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HAHAH xDLongknife - Harshlands wrote: »Ok Dendra if you can make a post that isn't as long as a chapter of a book, I'll give you a dollar.
He's overall knowledge of the class is legit.TheDendra - Harshlands wrote: »There are several reasons to the lack of good TWs on pwi:
1. Game is dictated by $$$, not the hours you put into practice/farming.
2. Players don't have balls to compete, they just want to be winners by default so they all join Catalyst.
3. It seems impossible to unite the remaining r9 forces of pwi because their egos prefer to get stomped by Catalyst and pretend as if it's not a shameful loss.
4. There is no individual with desire to create a semi-pro team.
5. Catalyst aren't primarily here to compete, they're here to run a business or whatever their agenda is.
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1. Game is dictated by $$$, not the hours you put into practice/farming.
I'm willing to bet that pwi was a fun game to play at some point, but nowadays? Sins made pve look like a joke, killing bosses in five seconds that would usually take five or more minutes for an entire squad to kill.
So the pve is poorly designed and balanced, why? Because pwi doesn't give a sh*t bout it any more - it's all about stock value, they don't care if you are happy or not. It's ridiculous that for one endgame r9 char in this game you could afford nearly a decade of playing WoW - and this game is shadow of a shadow of a shadow of WoW's shadow in terms of content.
Whether you like it or not, fact is pwi is just looking for last possible ways to extract money from you before this game dies completely. Even before this game is over, they're already doing the same sh*t in another game and selling differently named **** to same type of fools.
2. Players don't have balls to compete, they just want to be winners by default so they all join Catalyst.
Only a handful of the players in pwi have the balls, hand speed potential, willpower and brains to succeed in a competitive gaming environment. You need way too many qualities to become a good gamer, in pwi you just need one or two, in most cases just one - $$$.
Now I can understand Catalyst is sticking to its own courtyard and running its business, what I can't understand is all the pu$$ies who went to Catalyst because they got tired of losing.
Well geez, if ya all don't like losing, let's all join one f**ing faction so nobody will ever beat us...and oh ya, well we kinda won't have anyone to beat too but that doesn't matter as long as we are winners!
That's kind of the modern mentality - back in the day and before those days, you only had three freaking medals, if you don't make it, you didn't make it - nowadays, suddenly everybody is supposed to earn a medal, even if they finish the competition in 25th place.
That's how many of the successfully selling new games work - they make everybody winners, so everybody feels good about themselves. I don't know, maybe because gaming is supposed to be a fantasy world and sports an actual real life competition, maybe that's why ppl feel entitled to being winners no matter how lazy they are.
3. It seems impossible to unite the remaining r9 forces of pwi because their egos prefer to get stomped by Catalyst and pretend as if it's not a shameful loss
Maybe it's not shameful losing to Catalyst, but the way you carry yourself through that loss and do nothing is. It looks to me as if the server has given up, even though there is enough people out there to give Catalyst a good fight, they're all happier avoiding the military life and just enjoying a calm life on their lil private farm.
Sometimes you hear people lashing out at Catalyst and blaming them for the server being dead - well here is a question for you, are you ready to dedicate your pwi gaming to competing? Are you ready to show up for every TW prepared, show up sober and focused, show up willing to do your job instead of going into rpk berserk mode because you're r9 and that makes you so cool?
People are not willing to give up their cute ranks in different factions, they are not willing to give up on feeling special, they feel like they're entitled to special treatment. So naturally a proposition of having all these guys merge into one faction and actually do something is scary - it means they'd actually have to shed their false egoistic shells and it means they'd actually have to take this game seriously instead of just chilling and hiding behind others - because after all, what can one r9 do against a whole Catalyst, he did his best but it's the other people's fault for the inevitable loss.
4. There is no individual with desire to create a semi-pro team.
Bringing down Catalyst would be very simple - all the people out there spending tens of thousands of dollars on gearing up alts just because they got nothing better to do - how about starting your own team and rewarding players for their skill level, dedication, competitive drive, etc.
It's really simple as that - in a game far more competitive than pwi, or any other game for that matter, one man did the same thing. There were 12 or more strong teams struggling to reach the top and then this guy started paying players on his team.
That team soon became notorious because "paying people was lame" at that time, but it also changed the competition level, it brought it to the next level and that's exactly what it takes to beat Catalyst - bringing the game to the next level because you ****** can't beat them by following their steps.
So yeah, it's kinda obvious nobody will ever beat Catalyst - if you people prefer to be lazy losers, there's nothing more that can be done. There are plenty more games out there which will offer fun and competitive environment and after all - there is also pw vendetta, a server which nullifies gear disadvantages and offers you pure pvp fun - but funny enough, I hear the same losers from pwi calling that game fake and how it's boring to play on a server where everybody has endgame gear - after all it's way more fun farming in a game that doesn't support farming and/or bashing r8 ppl with r9 gear because hey, that makes you look pro!
5. Catalyst aren't here to compete, they're here to run a business or whatever their agenda is.
It's like Real Madrid buying every possible good player available out there and then yelling at other football clubs - aww c'mon, give us a good match, this is getting boring!
Fair enough as pointed out already, that's Catalyst's choice and it's up to others to deal with it. Obviously there is one problem with that - it is virtually impossible to find a way to match Catalyst nowadays.
To follow up on Real Madrid comparison - it's as if Madrid has won god knows how many Finals and what not, attracted all the good sponsors and the remaining field is a bunch of small football clubs struggling to make a living.
Sure, even if they somehow united all of their best players into one great team to try and challenge Madrid, problem is Madrid is financially light years away from them so even if by some miracle this new team can compete with Madrid, what's stopping them from simply buying good players and ****** up the balance between teams again?
So it's a very simple crossroads - if you built Catalyst and don't have desire to leave it for the sake of finding competition, retire from the game and find competition elsewhere.
If you're one of those late hoppers on the hype train, joining Catalyst when it was already crushing everything - well GJ coward and make that a double GJ for hiding behind Catalyst to this day, if fingers should be pointed at anyone in Catalyst then it's the likes of you.
Besides retiring from the game, the other option is to split Catalyst, go join weaker factions - imagine how fun TWs would be if we had several equally strong factions on the server? So don't complain at the lack of competition when your primary goal isn't to compete but to attract all the power, hold the lands and power up your 10th char to r9 or god knows what that income is used for.
PWI is full of greedy people and until someone is willing to leave their comfort zone, things won't change. I wouldn't primarily blame Catalyst for the crappy server situation even though they caused it, because after all you can't blame someone for finding a smart way to dominate the server - it's kind of silly to blame someone for abusing something that was available to everybody, just like it would be possible now for a group of heavy cash shoppers to create a super competitive faction and crush Catalyst because people would bust their balls for a faction that pays them to play in TWs.0 -
TheDendra - Harshlands wrote: »There are several reasons to the lack of good TWs on pwi:
1. Game is dictated by $$$, not the hours you put into practice/farming.
2. Players don't have balls to compete, they just want to be winners by default so they all join Catalyst.
3. It seems impossible to unite the remaining r9 forces of pwi because their egos prefer to get stomped by Catalyst and pretend as if it's not a shameful loss.
4. There is no individual with desire to create a semi-pro team.
5. Catalyst aren't primarily here to compete, they're here to run a business or whatever their agenda is.
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1. Game is dictated by $$$, not the hours you put into practice/farming.
I'm willing to bet that pwi was a fun game to play at some point, but nowadays? Sins made pve look like a joke, killing bosses in five seconds that would usually take five or more minutes for an entire squad to kill.
So the pve is poorly designed and balanced, why? Because pwi doesn't give a sh*t bout it any more - it's all about stock value, they don't care if you are happy or not. It's ridiculous that for one endgame r9 char in this game you could afford nearly a decade of playing WoW - and this game is shadow of a shadow of a shadow of WoW's shadow in terms of content.
Whether you like it or not, fact is pwi is just looking for last possible ways to extract money from you before this game dies completely. Even before this game is over, they're already doing the same sh*t in another game and selling differently named **** to same type of fools.
2. Players don't have balls to compete, they just want to be winners by default so they all join Catalyst.
Only a handful of the players in pwi have the balls, hand speed potential, willpower and brains to succeed in a competitive gaming environment. You need way too many qualities to become a good gamer, in pwi you just need one or two, in most cases just one - $$$.
Now I can understand Catalyst is sticking to its own courtyard and running its business, what I can't understand is all the pu$$ies who went to Catalyst because they got tired of losing.
Well geez, if ya all don't like losing, let's all join one f**ing faction so nobody will ever beat us...and oh ya, well we kinda won't have anyone to beat too but that doesn't matter as long as we are winners!
That's kind of the modern mentality - back in the day and before those days, you only had three freaking medals, if you don't make it, you didn't make it - nowadays, suddenly everybody is supposed to earn a medal, even if they finish the competition in 25th place.
That's how many of the successfully selling new games work - they make everybody winners, so everybody feels good about themselves. I don't know, maybe because gaming is supposed to be a fantasy world and sports an actual real life competition, maybe that's why ppl feel entitled to being winners no matter how lazy they are.
3. It seems impossible to unite the remaining r9 forces of pwi because their egos prefer to get stomped by Catalyst and pretend as if it's not a shameful loss
Maybe it's not shameful losing to Catalyst, but the way you carry yourself through that loss and do nothing is. It looks to me as if the server has given up, even though there is enough people out there to give Catalyst a good fight, they're all happier avoiding the military life and just enjoying a calm life on their lil private farm.
Sometimes you hear people lashing out at Catalyst and blaming them for the server being dead - well here is a question for you, are you ready to dedicate your pwi gaming to competing? Are you ready to show up for every TW prepared, show up sober and focused, show up willing to do your job instead of going into rpk berserk mode because you're r9 and that makes you so cool?
People are not willing to give up their cute ranks in different factions, they are not willing to give up on feeling special, they feel like they're entitled to special treatment. So naturally a proposition of having all these guys merge into one faction and actually do something is scary - it means they'd actually have to shed their false egoistic shells and it means they'd actually have to take this game seriously instead of just chilling and hiding behind others - because after all, what can one r9 do against a whole Catalyst, he did his best but it's the other people's fault for the inevitable loss.
4. There is no individual with desire to create a semi-pro team.
Bringing down Catalyst would be very simple - all the people out there spending tens of thousands of dollars on gearing up alts just because they got nothing better to do - how about starting your own team and rewarding players for their skill level, dedication, competitive drive, etc.
It's really simple as that - in a game far more competitive than pwi, or any other game for that matter, one man did the same thing. There were 12 or more strong teams struggling to reach the top and then this guy started paying players on his team.
That team soon became notorious because "paying people was lame" at that time, but it also changed the competition level, it brought it to the next level and that's exactly what it takes to beat Catalyst - bringing the game to the next level because you ****** can't beat them by following their steps.
So yeah, it's kinda obvious nobody will ever beat Catalyst - if you people prefer to be lazy losers, there's nothing more that can be done. There are plenty more games out there which will offer fun and competitive environment and after all - there is also pw vendetta, a server which nullifies gear disadvantages and offers you pure pvp fun - but funny enough, I hear the same losers from pwi calling that game fake and how it's boring to play on a server where everybody has endgame gear - after all it's way more fun farming in a game that doesn't support farming and/or bashing r8 ppl with r9 gear because hey, that makes you look pro!
5. Catalyst aren't here to compete, they're here to run a business or whatever their agenda is.
It's like Real Madrid buying every possible good player available out there and then yelling at other football clubs - aww c'mon, give us a good match, this is getting boring!
Fair enough as pointed out already, that's Catalyst's choice and it's up to others to deal with it. Obviously there is one problem with that - it is virtually impossible to find a way to match Catalyst nowadays.
To follow up on Real Madrid comparison - it's as if Madrid has won god knows how many Finals and what not, attracted all the good sponsors and the remaining field is a bunch of small football clubs struggling to make a living.
Sure, even if they somehow united all of their best players into one great team to try and challenge Madrid, problem is Madrid is financially light years away from them so even if by some miracle this new team can compete with Madrid, what's stopping them from simply buying good players and ****** up the balance between teams again?
So it's a very simple crossroads - if you built Catalyst and don't have desire to leave it for the sake of finding competition, retire from the game and find competition elsewhere.
If you're one of those late hoppers on the hype train, joining Catalyst when it was already crushing everything - well GJ coward and make that a double GJ for hiding behind Catalyst to this day, if fingers should be pointed at anyone in Catalyst then it's the likes of you.
Besides retiring from the game, the other option is to split Catalyst, go join weaker factions - imagine how fun TWs would be if we had several equally strong factions on the server? So don't complain at the lack of competition when your primary goal isn't to compete but to attract all the power, hold the lands and power up your 10th char to r9 or god knows what that income is used for.
PWI is full of greedy people and until someone is willing to leave their comfort zone, things won't change. I wouldn't primarily blame Catalyst for the crappy server situation even though they caused it, because after all you can't blame someone for finding a smart way to dominate the server - it's kind of silly to blame someone for abusing something that was available to everybody, just like it would be possible now for a group of heavy cash shoppers to create a super competitive faction and crush Catalyst because people would bust their balls for a faction that pays them to play in TWs.
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How do you expect the server to win when the 75% or so of the server look up to Catalyst as their dream wonderland.
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Long *** post o_O
However yeah, a good chunk of why I quit is buried in there. Game was / could be great, but PWE ****ed it and then our server bent over and let Catalyst win. Gratz to Catalyst but Zzzz for the TWs. All that was left for kylin was newbs who we crushed and battles we could not win. Neither were fun so I don't know how Catalyst manages to not get bored shtless.I've quit excluding TW for my faction. But I still hang around to help out those who still enjoy the game under PWEs horrific handling and to have fun in the forums. b:cute
#Shame about PWEs absolutely craptastic handling of the goons glitching. Remember kids, there's no punishment for breaking the rules here!#
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Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Ok Dendra if you can make a post that isn't as long as a chapter of a book, I'll give you a dollar.
Not possible, I'm not programmed to write short - and have been offered more than monetary rewards if succeeding in doing so
Anyway, long story short - to beat current Catalyst somebody would have to start a semi-pro faction, aka instead of spending $50k on gearing alts, spend $5k on gearing faction.
Other option is Catalyst shuffling around to balance out the teams.
None of these scenarios will occur, so yep we're stuck
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John_Smith - Harshlands wrote: »All that was left for kylin was newbs who we crushed and battles we could not win.
Pretty sure you guys could have some pretty legit TWs with Absinthe if you'd actually attack each other. ijs.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Why are we still talking as if catalyst is stronger than CJr?
Dumass and kylin have the right idea, the rest of you are just ***.I AGOREY0 -
really though how many people still actively play HL0
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Tbh my own opinion, so far many factions get stack, and dear GM put that all same day too, CrimsonJr get 3 def stack wars since couple week same day never 2 different days, same with Kylin we got many time stacked def wars same days.
If Catalyst bids on Kylin and get to ask their precious Crimson ally to dont attack Kylin, maybe we might show.
Want fun TW? why not do Cata vs Crimson than? That will be fun.
The top faction Catalyst is allied with the (supposly) second top faction, the third top faction is Catalyst alt faction, so faction #4 and below are blamed for not fun TW?
Its a game to have have fun **** ur ally with Crimson and go have fun with them.
I respect Catalyst, they are for me the top faction of all the time in HL for TW, they got undefeated even with be ganked by 20-30 Tw same weekend, they support in PvP and people can QQ about C$ R9 or w/e idc they are just hater and jealous to dont be in Catalyst so they try to trash talk.
People say Kylin is dead, everywhere people trash talk Kylin is dead, say Kylin suck, why peole get so offended that a dead faction who suck attack a ''small'' faction (CRJ)?
Catalyst is Powerfull and are bored of no show TW, why they dont go attack people who will show?
People say Kylin suck to ''gank'' CRJ, When Catalyst and their ally Crimson ''gank'' Kylin in what its different? The 2 top factions allied on server gank a ''dead'' faction and QQ no fun TW? Just lol on that.
Catalyst could have fun TW they choose volontary to dont have it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Woneo - Lost City wrote: »really though how many people still actively play HL
I DOOOO.....no I can't say that with a straight face, I play pokemon more often than PW...though I've been pretty active the last few days.
Q_Q failed my third Nuzlocke, playing normaly now. John want some black exclusives?I A lot of people0 -
alguien me puede decir por q mi personaje sale invisible igual q los moustros por fa0
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Me encanta comer fresas para el desayuno[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I don't even have Black or White yet. Kinda stuck on catching Lugia in Soul Silver because my team is so underleveled, lol. >:[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Tbh my own opinion, so far many factions get stack, and dear GM put that all same day too, CrimsonJr get 3 def stack wars since couple week same day never 2 different days, same with Kylin we got many time stacked def wars same days.
If Catalyst bids on Kylin and get to ask their precious Crimson ally to dont attack Kylin, maybe we might show.
Want fun TW? why not do Cata vs Crimson than? That will be fun.
The top faction Catalyst is allied with the (supposly) second top faction, the third top faction is Catalyst alt faction, so faction #4 and below are blamed for not fun TW?
Its a game to have have fun **** ur ally with Crimson and go have fun with them.
I respect Catalyst, they are for me the top faction of all the time in HL for TW, they got undefeated even with be ganked by 20-30 Tw same weekend, they support in PvP and people can QQ about C$ R9 or w/e idc they are just hater and jealous to dont be in Catalyst so they try to trash talk.
People say Kylin is dead, everywhere people trash talk Kylin is dead, say Kylin suck, why peole get so offended that a dead faction who suck attack a ''small'' faction (CRJ)?
Catalyst is Powerfull and are bored of no show TW, why they dont go attack people who will show?
People say Kylin suck to ''gank'' CRJ, When Catalyst and their ally Crimson ''gank'' Kylin in what its different? The 2 top factions allied on server gank a ''dead'' faction and QQ no fun TW? Just lol on that.
Catalyst could have fun TW they choose volontary to dont have it.
I think it has more to do with the fact that, even if kylin were to take all the CJr lands, kylin is effectively screwed. Too many enemies. So all they're doing is DELAYING the inevitable instead of facing their problems, in the meantime, causing trouble for other factions that have a better position.
It's sorta like how.....wasn't there some big guild that took that tide born territory (insanity has it currently) when watchers had defended it for like half the TW season? People commented on that because wtf, watchers was having fun and the guild who took the land was too powerful to have fun TWs based on who had bid on it in the past.
It'd be the same if dumass were to bid imperia, IMO. At this point, imperia put up one heck of a fight; hell, I'm willing to bet CJr has had the most fun since the map reset with IMPERIA being a close second. IMPERIA definitely earned that land; everyone that still has land just leave them alone and let them have fun with it fighting other guilds that are landless.
No worries though, I actually wouldn't be surprised if CJr beat kylin, based on what I've heard. Really, as I said, it just has more to do with third rate guilds bickering among themselves and completely failing to recognize that it's crunch time and it's time to face the music. Plan for THAT and stop delaying. I mean I'll be honest here: several factions approached me about a merge and then I liked the idea and even asked some others what they thought of one. In the end, no merge ever occurred because all the factions were convinced they would be fine and/or were in a better state than CrimsonJr despite having less land and poorer attendance.
Humility is perhaps something that people on our server should learn. I mean open up the map right now and look at the guilds on it. How many of those are fairly new? I see only CrimsonJr and IMPERIA, and possibly DEMACIA depending on how you judge it. (new name, but it's composed of the exact same people that cata has, so...) Now how many of those old guilds would you say have significantly improved since last TW season? I say only Mayhem. And yet these old flags don't die, and continue to bicker amongst each other as to who's the new "brave champion to conquer the server."
But maybe kylin just doesn't give a damn about that and just wants fun TW, hence they bid. That'd make sense too. Cata and Eoris then show frustration simply because, while that may work out for kylin and others, it doesn't work out for cata, cause yeah, that assures history repeats itself.I AGOREY0 -
Oh yea i agree competely the more fun TW i've done was CrimsonJr one's.
I've done TW in Zulu, Crimson, CrimsonJr and Kylin now (recent thought) and the funniest one was in CrimsonJr for sure. I didnt had fun TW in Kylin (yet).
I just want stat that people say Kylin suck and is dead but they QQ that Kylin dont attack Catalyst or big faction.
Many factions do what they do to get lands, is it bad or good? Yes and know, the point of Tw is to get land ofc, but i think if people want fun they can have.
Kylin had 4 choice bids, on the 4 factions people would found something to say bad, if Kylin was bids on Catalyst or Crimson people will call us stupid to bids on faction we cannot win, on abs well tbh i think they are still ally but i dont know so what rest? CrimsonJr and if we wasnt bids a faction people will say we are dead and carebear, so people will always find something to QQ. Kylin can bids on w/e they want i dont personnally care, i do my job and show TW that's all.
Same for CrimsonJr you could bids Catalyst and ill come.
Maybe Kylin is **** or not, prolly abs too and other faction, but do that mean they should not TW cause they are not the top 1 faction?
And i dont try to defend Ky cause im in, i defended Cata too in some post in some thread where people QQ about C$ and im not in.
P.s: would be hard to merge CRJ we always full at 200 people XD too popular ^-^[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »Pretty sure you guys could have some pretty legit TWs with Absinthe if you'd actually attack each other. ijs.
This is true. I did raise my objections about allying with them and so did a few others, but they were put down after the overworld no-PKing allies rule was dissolved (Which Absinthe couldn't keep for ****. Can't control their members at all >_>).
I can see however why not however, it would be yet another faction ganking the **** out of us. Buttt with no chance of winning the map anyway I'd probably have gone "*** it" and hate targetted them for decent/potentially fun TW anyway. But that's just me, and I'm a Wizard. Noone listens to Wizards b:sadI've quit excluding TW for my faction. But I still hang around to help out those who still enjoy the game under PWEs horrific handling and to have fun in the forums. b:cute
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Oh yea i agree competely the more fun TW i've done was CrimsonJr one's.
I've done TW in Zulu, Crimson, CrimsonJr and Kylin now (recent thought) and the funniest one was in CrimsonJr for sure. I didnt had fun TW in Kylin (yet).
I just want stat that people say Kylin suck and is dead but they QQ that Kylin dont attack Catalyst or big faction.
Many factions do what they do to get lands, is it bad or good? Yes and know, the point of Tw is to get land ofc, but i think if people want fun they can have.
Kylin had 4 choice bids, on the 4 factions people would found something to say bad, if Kylin was bids on Catalyst or Crimson people will call us stupid to bids on faction we cannot win, on abs well tbh i think they are still ally but i dont know so what rest? CrimsonJr and if we wasnt bids a faction people will say we are dead and carebear, so people will always find something to QQ. Kylin can bids on w/e they want i dont personnally care, i do my job and show TW that's all.
Same for CrimsonJr you could bids Catalyst and ill come.
Maybe Kylin is **** or not, prolly abs too and other faction, but do that mean they should not TW cause they are not the top 1 faction?
And i dont try to defend Ky cause im in, i defended Cata too in some post in some thread where people QQ about C$ and im not in.
P.s: would be hard to merge CRJ we always full at 200 people XD too popular ^-^
My Point was....
To any kylin or absinthe member who hates catalyst or crimson and wants them gone, but ALSO supports decisions to attack dumass or afterlife or crimsonjr or whoever, you're hindering progress and basically wanting to have your cake and eat it too.
Look at the map. I dunno about you, but I see crimson headed straight towards absinthe, and we've seen crimson and cata tear the **** outta kylin. Those two are effectively hated by crimson and catalyst, and both, to my knowledge, are nowhere near being in shape to even give either a run for their money. I'm sorry, but I don't see how kylin or absinthe can be a big-time faction at this point. They're both directly in sight of crimson and cata, which means the moment they try to build up, they're just gonna get focused down.
But they don't accept this. They continue to try, and in the process, since they can't take on crimson or catalyst, they end up attacking guilds that are more their caliber. The problem is, some of those guilds have a more promising chance of being able to build up. What ends up happening is that kylin and absinthe are doing EXACTLY what Crimson and Cata are doing to them: they're hindering the growth of new guilds by attacking them and trying to kill them before they even develop and get strong enough to tangle with kylin or absinthe. The result is that come time to face the music and fight crimson or catalyst, we do NOT have new guilds with new ideas ready to give it s shot, but rather the same old guilds that have failed countless times in the past. Why? Because they're refusing to let go of former glory.
You want to see the map change? Go support Mayhem, go support IMPERIA, go support CrimsonJr. Support young guilds or support those that have significantly improved since last TW season. I think it's absolute madness that we just have the same faces on the map every time, falling into the same rankings they do every time...then come map reset, all of those guilds stand up on a soapbox and say "come to me if you want TW and want hope of taking on crimson or Cata." Every single one of the old guilds that failed will say this each new season with no sign of improvement.
And then they bicker amongst themselves. They miss "crunch time" and continue fighting amongst themselves until crimson and cata come, and then lo and behold they have an easy time on clean up duty.
It's fine if kylin is bidding us just because they want fun and don't care about opposing crimson or cata. I have my suspicion that's not the case, given that I've been in that guild before, but whatever. All I'm saying is I think it's nonsense for any of the third rate factions to complain about history repeating itself only for them to keep bidding on fellow third rate factions, desperately trying to cling onto a third place trophy that doesn't exist.I AGOREY0 -
oh yea ofc everyone hate Kylin prolly more than catalyst xD
And tbh i knew Kylin wasnt particulary love but i saw how much they are hated since im in xD
I personnally (i dunno about the other) dont even care about the faction we attack (well except crimsonjr tbh cause i love crimsonjr too) i dont always love the choice to attack that and that faction but im not leader its not my choice, sometimes i dont like it but i cant leave a faction everytime i dont agree on the choice of lead on bid.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »I don't even have Black or White yet. Kinda stuck on catching Lugia in Soul Silver because my team is so underleveled, lol. >:
I'm stuck grinding so I can catch Mewtwo in SS, but I got black cause I was missing newer stuff like DW, downside a lot of TMs aren't in Black/White and the UI annoys meI A lot of people0 -
It's a dead server, hell a dead game. There are bascially 2 "active" factions left, and beats me what keep those people playing as I cba to log outside of TW. Kylin can barely get 40 online for TW, and these aren't your organizes 40 people but about 50% random new players that I myself never even seen (k guess me not being on doesn't help for knowing these members), yet we easily roll all but two factions on the map. There's your prospective of TW strength of the rest of the server. We held off a Crimson push, with 25 people on def, and made them do a second while we took 50% off their crystal with 15 on offense with 3 catas, no assist, for lvl 2 land lolwut? How bad are you Crimson?
Asking people to do something about the TW on this dead game is like asking more people to be interested in baseball. Lolbaseball.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Cytte - Harshlands wrote: »I'm stuck grinding so I can catch Mewtwo in SS, but I got black cause I was missing newer stuff like DW, downside a lot of TMs aren't in Black/White and the UI annoys me
Black got a little too 3D for my liking, was kinda on the edge of been too much then I got to that fully 3D town and kinda stopped playing. Think im gona stick to squirting sudowoodos in crystalb:laugh
also whats up with every psy posting so big[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Dear EO,
I luvs choo I hope you were the one that was on
When I gave you the nurse black fashion for your
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TheDendra - Harshlands wrote: »There are several reasons to the lack of good TWs on pwi:
1. Game is dictated by $$$, not the hours you put into practice/farming.
2. Players don't have balls to compete, they just want to be winners by default so they all join Catalyst.
3. It seems impossible to unite the remaining r9 forces of pwi because their egos prefer to get stomped by Catalyst and pretend as if it's not a shameful loss.
4. There is no individual with desire to create a semi-pro team.
5. Catalyst aren't primarily here to compete, they're here to run a business or whatever their agenda is.
>>>>long version>>>>>
1. Game is dictated by $$$, not the hours you put into practice/farming.
I'm willing to bet that pwi was a fun game to play at some point, but nowadays? Sins made pve look like a joke, killing bosses in five seconds that would usually take five or more minutes for an entire squad to kill.
So the pve is poorly designed and balanced, why? Because pwi doesn't give a sh*t bout it any more - it's all about stock value, they don't care if you are happy or not. It's ridiculous that for one endgame r9 char in this game you could afford nearly a decade of playing WoW - and this game is shadow of a shadow of a shadow of WoW's shadow in terms of content.
Whether you like it or not, fact is pwi is just looking for last possible ways to extract money from you before this game dies completely. Even before this game is over, they're already doing the same sh*t in another game and selling differently named **** to same type of fools.
2. Players don't have balls to compete, they just want to be winners by default so they all join Catalyst.
Only a handful of the players in pwi have the balls, hand speed potential, willpower and brains to succeed in a competitive gaming environment. You need way too many qualities to become a good gamer, in pwi you just need one or two, in most cases just one - $$$.
Now I can understand Catalyst is sticking to its own courtyard and running its business, what I can't understand is all the pu$$ies who went to Catalyst because they got tired of losing.
Well geez, if ya all don't like losing, let's all join one f**ing faction so nobody will ever beat us...and oh ya, well we kinda won't have anyone to beat too but that doesn't matter as long as we are winners!
That's kind of the modern mentality - back in the day and before those days, you only had three freaking medals, if you don't make it, you didn't make it - nowadays, suddenly everybody is supposed to earn a medal, even if they finish the competition in 25th place.
That's how many of the successfully selling new games work - they make everybody winners, so everybody feels good about themselves. I don't know, maybe because gaming is supposed to be a fantasy world and sports an actual real life competition, maybe that's why ppl feel entitled to being winners no matter how lazy they are.
3. It seems impossible to unite the remaining r9 forces of pwi because their egos prefer to get stomped by Catalyst and pretend as if it's not a shameful loss
Maybe it's not shameful losing to Catalyst, but the way you carry yourself through that loss and do nothing is. It looks to me as if the server has given up, even though there is enough people out there to give Catalyst a good fight, they're all happier avoiding the military life and just enjoying a calm life on their lil private farm.
Sometimes you hear people lashing out at Catalyst and blaming them for the server being dead - well here is a question for you, are you ready to dedicate your pwi gaming to competing? Are you ready to show up for every TW prepared, show up sober and focused, show up willing to do your job instead of going into rpk berserk mode because you're r9 and that makes you so cool?
People are not willing to give up their cute ranks in different factions, they are not willing to give up on feeling special, they feel like they're entitled to special treatment. So naturally a proposition of having all these guys merge into one faction and actually do something is scary - it means they'd actually have to shed their false egoistic shells and it means they'd actually have to take this game seriously instead of just chilling and hiding behind others - because after all, what can one r9 do against a whole Catalyst, he did his best but it's the other people's fault for the inevitable loss.
4. There is no individual with desire to create a semi-pro team.
Bringing down Catalyst would be very simple - all the people out there spending tens of thousands of dollars on gearing up alts just because they got nothing better to do - how about starting your own team and rewarding players for their skill level, dedication, competitive drive, etc.
It's really simple as that - in a game far more competitive than pwi, or any other game for that matter, one man did the same thing. There were 12 or more strong teams struggling to reach the top and then this guy started paying players on his team.
That team soon became notorious because "paying people was lame" at that time, but it also changed the competition level, it brought it to the next level and that's exactly what it takes to beat Catalyst - bringing the game to the next level because you ****** can't beat them by following their steps.
So yeah, it's kinda obvious nobody will ever beat Catalyst - if you people prefer to be lazy losers, there's nothing more that can be done. There are plenty more games out there which will offer fun and competitive environment and after all - there is also pw vendetta, a server which nullifies gear disadvantages and offers you pure pvp fun - but funny enough, I hear the same losers from pwi calling that game fake and how it's boring to play on a server where everybody has endgame gear - after all it's way more fun farming in a game that doesn't support farming and/or bashing r8 ppl with r9 gear because hey, that makes you look pro!
5. Catalyst aren't here to compete, they're here to run a business or whatever their agenda is.
It's like Real Madrid buying every possible good player available out there and then yelling at other football clubs - aww c'mon, give us a good match, this is getting boring!
Fair enough as pointed out already, that's Catalyst's choice and it's up to others to deal with it. Obviously there is one problem with that - it is virtually impossible to find a way to match Catalyst nowadays.
To follow up on Real Madrid comparison - it's as if Madrid has won god knows how many Finals and what not, attracted all the good sponsors and the remaining field is a bunch of small football clubs struggling to make a living.
Sure, even if they somehow united all of their best players into one great team to try and challenge Madrid, problem is Madrid is financially light years away from them so even if by some miracle this new team can compete with Madrid, what's stopping them from simply buying good players and ****** up the balance between teams again?
So it's a very simple crossroads - if you built Catalyst and don't have desire to leave it for the sake of finding competition, retire from the game and find competition elsewhere.
If you're one of those late hoppers on the hype train, joining Catalyst when it was already crushing everything - well GJ coward and make that a double GJ for hiding behind Catalyst to this day, if fingers should be pointed at anyone in Catalyst then it's the likes of you.
Besides retiring from the game, the other option is to split Catalyst, go join weaker factions - imagine how fun TWs would be if we had several equally strong factions on the server? So don't complain at the lack of competition when your primary goal isn't to compete but to attract all the power, hold the lands and power up your 10th char to r9 or god knows what that income is used for.
PWI is full of greedy people and until someone is willing to leave their comfort zone, things won't change. I wouldn't primarily blame Catalyst for the crappy server situation even though they caused it, because after all you can't blame someone for finding a smart way to dominate the server - it's kind of silly to blame someone for abusing something that was available to everybody, just like it would be possible now for a group of heavy cash shoppers to create a super competitive faction and crush Catalyst because people would bust their balls for a faction that pays them to play in TWs.
I only read like, half of it, and it was amazing, but then I got bored so I stopped reading and just assumed the 2nd half was as awesome as the first half.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »I only read like, half of it, and it was amazing, but then I got bored so I stopped reading and just assumed the 2nd half was as awesome as the first half.
Dont worry I hear he's releasing it in paperback next month and I've heard nothing but good reviews.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »I only read like, half of it, and it was amazing, but then I got bored so I stopped reading and just assumed the 2nd half was as awesome as the first half.
He should write the story of harshlands, or better yet wytche should. I wanna read it from an underdog's PoV. b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »It's a dead server, hell a dead game. There are bascially 2 "active" factions left, and beats me what keep those people playing as I cba to log outside of TW. Kylin can barely get 40 online for TW, and these aren't your organizes 40 people but about 50% random new players that I myself never even seen (k guess me not being on doesn't help for knowing these members), yet we easily roll all but two factions on the map. There's your prospective of TW strength of the rest of the server. We held off a Crimson push, with 25 people on def, and made them do a second while we took 50% off their crystal with 15 on offense with 3 catas, no assist, for lvl 2 land lolwut? How bad are you Crimson?
Asking people to do something about the TW on this dead game is like asking more people to be interested in baseball. Lolbaseball.
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SpazzMcAps - Harshlands wrote: »Join crimsonjrb:surrender
I'm in CrimsonJr.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm in CrimsonJr.
maybe not anymore Mayka rage kick kylin people from crimsonjr xD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »We held off a Crimson push, with 25 people on def, and made them do a second while we took 50% off their crystal with 15 on offense with 3 catas, no assist, for lvl 2 land lolwut? How bad are you Crimson?
Asking people to do something about the TW on this dead game is like asking more people to be interested in baseball. Lolbaseball.
We was less than 40.
And HEY baseball is fun.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »maybe not anymore Mayka rage kick kylin people from crimsonjr xD
lmaoo b:laugh0 -
Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »maybe not anymore Mayka rage kick kylin people from crimsonjr xD
Oh, oh well.
Lolbaseball.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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