sooo what everyone think of pwi amazing attempt ruin game with new update

FragiIe - Dreamweaver

not sure some of you realize this but making money is PWE's main goal and it should be, you guys go to work to earn your weekly paycheck and this is what they do to earn their paycheck...they probably could do a better job I agree but i won't sit here and bytch because they want to make money!

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear

FragiIe - Dreamweaver wrote: »

not sure some of you realize this but making money is PWE's main goal and it should be, you guys go to work to earn your weekly paycheck and this is what they do to earn their paycheck...they probably could do a better job I agree but i won't sit here and bytch because they want to make money!

+8, first off i wouldnt knw what it was like before all this came out, in Sot, aba, warsong or lunar since ive only been in lunar and Sot least once. heres the point im hoping to make here, sure it was a shock to all pwi players when the tokens got a huge increase in cost. But why complain bout something that is only temporary? which would be better? permanate vs temporary. plus i think time is up for players to knw their class and how it works, so if pwe adds content to make the bosses hard and unsoloable that is not entirely pwi's fault but the playerbase's fault for allowing new players to just simply do things the easy way (hypering in FC for one) when it probably should be the veteran players that should be teaching and advising the newer players into knowing how to play their class the right way instead of fussing, crying, whining, or stomping off like lil toddlers who throw a temper tantrum. sure the hyper babies havent made the whole thing pleasable to us who have been here for yrs and knw wht its like and was like to do the hard/dirty work of getting the things we wanted. even though all this OP gear like r8, r9, nirv, recast 2&3 isnt helping the game or the issue when all a player needs is to merchant alot or swipe a piece of plastic just to get the endgame gear that has ruined the game since it first came out. if it were me, id take out all of the OP gear and start over from scratch. if there was a possibility of bringing all this gear back out, it probably have better stats, better ways to farm it in game and less OP without having to use rl money to get it. What should of been done is where TT gear could be able to compete with the rest of the gear such and r8, r9 and nirv. instead we get gear that is like 3-5x stronger than tt gear where tt used to be the best gear around. But i guess this is wht happens to players who solo everything without restrictions. if the players cant learn things then it takes an outside force to restrain them or in this case putting up certain barriers or obsticals just for em to learn teamwork and their class.

2nd, the only thing worth while from the content update is that SP got back to normal. plus i wont say fixed when it was a mistake to begin with from the devs.

3rd, for those that say tht they'll be quitting from another **** up from the devs, all i gotta say is break a leg. if you cant have fun in pw when it only satisifies your ego and your own spending then maybe its good that your leaving cause pw or the players dont need another whining crybaby just to get their way.

Svaarog - Sanctuary

SoultheWolf - Lost City wrote: »

Ya if you're a r8 with 5.5k hp I hightly doubt you are stealing aggro to get the one shot hit on you. I'm one of the best venos on the game (what I've been told hundreds of times). Not to mention that the higher damage you do on the bosses the more damage it does on you. So if you're in a squad of lower geared people you will be dealt less damage then if you are in a squad of full r9s. We had sins of full r9 +12s complaining about the boss because they were dieing too. Try tanking it first before insulting someone. It doesn't matter WHAT gear you have or how much skill you have, if you are being dealt nearly 15k when you have slightly over 10k hp you wont survive.

I highly doubt you can play your veno, nugh said. Boss is rather easy if you know what to do and stealing aggro is not a problem if you get hit for 35k damage but something else (if you decided to actually purge bosses buffs instead of trying to steal aggro you guys may have not die), its the whining morons that spoiled this game complaining about everything. Suggestion: go to etherblade area and 1 hit the mobs there all day long, will make you feel good about yourself. No need to reply to the post, I won't read it not coming back to this thread.. of course, unless you really think you have to.

FragiIe - Dreamweaver wrote: »

not sure some of you realize this but making money is PWE's main goal and it should be, you guys go to work to earn your weekly paycheck and this is what they do to earn their paycheck...they probably could do a better job I agree but i won't sit here and bytch because they want to make money!

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CroPsy - Heavens Tear

ariani wrote: »

I've already quit. But I don't see why other people shouldn't complain if they are unhappy. How else will PWE know they they've done something to upset their players?

This is not complaining, this is pure whining. When you complain you explain little more in detail what thing is annoying you.
When you whine you just say "OMG I HATE PWI NOW FOR NEW EXPANSION!!!! FIX IT OR I RAGE QUIT! OMG OMG OMG!"

ariani wrote: »

PWE is ultimately to blame for those prices because their patch created the increase in demand for the tokens. You can't blame the merchants for hiking their prices if people are still willing to pay. I don't think anyone, including yourself, would be willing to start selling tokens for 10-12K right now when they know they can get 2-3 times that price.

The increased prices were foreseeable by PWE.

Players are allowed to be greedy, and PWE isn't allow to be greedy?
Where is logic in that? b:bye

lukon12

This game turned into hard work rather than an enjoyable pastime, disappointment after disappointment - hard work for pixels?) this is the purpose of the life?)

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide

I must say I am quite disappointed in the update and no I am not QQing. Have I csed, yes, am I r9, not even close but I have farmed good gear on my toons including a 5 aps sage sin. This update took things that had nothing wrong with them and changed them, some would say an improvement some would disagree, that point of the matter is IF IT ISN'T BROKEN DON'T FIX IT.

There are tons of other issues with the game some serious some minor that people constantly ask to be updated, fixed or just taken out. Yet those things are never addressed by the Devs things that are addressed are the things that make them more money and the things that are ignored or put off to be fixed later are the real issues with the game. And no I am not saying everything is PWI's fault or the Dev's fault, players grief each other in any game and the economy is largely our fault (mostly do to most people's belief 2x drops and sales are the only time to do anything.) But the buck stops at someone's door, and that someone is rolling in the cash and laughing because of how little they actually have to do to feel like they've accomplished something.

XxZavxX - Raging Tide

All the QQ thread reminds of this picture

FragiIe - Dreamweaver

XxZavxX - Raging Tide wrote: »

All the QQ thread reminds of this picture

b:laughb:laugh

Odinna - Dreamweaver

lukon12 wrote: »

This game turned into hard work rather than an enjoyable pastime, disappointment after disappointment - hard work for pixels?) this is the purpose of the life?)

Agreed, Im feeling like Im working for someone (spending all my free time farming=working) or even worse, wasting real money here (in CS cases)...

Svaarog - Sanctuary

Odinna - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Agreed, Im feeling like Im working for someone (spending all my free time farming=working) or even worse, wasting real money here (in CS cases)...

Yet no one forces you to do so

lordmot

Ezmerallda - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have been playing this game for almost 3 years and loved it till now. Those new bosses are so stupid.... All u did is **** half pwi off with that ****. All you people think is MONEY of which i even gave u some mine now ashamed to admit.... I WONT BE DOING THAT AGAIN. Work so hard get where I am just so PWI can **** everything up. PWI so greedy cant even have a decent sale these days except there totally rip off packs ..... Cant even have good orb sale. TO PERFECT WORLD FIX THIS FAIL **** IM FIXING RAGEQUIT AND WONT BE BAK

Guess maybe that means that the other half of players are happy with the changes? You know, the half that gets left behind in Nirvy, TT, etc. The half that had to learn their toons to have a hope of surviving when they do get in a squad. The wonderfulness of these changes became clear to me last night when I saw the WC "Looking for a caster for Aba, pm me."

All in all, I'm quite happy with this mini-expansion.

p.s. Ok, I do agree with you completely about the orb sale. b:chuckle

FragiIe - Dreamweaver

Odinna - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Agreed, Im feeling like Im working for someone (spending all my free time farming=working) or even worse, wasting real money here (in CS cases)...

gaming is suppose to be fun and relaxing...if you turn it into a job then maybe it's time for you to quit....game is not suppose to be easy either, if it were easy then it becomes boring and pointless...I would love to see more quests at higher levels...80+ because i refuse to fc my way to high level

aceloc

Ezmerallda - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have been playing this game for almost 3 years and loved it till now. Those new bosses are so stupid.... All u did is **** half pwi off with that ****. All you people think is MONEY of which i even gave u some mine now ashamed to admit.... I WONT BE DOING THAT AGAIN. Work so hard get where I am just so PWI can **** everything up. PWI so greedy cant even have a decent sale these days except there totally rip off packs ..... Cant even have good orb sale. TO PERFECT WORLD FIX THIS FAIL **** IM FIXING RAGEQUIT AND WONT BE BAK

How did you do the bosses on level 1?

tweakz

Decent sale = pwi is greedy
No good sales = pwi is greedy

Go run a corporation in the interest of shareholders and not be called greedy.

Demon_troll - Harshlands

i already quit the game because it was not playable for me, i always die and get laughed at, even if i got higher leveled armor before, i still got wtf pwned cuz armor for archers and sins are bad, and the good ones that increase aps and damage costs the most money which really sucks. the gms can't even fix the damn avatars on forum shows how much of bull **** they into. now that bh100 becomes even more hard, i may as well forget about leveling to 100 cuz it is way too pointless... so much for the money cards from bh100... now i really won't come back on pwi again... i'm poor, can't make money anyhow, no one squads with me unless i pay them... i should have deleted this character but **** it... i already uninstalled this stupid game.

Licancura - Archosaur

lordmot wrote: »

Guess maybe that means that the other half of players are happy with the changes? You know, the half that gets left behind in Nirvy, TT, etc. The half that had to learn their toons to have a hope of surviving when they do get in a squad. The wonderfulness of these changes became clear to me last night when I saw the WC "Looking for a caster for Aba, pm me."

All in all, I'm quite happy with this mini-expansion.

So true. Some OPs that use to sell solo runs of everything, have been asking for barbs, and venos! b:victory

Quilue - Sanctuary

EIvemage - Dreamweaver wrote: »

and now with this update they made it completely clear. give us your money or GTFO THIS GAME!. the new bhs are not possible without decent gears, which is hardly possible to get without csing (especially now, where so many ppl are so strong it will take a lifetime to get to a point where you can compete with them). i assume the new instance will require awesome gear aswell...

just take this as an opportunity to quit, like ill do.. had a great time with this game not gonna deny that.. unfortunately i also spent a lot of money haha but im not gonna cry over it, think i got a lot from it;) but i dont wanna spend 1000 dollars just to keep up with all the new gears.

edit: i think 1000 dollars is nowhere close enough:P i dont wanna spend 10,000 dollars just to compete

Why do you have to compete with "them?" Who's them? You just need enough gear to PvE and socialize...honestly the people I've run these new instances with didn't need any better gear than they already had. You should've had some time to acquire gear now, be it Nirvana, R8, or even R9. You don't need "awesome gear"...outdated 2nd cast gear works...and you don't need to spend 1000 dollars...Gold is farmeable. Refines can be done without orbs up to +7 or even +8. Grind some mobs for DQP so you can get refine aids. This new instance even gives free pills, and you get base pills anyway. How can this get any easier as far as PvE is concerned?

God forbid this game actually needs some playtime invested into it if you don't want to CS. Really what were you expecting? When the server was young, full TT90 with Blinding Radiance xbow was worth 40m for the first lv 90s because of how much a ***** AE was to farm at the time, that's 400 gold at the time. Good luck trying to shard anything decent back then too. That would've come from straight combining from average shards unless you had the gear to farm WBs. PvP is expensive yes...but PvE is easier than ever before. The "harder" bosses are not any harder than before considering what circumstances the players were in back then. Some were farming for TT70, 80, 90, 99 - all without genies - think about how many hours players had to sink for that. Now they practically give away PvE gear.

asgoliath

Ezmerallda - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have been playing this game for almost 3 years and loved it till now. Those new bosses are so stupid.... All u did is **** half pwi off with that ****. All you people think is MONEY of which i even gave u some mine now ashamed to admit.... I WONT BE DOING THAT AGAIN. Work so hard get where I am just so PWI can **** everything up. PWI so greedy cant even have a decent sale these days except there totally rip off packs ..... Cant even have good orb sale. TO PERFECT WORLD FIX THIS FAIL **** IM FIXING RAGEQUIT AND WONT BE BAK

Game is kinda ruined for the past 2 years.....

Vyvyan - Dreamweaver

Another troll post from asgoliath.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Vyvyan - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Another troll post from asgoliath.

You have no idea what a troll is, do you?

Ms_Mystic - Heavens Tear

I am starting to like the newest update. So many people disappeared that it now feels like a private server. The lag time has improved a lot. b:chuckle

Suranda - Sanctuary

Best update ever. I pratically live in morai.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

new EU is a lot of fun
reason to do a full warsong.
cutting down on the solo sin farmed and making things more squad based.
all good things

the problem comes from people being so used to not playing in groups, or building squads to match instances that when it is suddenly hoisted upon them, they think the game is broken.

im not even mad that i cant solo aba/sot on my sin anymore.

Tremblewith - Heavens Tear

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

new EU is a lot of fun
reason to do a full warsong.
cutting down on the solo sin farmed and making things more squad based.
all good things

the problem comes from people being so used to not playing in groups, or building squads to match instances that when it is suddenly hoisted upon them, they think the game is broken.

im not even mad that i cant solo aba/sot on my sin anymore.

Also, people who are new to the game find themselves doing the new BHs and what not, with their average gear. A squad of average gear players might find things quite difficult. If you put yourself in a noob's shoes, how would they make coin and gear nowadays? Beg for Nirvana runs by other people who have merchanted or cash-shopped.

Ultimately, two options:
-Merchant 24/7 on an alt account and separate client
-Cash shop

_Petal_ - Harshlands

Demon_troll - Harshlands wrote: »

i already quit the game because it was not playable for me, i always die and get laughed at, even if i got higher leveled armor before, i still got wtf pwned cuz armor for archers and sins are bad, and the good ones that increase aps and damage costs the most money which really sucks. the gms can't even fix the damn avatars on forum shows how much of bull **** they into. now that bh100 becomes even more hard, i may as well forget about leveling to 100 cuz it is way too pointless... so much for the money cards from bh100... now i really won't come back on pwi again... i'm poor, can't make money anyhow, no one squads with me unless i pay them... i should have deleted this character but **** it... i already uninstalled this stupid game.

BH 100 isn't hard if you learned your class. Which, obviously, you didn't. I'm personally giggling while squads of Catalysts try and do things like these new instances and fall on their faces.

It took me TWO years to hit 100, on a PSYCHIC---a class constantly overlooked in PvE. Right now as we speak I'm working my face off to get full Nirvana 2nd cast.

If I can do it, anybody can.

Quilue - Sanctuary

It's Demon_Troll...just let it go.

bearyflair

_Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »

BH 100 isn't hard if you learned your class.

I agree with that, ppl are so damn used to just APS everything to death that they forgot how to use their skills. Now they're getting facerolled by the new bosses and getting angry. Like the saying goes: Slow and steady wins the race.