PWI Refining Simulator

Jaabg - Sanctuary

Is there a way to change prices for items?

I get my gold at different prices, and wait for good sales, so my orb cost is lower, was wondering if that could be changed? Would make it closer to what i expect.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

Is there a way to change prices for items?

I get my gold at different prices, and wait for good sales, so my orb cost is lower, was wondering if that could be changed? Would make it closer to what i expect.

Not yet but when I get around to it you'll be able to click on the refine aid icons on the right to set the price.

OIdpop - Heavens Tear

lets all simulate and dream then go in game and do the simulations and rage quit b:laugh

AshenSkies - Heavens Tear

OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »

lets all simulate and dream then go in game and do the simulations and rage quit b:laugh

b:chucklegonna have the worst luck with my G16 magic sword...

chaoticshelly

Asterelle, 5 days passed and I think the topic got its well deserved recognition - I'll be moving and sticking it in the cracfting nook! Thanks for creating this nifty tool

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Added a feature now to allow you to set the price of refine Aids. You just click the icon of the aid in the results window and you should get a nifty dialog.

This setting is also remembered between sessions so you don't have to keep setting it.

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

Asterelle, 5 days passed and I think the topic got its well deserved recognition - I'll be moving and sticking it in the cracfting nook! Thanks for creating this nifty tool

No problem.

Jaabg - Sanctuary

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Added a feature now to allow you to set the price of refine Aids. You just click the icon of the aid in the results window and you should get a nifty dialog..

Thank you b:pleased.

STommys - Heavens Tear

My last post gave me ideas on how to make the auto refine better. So I did, and now it is awesome. It lets you test all sort of combinations. But it might also be a bit complex. Anyway here it is:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8OaBgc05Pe6cnF2eXRyUUxuXzg

BTW... nice ponny easter egg b:laugh

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

STommys - Heavens Tear wrote: »

My last post gave me ideas on how to make the auto refine better. So I did, and now it is awesome. It lets you test all sort of combinations. But it might also be a bit complex. Anyway here it is:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8OaBgc05Pe6cnF2eXRyUUxuXzg

BTW... nice ponny easter egg b:laugh

Aww killing off the interactivity Ohh well it's pretty cool.
I've added it with a couple tweeks, mostly to allow you to specify a non-mirage at +0
I'm unsure about the number spinner though... that control can be a bit strange looking.
I might change it to a dropdown later.

Pyrostormz - Raging Tide

i like the rules you just added

lets me simulate more

STommys - Heavens Tear

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Aww killing off the interactivity Ohh well it's pretty cool.
I've added it with a couple tweeks, mostly to allow you to specify a non-mirage at +0
I'm unsure about the number spinner though... that control can be a bit strange looking.
I might change it to a dropdown later.

It does kill it, but it is pretty cool.

Oops, forgot about adding aids at 0 refine... was always testing with higher values... b:surrender

Maybe the number input is not the best, but not sure about a 12 number select either...

TechDawg - Sanctuary

Very nicely done. If I had one suggestion/request it would be that when you pressed the Reset button, the current Refining aid enabled would be removed, so that your next attempt would again follow the rules you've set up.

Thank you for the time you put into this and for sharing it with the rest of us

STommys - Heavens Tear

TechDawg - Sanctuary wrote: »

Very nicely done. If I had one suggestion/request it would be that when you pressed the Reset button, the current Refining aid enabled would be removed, so that your next attempt would again follow the rules you've set up.

If you are trying to use a refine aid since a level greater than 1, you could just set a rule with mirages since level 0. Using mirages as part of the rule would remove any aid since the refine level specified until the next rule if there is one.


I saw some new changes... I liked them. It would be great if you added the titles font too for the windows.
I am not sure if I like the center aligment of the simulator... maybe I am just used to have it to the left.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

STommys - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If you are trying to use a refine aid since a level greater than 1, you could just set a rule with mirages since level 0. Using mirages as part of the rule would remove any aid since the refine level specified until the next rule if there is one.


I saw some new changes... I liked them. It would be great if you added the titles font too for the windows.
I am not sure if I like the center aligment of the simulator... maybe I am just used to have it to the left.

The problem I had with using the game font for the window titles was that the titles would be blank for a second until the fonts were loaded which I found annoying. Because of that I'm only using it in elements not immediately visible. Also I noticed the fonts still rendered differently across different browsers. Chrome on windows performed poorly in using that font for the chat messages in-line layout while firefox and chrome for mac os didn't have that problem. The foray into custom web fonts has left a somewhat sour impression on me so I don't think I'll push it any farther.

I liked left justify too kinda but a center layout is far more standard, just look at this forum. After using it centered for a while I found it didn't bother me anymore.

tripletriad

Thanks for this neat calc Asterelle b:thanks
I can't find any cheaper method than using dOrbs tho.. >.> my luck is so bad with this..

Anyway, I noticed that the price of dOrbs/tisha/tienkang/chienkun in your calc is a fixed value. Is it possible to make them as an input variable? so ppl from every server can input a different price according to the market price of these items on their server b:thanks

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

tripletriad wrote: »

Thanks for this neat calc Asterelle b:thanks
I can't find any cheaper method than using dOrbs tho.. >.> my luck is so bad with this..

Anyway, I noticed that the price of dOrbs/tisha/tienkang/chienkun in your calc is a fixed value. Is it possible to make them as an input variable? so ppl from every server can input a different price according to the market price of these items on their server b:thanks

You have to click the icons on the right.

tripletriad

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

You have to click the icons on the right.

oh, my bad, I didn't notice that before b:shy

so, after adjusting to sanctuary price,
I can't go below 181 mils to make +10 armor b:shocked

STommys - Heavens Tear

b:laugh LoL just saw the WC with my name in it b:laugh

BTW... my in-game name is sTommys...


Wouldnt adding a second font-family for the titles solve the custom font issue? Times New Roman or Georgia would be ok until the game font loads. An ultimate solution, would be to just put the names on the images, and making one for the autorefine

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Updated your name. I don't think I'd be very satisfied with more font stuff but I might look into it again.

I'd rather add some interesting functionality but can't really think of anything good.
Maybe I should find a way somehow to tie the new commenting system I added into the random World Chats?

x12345apx

how about stop being such trollface **** and eliminate the whole refining lvl reset annoyance. why should ppl spend so much mony only to have it taken completely from them for nothing. srsly, whoever implemented such a bull**** things is a complete ****tard. im sick of this game taking my hard earned money and giving me **** in return. the way i see it, pwi can either get rid of this unfair bull**** or go **** themselves entirely.

TpachecoFDTD - Heavens Tear

This is awesome!

Terrastrike - Lost City

Everyone always tells me to refine at Misfortune Elder

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Terrastrike - Lost City wrote: »

Everyone always tells me to refine at Misfortune Elder

Go for it! Count Misfortune added b:victory

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Small update. Added the ability to select male / female at the top (changes the look of some icons).

Vixre - Harshlands

is that world chat thingie live? o.O

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Vixre - Harshlands wrote: »

is that world chat thingie live? o.O

Nah it's just a simulation. Part of the skill of being a refining expert is learning how to ignore distractions. It would be cool though if it was real. Thanks again for the hosting space!

peakinout

Neodaystar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Awesome toy!

I tried it for about 30 min, and I can't seem to get the bow to 7+ with over 100 mil of mirages and refine aids. Can anyone?

i started using the auto-refine and left it set to 0 seconds, then you can just "roll" it like dice.

peakinout

x12345apx wrote: »

how about stop being such trollface **** and eliminate the whole refining lvl reset annoyance. why should ppl spend so much mony only to have it taken completely from them for nothing. srsly, whoever implemented such a bull**** things is a complete ****tard. im sick of this game taking my hard earned money and giving me **** in return. the way i see it, pwi can either get rid of this unfair bull**** or go **** themselves entirely.

#Whyumadbro: Its like gamlbing, use DO's....

_Potency_ - Momaganon

2 questions what kind of random function do you use , my neuronal network picked up a pattern much faster vs the stdlib functions used in pwi , also where did you get your equations from , rev engineered the leaked server or got them off forums and such?

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

_Potency_ - Momaganon wrote: »

2 questions what kind of random function do you use , my neuronal network picked up a pattern much faster vs the stdlib functions used in pwi , also where did you get your equations from , rev engineered the leaked server or got them off forums and such?

It's just javascript's Math.random()

function refine() {
	var refineAid = settings.currentRefineAid;
	var refineGear = settings.currentGear;
	if (refineAid == null || refineGear == null) {
		return;
	}
	var originalRefineLevel = refineGear.refineLevel;
	var successChance = refineAid.chances[Math.min(originalRefineLevel, 11)];
	consume(refineAid, refineGear.numMirages);
	if ([COLOR="Red"]Math.random() < successChance[/COLOR]) {
		//Congrats!
		refineGear.refineLevel = Math.min(12, refineGear.refineLevel+1);
	} else {
		if (refineAid.failType == RefineFail.RESET)
			refineGear.refineLevel = 0;
		else if (refineAid.failType == RefineFail.DECREMENT) 
			refineGear.refineLevel = Math.max(0, refineGear.refineLevel - 1);
	}
	refineGear.refineCount++;
	refineGear.refineCounts[refineGear.refineLevel]++;
	refineGear.bestRefine = Math.max(refineGear.bestRefine, refineGear.refineLevel);
	refineMessageLog(originalRefineLevel, refineGear.refineLevel);
	updateResults();
}

The refine chances are taken from the wiki page http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Refining. They were originally teased from the data files by someone else running the game in debug mode. I've verified the chances for some of the items encoded in elements.data http://i.imgur.com/GLGIKdV.png