know what attack levels were back then...

mainly because
people didnt know how great jades are
back then armor refines were not +10 average as its now
so dot builds kinda sucked

highly refined assasins driven DoT price up since they thrive for more damage
i had to buy the DoTs for my assasin armor for 14 mil each

people took some time till they realized that Josd is the best shard
when it was hyped on forums in every built the price exploded

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Yes, but I still live better in tw with 8 garnets. 90% of my kills in TW are from archers and sins, so I left 8 sockets for garnet gems to tank r9 archers a little better.

And I know how you feel with old DoTs in gear. My cloudcharger still has vit stones I got for 8m each that still raise some eyebrows . . . . .