Moving in Stealth as an archer

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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    unceuncerave wrote: »
    I generally hit
    Full JoSD Robes around 6-8ks.
    Full JoSD LA around 4-6k
    Full JoSD HA around 2-3k

    >_> I dunno what issue you might be having. And no i'm not rolling any DoTs

    Really now... lets use your 4-6k damage on on full jade r9. a full jade r9 la armor would have ~80 def levels. a full dot r9 can get around 120 attack levels including blessing. so you are looking at a ~40 attack level advantage. a +12 r9 bow with 500+ dex and barb buffed can pull ~26k high end p.atk... so thats 36k p.atk factoring in attack levels. factor out 75% pvp reduction and at least 60% armor p.def of an unbuffed la... you get 3.6k damage.

    a full r9, full dot, +12 weapon archer can barely manage 4k non-crit on a unbuffed light armor target under normal circumstances. i am +12 r9 and been known to crit 10k+ on both full r9 la and ha. but i'll be the last one to claim that i'll hit 4k on full jade r9s. and here you are with "a mixture of TT99 and nirvana" doing 4-6k on a full jade r9s. maybe you forgot to mention the army of venos behind you amping/armor break/whatever else venos do.

    CritCat - Archosaur wrote: »
    Wtf you smoking, I hit 2kish normal hits full r9 DoT vs Full R9 JoSD wizard and maybe 3-4k hits on them if I crit on my archerb:shocked

    venos man... venos... gotta remember those pesky venos. they are the downfall of full jade r9s.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf
  • unceuncerave
    unceuncerave Posts: 471 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Really now... lets use your 4-6k damage on on full jade r9. a full jade r9 la armor would have ~80 def levels. a full dot r9 can get around 120 attack levels including blessing. so you are looking at a ~40 attack level advantage. a +12 r9 bow with 500+ dex and barb buffed can pull ~26k high end p.atk... so thats 36k p.atk factoring in attack levels. factor out 75% pvp reduction and at least 60% armor p.def of an unbuffed la... you get 3.6k damage.

    a full r9, full dot, +12 weapon archer can barely manage 4k non-crit on a unbuffed light armor target under normal circumstances. i am +12 r9 and been known to crit 10k+ on both full r9 la and ha. but i'll be the last one to claim that i'll hit 4k on full jade r9s. and here you are with "a mixture of TT99 and nirvana" doing 4-6k on a full jade r9s. maybe you forgot to mention the army of venos behind you amping/armor break/whatever else venos do.



    venos man... venos... gotta remember those pesky venos. they are the downfall of full jade r9s.

    I don't recall saying I was using this gear setup? You're mistaking what someone else made a comment of for the example used.
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Ehh.. call me when archers start facerolling full R9 characters while wearing a mixture of TT99 and nirvana.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    unceuncerave wrote: »
    I don't recall saying I was using this gear setup? You're mistaking what someone else made a comment of for the example used.

    i am using the highest damage per shot archer set up... feel free to share what gear you have that allow you to hit 4-6k normal circumstance on full jades la.

    and for some reason it showed you as kawaiijen on ht for a second here. if that is true... i would like to see you hit 4-6k on me (who doesn't even have a single jade in his armor).

    edit: i am coming to a conclusion that jades and refines on sanc doesn't work like jades and refines on ht. it seems every one with full jades and +12 full r9 armor is getting rolled by a mixture of +5, tt99, and nirv.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf
  • unceuncerave
    unceuncerave Posts: 471 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i am using the highest damage per shot archer set up... feel free to share what gear you have that allow you to hit 4-6k normal circumstance on full jades la.

    and for some reason it showed you as kawaiijen on ht for a second here. if that is true... i would like to see you hit 4-6k on me (who doesn't even have a single jade in his armor).

    edit: i am coming to a conclusion that jades and refines on sanc doesn't work like jades and refines on ht. it seems every one with full jades and +12 full r9 armor is getting rolled by a mixture of +5, tt99, and nirv.

    Rofl don't even put me in the same group as him/her.

    http://www.pwcalc.com/5cf9352f55a8c2e2

    Don't forget another 30~50% from Basebuff or Tidal Wafer.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] for GD Onion 2012 b:victory
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    CritCat - Archosaur wrote: »
    Wtf you smoking, I hit 2kish normal hits full r9 DoT vs Full R9 JoSD wizard and maybe 3-4k hits on them if I crit on my archerb:shocked

    I don't know what he's smoking but I'd like some of it. Maybe he's playing full buffs vs. none? o.o
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    a full jade r9 la armor would have ~80 def levels. a full dot r9 can get around 120 attack levels including blessing. so you are looking at a ~40 attack level advantage. a +12 r9 bow with 500+ dex and barb buffed can pull ~26k high end p.atk
    unceuncerave wrote: »
    http://www.pwcalc.com/5cf9352f55a8c2e2

    your link showered a 25,651 max p.atk... vs my 26k off my head number. 81 def level vs my 80 def. 105 attack level (135 w/ blessing). vs my 120 attack level. so thats a 54 attack level advantage. you'll still be hard pressed to hit 4k non-crit under regular conditions against BUFF-LESS targets.
    unceuncerave wrote: »
    Don't forget another 30~50% from Basebuff or Tidal Wafer

    there is spark damage, base buff, tidal wafer, barb buff... too bad you can't stack all of them. and are you seriously going to assume you have every buff in the book... fighting against buffless group. and i thought you are a mixed of tt99/nirv... still waiting for you to explain how you manage to hit an 81 def level, 77% p.def reduction, 20.1k hp archer (by your own calculation) for 4-6k regularly.
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't know what he's smoking but I'd like some of it. Maybe he's playing full buffs vs. none? o.o

    its not even remotely possible unbuffed... the r9 gotta be amp/cursed and possibly even armor broken to have that happen on a regular basis. but hey... if you manage to get some of that... make sure you get enough to go around. would make tw a lot easier. if a nirv can hit 6k on a jade r9... i'll be nuking at least 10k+ blind folded.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf
  • Dai_Viper - Archosaur
    Dai_Viper - Archosaur Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't know what he's smoking but I'd like some of it. Maybe he's playing full buffs vs. none? o.o
    It seems like u need blessing in pwv
    Gear info: pwcalc.com/ca03cfa26484422eb:victory
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Dai_Viper - Archosaur wrote: »
    It seems like u need blessing in pwv

    I don't play PWV. Nice try. If you were trying to look ridiculous.

    I'll let you know when I get a blessing on a game I don't even play.

    As if the official version of this game isn't crappy enough....
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  • Dai_Viper - Archosaur
    Dai_Viper - Archosaur Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't play PWV. Nice try. If you were trying to look ridiculous.

    I'll let you know when I get a blessing on a game I don't even play.

    As if the official version of this game isn't crappy enough....

    Opps. I wanted to quote critcat, not u
    Sorry
    Gear info: pwcalc.com/ca03cfa26484422eb:victory
  • Anfisa - Lost City
    Anfisa - Lost City Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Since we're talking about veno harems and +5 tt99, how's the wife Kiyo? b:cute
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Anfisa - Lost City wrote: »
    Since we're talking about veno harems and +5 tt99, how's the wife Kiyo? b:cute

    Its wives... I am up to two veno wives now. One demon to armor break and one sage to amp. Still working on getting a few more so I can one shot that 40k hp barb like how everyone seems to be able to do. But anyways... she's doing ok.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf
  • Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary
    Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Does anyone know if you can stealth while flying? Has anyone tried to accelerate while stealthed? Just a thought
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  • Demon_troll - Harshlands
    Demon_troll - Harshlands Posts: 622 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    i rather roll sin than to use this piece of &%&* skill
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you can stealth while flying? Has anyone tried to accelerate while stealthed? Just a thought

    You can and nope, accelerate doesn't help.
  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Demon_troll - Harshlands wrote: »
    i rather roll sin than to use this piece of &%&* skill

    we dont care
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Its wives... I am up to two veno wives now. One demon to armor break and one sage to amp. Still working on getting a few more so I can one shot that 40k hp barb like how everyone seems to be able to do. But anyways... she's doing ok.

    You also need a cleric wife to purify you to prevent from getting one shot by other people with TT99+5 and veno harems.
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    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
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  • swogboiboi
    swogboiboi Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I'm unstoppable when this is on http://bit.ly/H9mD9n
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    So... who else ISN'T clicking that link? b:chuckle
  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    truekossy wrote: »
    So... who else ISN'T clicking that link? b:chuckle

    What is behind it ?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    <--- MALE Veno ..... Moved to G W 2 or maybe not completely , don't know ...... PW addiction
    {That TT xbow chain is one that describes someone's bowel movements after having too much spicy food. A loud **** (Thundercrack), then a burning sensation (Flash Fire), followed by an explosion of multi-colored poo-confetti (Blinding Radiance). Excellent...} By Quilue
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    swogboiboi wrote: »
    I'm unstoppable when this is on http://bit.ly/H9mD9n

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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I had a pretty epic stealth use in TW yesterday.

    My faction no-showed one of the attacking factions that day. Well they almost noshowed it.. I was waiting near the HQ in stealth building up 4 sparks. After a few minutes the opposing faction floods in and surrounds the crystal.

    Little did they know the danger they were in! Just when they get comfortable I give them a surprise triple-sparked IG'd barrage. My damage log got pretty flooded from that. I was even able to restealth and telestone out of there in time for the next TW b:victory
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I had a pretty epic stealth use in TW yesterday.

    My faction no-showed one of the attacking factions that day. Well they almost noshowed it.. I was waiting near the HQ in stealth building up 4 sparks. After a few minutes the opposing faction floods in and surrounds the crystal.

    Little did they know the danger they were in! Just when they get comfortable I give them a surprise triple-sparked IG'd barrage. My damage log got pretty flooded from that. I was even able to restealth and telestone out of there in time for the next TW b:victory

    epic! *laughing irl*
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  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    The secret art of ambush , congratulations b:thanks
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    <--- MALE Veno ..... Moved to G W 2 or maybe not completely , don't know ...... PW addiction
    {That TT xbow chain is one that describes someone's bowel movements after having too much spicy food. A loud **** (Thundercrack), then a burning sensation (Flash Fire), followed by an explosion of multi-colored poo-confetti (Blinding Radiance). Excellent...} By Quilue
  • Geshwur - Raging Tide
    Geshwur - Raging Tide Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I don't feel like scrolling through all the pages, but i know archers have a skill that voids movement debuffs, AND there's apoth for it... Do those or Purify affect the movement, or is it like chill of the deep which no matter what reduces APS?
    Current Gears
    pwcalc.com/90f636550cbd5beb
  • Aviron - Harshlands
    Aviron - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you can stealth while flying? Has anyone tried to accelerate while stealthed? Just a thought

    You are able to fall at normal speed while in stealth which can be helpful if you are fighting in the air.

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