thoughts on spawn point killing in TW
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Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »I am like what... the 2nd... 3rd... at the most 4th r9 archer on my server. If I care for sportsmanship... why the heck would i get r9? That's like going bird hunting with a nuke... yea... going to be very sporty when I vaporize that poor quail.
The sad thing is the very fact that you don't care about it in an online game means you don't care about it anywhere under any circumstances which just shows the decline of "civilized" culture in the world.
I bet you were one of those that enjoyed killing blue names under lvl 30 during the SP fiasco too.
Having r9 has nothing to do with sportsmanship. Sure it gives you an advantage, an advantage you either payed for or worked hard for or asked your mommy and daddy nice for. Whatever the case you have it, saying just having r9 makes you a poor sportsmen is the akin to saying being more skilled makes you a poor sportsman. Every level of sports has people with different skills no one every plays on the exact same footing because people are unique. Sportsmanship in a lot of ways is about enjoying each other's uniqueness.
People like you that do it whenver possible makes me think that you are afraid. You don't want to give the other faction a fair chance because you are afriad they will rally and beat you. You'll deny it of course but as a psychiatrist after reading your posts here and reviewing other posts you've made that's my first impression of you. Go ahead and keep posting, maybe I'll analyze you some more and discover the root of your deepseated insecurities and send you a bill.0 -
AshenSkies - Heavens Tear wrote: »It's assumptions like these that make people look stupid. How do you know how long he/she has been playing?
Just...lol.
Venu already answered you.The top factions on HL don't pay out TW money to the faction.
Soooooo, members just pay for there own charms and except that the leader walks away with everything?
You got some weird people walking around over there
Yup people pay for their charms/pots and don't get weekly pay, pretty much just cata barb got free charm.
I got pm sometime in game from my friends who are in the second top faction, they complain that no one get money for TW, but the leader suddenly got a R9+12 char in like a week, not hard to know where he took the money, but on HL many people are just sheep and are to scare to ask questions to a leader or the leader just doesn't answer and poor little members think there's no life outside their own faction so they stay with their friends while the leader use them to get money.
I see many people ask in many faction to be paid for TW, but all leaders refuse to weekly pay.SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »sounds like HL could easily get a new dominant tw faction, if anyone who is willing to send out tw pay is willing to form a faction
I think the same.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »I got pm sometime in game from my friends who are in the second top faction, they complain that no one get money for TW, but the leader suddenly got a R9+12 char in like a week, not hard to know where he took the money, but on HL many people are just sheep and are to scare to ask questions to a leader or the leader just doesn't answer and poor little members think there's no life outside their own faction so they stay with their friends while the leader use them to get money.
The TW pay are all going to r9s. You think a leader is going to refuse any r9 a share of the TW pay... especially considering r9s travel in packs. Only the scrubs are scared of asking for pay. My TW pay while I was in Radiance was easily the equivalent of 60+ gold. And my coin pay was even higher in Enrage. But any one who actually think you can get +12 r9 with a week worth of TW day (even if its all the lands) is either misinformed or just plain stupid... but more likely BOTH.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
you'd think pwi made TW baby friendly enough with the **** reset every 6 month's
now they come cry about getting spawnkilled ........
F that, i'm going back to hello kitty online, the players are more mature there b:bye0 -
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »The TW pay are all going to r9s. You think a leader is going to refuse any r9 a share of the TW pay... especially considering r9s travel in packs. Only the scrubs are scared of asking for pay. My TW pay while I was in Radiance was easily the equivalent of 60+ gold. And my coin pay was even higher in Enrage. But any one who actually think you can get +12 r9 with a week worth of TW day (even if its all the lands) is either misinformed or just plain stupid... but more likely BOTH.
What i'm saying is not new, even before R9 that was like that. I know some people who was since 2 years in a big TW faction and never got a single coin from TW.
Tbh i don't care i do TW cause it's suppose to be fun, but not all do it for fun.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »What i'm saying is not new, even before R9 that was like that. I know some people who was since 2 years in a big TW faction and never got a single coin from TW.
Tbh i don't care i do TW cause it's suppose to be fun, but not all do it for fun.
If the members aren't getting paid and it's going to the leader... then what's the point of the members doing TW? For fun since all they're getting out of it fees. The people getting unpaid thing kinda defeats the argument of people doing it for profit instead of fun. Sure the faction leader may profit... but if the players in the fac aren't enjoying themselves and having fun, they have no reason to stay there unless the faction helps them outside of TW.0 -
Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »What i'm saying is not new, even before R9 that was like that. I know some people who was since 2 years in a big TW faction and never got a single coin from TW.
Tbh i don't care i do TW cause it's suppose to be fun, but not all do it for fun.
What you are saying is either made up or you and/or your friend/informant just happen to joined a poor excuse for a guild. Or maybe both of you is just so counter productive in TW that your leader(s) decided not to pay you out of shame.
My archer went from +5 stun tt80, +8 tt90 gold, +10 cv, +12 r8, and finally +12 r9... all of it was within a week or so of release/possible acquisition. My archer's veno wife... who never made it pass +5 tt99... never once did get any less in terms of TW pay then my full r9 archer. Even during the time frame that my archer was one of maybe half to one dozen r9s on the server.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
People stay in faction for friends, cause they think they cannot make new friends in a new faction.
Kiyoshi sorry i'm not sure to understand what you saying.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »People stay in faction for friends, cause they think they cannot make new friends in a new faction.
That only works if you are friend with the guild leadership... which in turn means your own friend decided not to pay you. And if you and your friends all aren't getting paid... there is something call leaving as a group. But that would require logic and 2.9 functioning brain cells.Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Kiyoshi sorry i'm not sure to understand what you saying.
Maybe i'll try cave man speak...
me +12 full r9. wife +5 tt99. me pay = wife pay. you scrub. you no pay.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »me +12 full r9. wife +5 tt99. me pay = wife pay. you scrub. you no pay.
Me TARZAN! You JANE! b:laugh0 -
SirMerchalot - Raging Tide wrote: »you'd think pwi made TW baby friendly enough with the **** reset every 6 month's
now they come cry about getting spawnkilled ........
F that, i'm going back to hello kitty online, the players are more mature there b:bye
Please, do so. b:thanks
As to TW pay, it's not rocket scientry. We set up a spread sheet on Google Docs on line with a running balance sheet for all members to see. (It takes 2 clicks from the home page of our website.) When we win, we apply 10% to faction for the base & expenses. The rest is divided up evenly to those who signed up and attended that TW. We also allow members to donate their TW pay to the faction. Faction Base leveling and other expenses are listed weekly as they are spent. Our pay isn't great, but we have free players who need it. An open spread sheet shows that nobody is getting special treatment.
I find it hard to believe that most TW factions don't do this for their members as it's the membership that makes the faction and they deserve to know what's going on with faction finances.
b:bye
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It sucks to have it done to you.
But then its fun do to.
Get more OP and join the fun.What kind of fool pays for a free game.0 -
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »That only works if you are friend with the guild leadership... which in turn means your own friend decided not to pay you. And if you and your friends all aren't getting paid... there is something call leaving as a group. But that would require logic and 2.9 functioning brain cells.
It's more simple than that, people have no balls, back in time i was in that faction people was pming me to ask me to speak to the leader cause they didn't had the balls do to themself, i'm not in that faction since a long time, but still have friends that pm me complaining that the leader use the money for himself, when i tell them to leave if they are not happy, they say they can't leave cause their friends are there.
A other faction i left recently, a officer pmed me asking if i would come back if they make the leader abdicate the lead, saying the leader was killing the faction, many officer pmed me saying the leader is bad and killing the faction, yesterday i saw the leader who is still leader and all officers complaining about the leader are still in the faction, cause to scare to loose their precious title on their head to say what they think.
but anyway it's kinda out topic, my point was people don't care about respect in TW on HL.Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »Maybe i'll try cave man speak...
me +12 full r9. wife +5 tt99. me pay = wife pay. you scrub. you no pay.
Gratz on R9?? I don't see what that have to do with the topic...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
Maybe i'll try cave man speak...
me +12 full r9. wife +5 tt99. me pay = wife pay. you scrub. you no pay.
Lmao Kiyo!0 -
Flarephoenix - Dreamweaver wrote: »Or leave your faction taking the faction bank with you to fund R9, join the bandwagon faction of the server and then spawn kill in their name.
Making **** up as you go along? under fake accounts? Still QQing cause I left. Poor weak faction.. Play us your sorry song.
See I could care less but you're still talking..
b:cryb:cryb:cry
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AmbrosiaXIII - Dreamweaver wrote: ». you have to ask yourself what are theses people like in real life.
It's really sad that you think actions on a video game basically make that person just as bad if not worse in real life. It's a video game. I'm an absolute ***.hole in this game most of the time yet in real life I'm in the process of becoming an officer (undecided as to exactly what so I'll just generalize). Someone who's willing to risk their life to save the life of another and make sure people can walk in/out of their house knowing they're as safe as they can be. That's who this ***.hole is in real life.
You know what though? If I see someone attacking you in real life I might just encourage them to keep going, ****.0 -
Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »A other faction i left recently, a officer pmed me asking if i would come back if they make the leader abdicate the lead, saying the leader was killing the faction, many officer pmed me saying the leader is bad and killing the faction, yesterday i saw the leader who is still leader and all officers complaining about the leader are still in the faction, cause to scare to loose their precious title on their head to say what they think.
Let me get this straight... a bunch of spineless cowards wants you back in their guild is they can remove their all mighty leader. That must make you feel important. Face it... if the guild leader is paying some but not paying others. The useful members are getting paid... and those who aren't paid are disposable.Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »It's really sad that you think actions on a video game basically make that person just as bad if not worse in real life. It's a video game. I'm an absolute ***.hole in this game most of the time yet in real life I'm in the process of becoming an officer (undecided as to exactly what so I'll just generalize). Someone who's willing to risk their life to save the life of another and make sure people can walk in/out of their house knowing they're as safe as they can be. That's who this ***.hole is in real life.
You know what though? If I see someone attacking you in real life I might just encourage them to keep going, ****.
In all fairness... there are parallels. I mean... whats the first thing to do in a war... strike at the mother ****ing enemy base... smack their troops around before they can mobilize. Now... wtf do you think my barrages are doing.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
b:laugh honestly I don't realy even get why anyone wastes their time with tw anymore the amount of coins you get basically covers costs of having tw's in the first place when its two equally geared fac's.
My own personal opinion is the pvp died on this game when the first person got 5 aps on a bm on lc the best pvp was back when it was only 9x running around in the op 9x HH gears there was no stealth bp or other op skills for the most part ppl complained about barbs hp and wizzies nuking and called ppl csers for having a charm in pvp.b:surrender0 -
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »Let me get this straight... a bunch of spineless cowards wants you back in their guild is they can remove their all mighty leader. That must make you feel important. Face it... if the guild leader is paying some but not paying others. The useful members are getting paid... and those who aren't paid are disposable.
Nothing to do with the money, it's just to show that people just don't have balls.
They love pm to QQ, but don't have the courage to say what they think to the concerned person which in that case is the leader. (There a lot of people getting stuff by favoritism and not cause they are more important than the other)
But anyway like i said it's out topic now so if you want to continue that convo pm me or in other case we can stop here.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »In all fairness... there are parallels. I mean... whats the first thing to do in a war... strike at the mother ****ing enemy base... smack their troops around before they can mobilize. Now... wtf do you think my barrages are doing.
Exactly! TW = Territory WARS! You either plan to TAKE someone's land, or KEEP yours. Simple. No safe zones = no rules. Alls fair in love and war - don't like the rules that aren't there? Don't TW...
Personally - continuing to kill AFTER the TW is far worse than spawn killing imo. Hence why our faction turns and flies away when it's over. And if you're not having fun in any part of the game - stop playing. Just quit whining about everything you disagree with. Many of us live just fine in a drama free life tyvm....[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I used to die at the hand of spawn killers...
but then I got better gear and I don't die in spawn kills anymore.
Also...you can pot while sealed. (I like to abuse the shadow binder pots while in res-seal mode, but sutra and IG work too...)
In PWI you have to expect for people to be A-Holes, and prepare yourself accordingly b:bye
Honestly playing with this mindset is less frustrating than expecting people to be good sports. b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »I didn't bought my account and i play since way more long time than you, but if on your sever you got real money for TW you are the one who probably don't play a lot.
A land lvl 3 receive 10m, a lvl 2 20m and a lvl 1 30m, so i dunno where you get your 5$ or 2$.
I'm surprised you can't do simple math. Obviously you know how to read. And you also know how to write.
Do you know what the conversion rate for gold=coins? Is that math too difficult for you?
You can't do the simple math and say, if gold is at 1m and you get 2m coin for TW if you own the whole map? That would equal 2 dollars.
Yes, that's a whole lot of money to be greedy over if you're like 13 years old. :PAnd majority (all) factions on HL doesnt pay members of the faction for TW. So yea for a leader who own half of the map it's a lot of money.
And apparently that just applies to your server, so you are in the minority.
People don't TW for TW pay. Gold isn't at 100k anymore.
Even when you own the whole map, TW pay doesn't cover the price of hp/mp/atk/def charms, pk pots, etc...I love puppies.... and sharp objects. b:pleased0 -
TempleSlave - Lost City wrote: »Obviously you know how to read. And you also know how to write.
Just wanted to quote that.
TempleSlave - Lost City wrote: »You can't do the simple math and say, if gold is at 1m and you get 2m coin for TW if you own the whole map? That would equal 2 dollars.
Gold price change often and for a land a faction receive 10m coins not 10 golds (as far as i know there's no server atm with 1m=1gold). People use $ to speak about real money, people who get money in game call it coin or gold.TempleSlave - Lost City wrote: »And apparently that just applies to your server, so you are in the minority.
Are you saying that i cannot speak cause i'm a minority?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Are you saying that i cannot speak cause i'm a minority?
You can speak all you want. But I should probably point out that my friend in harshland is getting TW pay and does not have a officer position of any sort. The only real way of being denied TW pay is to either 1. go in absolutely unprepared (no charm, no apoc, no everything) or 2. being so completely useless that your presence in TW only serve to give the enemy chi.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
It's Territory WAR.
Not Territory lets have huggles and be nice to each other.
If its not using glitches or breaking laws, suck it up and stop being whiny bytches.
All this talk about sportsmanship, is typical american politically correct nonsense, its a freakn WAR!What kind of fool pays for a free game.0
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