[Maintenance + Patch Discussion] 3-28-2012

Aubree - Dreamweaver

Is maint late? Im sleepy, I want set my shop and go to bed.

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Is maint late? Im sleepy, I want set my shop and go to bed.

Maintenance is about done...

And to all HT ppl: Sell me some light collored Savant's Dress will yah... I don't wanna end up having to take the expensive way (boutique) again... b:scorn

WnbTank - Archosaur

Ulquiorraa__ - Raging Tide wrote: »

2x drops is doubling the drop rate for all stuff drops from bosses or mobs .

Which means in nirvana , drop rate is 100% 1 box . in 2x u get 2 boxs .

in TT , normal drop of a gold mat- for example from a certain boss is 4.5% , in 2x will be 9% .

Still doesn't means u will get 9/100 runs 9 golds . The drop rate have more complicated equations .

You misunderstand me. There are different number of drop counts with each mob/boss. To achieve 2x drops there is 2 simple ways of doing it that I can think of. Either by doubling all the of the counts(So much work, lol) or adding some global piece of code that will have drop count to take place twice with each thing you kill. I think latter is simpler to do and is likely it`s been done.

And actually you are wrong bout the drops. The fundamental drop probabilities arent affected or 10 antennas dropping would be impossible as Dog only rolls his drop count for antennas 5 times. If the fundamental probabilities were affected, you`d more likely get 5 constantly when it normally is 2-4. The ticket example was perfect, you simply get another roll for stuff.

Your gold example is wrong on most levels. If the 4.5% chance holds true - it will be 4.5% with 2x drops on but the roll for that drop will be done twice, resulting into 9% chance of getting the gold from boss. You are correct that it doesnt mean you`ll get 9 golds outta 100 bosses but it`s the average scenario. 100 rolls is bit low for probabilities to balance themselves outta freak results but 1k might be closer of 90 already. But if I used 1k samples as data, I`d be laughed at by anybody whom understands anything bout statistics. There is no "more complicated equations" than the random factor dear, which is by my understanding run by random number generator.

Stonk - Dreamweaver

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

You misunderstand me. There are different number of drop counts with each mob/boss. To achieve 2x drops there is 2 simple ways of doing it that I can think of. Either by doubling all the of the counts(So much work, lol) or adding some global piece of code that will have drop count to take place twice with each thing you kill. I think latter is simpler to do and is likely it`s been done.

And actually you are wrong bout the drops. The fundamental drop probabilities arent affected or 10 antennas dropping would be impossible as Dog only rolls his drop count for antennas 5 times. If the fundamental probabilities were affected, you`d more likely get 5 constantly when it normally is 2-4. The ticket example was perfect, you simply get another roll for stuff.

Your gold example is wrong on most levels. If the 4.5% chance holds true - it will be 4.5% with 2x drops on but the roll for that drop will be done twice, resulting into 9% chance of getting the gold from boss. You are correct that it doesnt mean you`ll get 9 golds outta 100 bosses but it`s the average scenario. 100 rolls is bit low for probabilities to balance themselves outta freak results but 1k might be closer of 90 already. But if I used 1k samples as data, I`d be laughed at by anybody whom understands anything bout statistics. There is no "more complicated equations" than the random factor dear, which is by my understanding run by random number generator.

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Aubree - Dreamweaver

games up

WnbTank - Archosaur

Stonk - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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I too would hate it if simple maths made my head fuzzy. But there might be some who are actually curious and capable of understanding the droprates. But yeah, logging on and starting my farming.

lilpun

is the game really up and im the only one that can't login??? and can some1 plz help me and tell me what i need to do plz

Nahleanna - Sanctuary

genotypist wrote: »

PWI Version 624 Patch Notes
Released March 29, 2012

Localization
Updated Shining Pill's tooltip with correct effect duration.
Updated the Divine Revival Scroll's tooltip with correct functionality.

i don't get it why the hell can't you fix SP already are you all just that damm stupid or what

Traz - Dreamweaver

Nahleanna - Sanctuary wrote: »

i don't get it why the hell can't you fix SP already are you all just that damm stupid or what

They can't fix what they are not allowed to, go on the chinese forums and ***** about it to them.

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

Nahleanna - Sanctuary wrote: »

i don't get it why the hell can't you fix SP already are you all just that damm stupid or what

It's not even a big deal right now... I've bin in SP recently with my alt and everyone's perfectly following the rules... The place is deserted and no one's PKing in there... If you come across someone who keeps PKing you while doing something just report them... Other then that it will take a while before PWE will receive the proper patch...