First New G13 Daggers

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  • AshenSkies - Heavens Tear
    AshenSkies - Heavens Tear Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And do what?

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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    How would the new daggers fair with the complete (good) set and this pendant? http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/34444 it doesn't say it on the database but according to npc also has a slaying level of +5. How does the slaying levels work? Is it similar to attack/defense level except not in PvP?
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    How would the new daggers fair with the complete (good) set and this pendant? http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/34444 it doesn't say it on the database but according to npc also has a slaying level of +5. How does the slaying levels work? Is it similar to attack/defense level except not in PvP?

    Pretty much. They're a PvE only add-on, but work the same as attack/defense lvls. The beauty is that both systems stack with each other. So you can get a significant boost in PvE that might rival r9 in some areas.
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  • SteamyFish - Lost City
    SteamyFish - Lost City Posts: 188 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    edited February 2012
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  • Sltryder - Lost City
    Sltryder - Lost City Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Im a 4.0 sage Bm (5.0 with heel/genie) and i prefer using my 2nd cast NV hammers with GoF over my vana claws. only time i really use claws is bosses/NV and sometimes PVP but mainly its my hammers. so ill be looking for to these new PVE hammers to seeing how they coup
  • ntkn
    ntkn Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Pretty much. They're a PvE only add-on, but work the same as attack/defense lvls. The beauty is that both systems stack with each other. So you can get a significant boost in PvE that might rival r9 in some areas.

    there not exactly the same. from my understand the slaying levels add a bit less then atk lvls. like +50 slaying lvl is more like 42% atk to mobs only instead of 50% atk to everything.

    they do stack tho, but there still useless for anything other then PvE. at lvl 100+ ud mind as well go for rank stuff.
  • Minkis - Lost City
    Minkis - Lost City Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    ntkn wrote: »
    there not exactly the same. from my understand the slaying levels add a bit less then atk lvls. like +50 slaying lvl is more like 42% atk to mobs only instead of 50% atk to everything.

    they do stack tho, but there still useless for anything other then PvE. at lvl 100+ ud mind as well go for rank stuff.

    You know normal atk lvls work the same way as slaying levels. I think if you only doing PvE like my alt seeker you really dont need any thing ells.
  • Pyrogasm - Heavens Tear
    Pyrogasm - Heavens Tear Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Minkis - Lost City wrote: »
    I know, but on the forums there was a guy testing out the dmg of the new G12 and the
    Vana G13 daggers. I think this new daggers will out DD the vana daggers if its +10 on PVE mobs/bosses

    It has +50 atk lvls vs PVE so not sure if it will. Will need to do testing on it...

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  • BEASTisBOSS - Heavens Tear
    BEASTisBOSS - Heavens Tear Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    From calculations I found that these daggers will not out DD R9, unless you have the full set of gear. As for Nirvana, I think these daggers overpower the 1st stage daggers, then depending on your 2nd stage rolls, they may even out DD those.
  • sachelfunlol
    sachelfunlol Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Here is the thest I did with refines at +3 on silver frost in sp.
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1300361

    Now here is a test on one hit mob at 1k with them at +4
    Test was done with same interval gear Spark + Harmony + SS + Condensed Thorn + Bramble + Frenzy.
    The damage you can do will be relative to your build and stats, with me its 23 ATT LVL's and no Blessing. 106 STR 496 Dex.
    g12 +4 no sockets 4APS-> http://imgur.com/1IUbI
    G13 +10 2 x +75 5APS-> http://imgur.com/d42Jk
    R8 +11 x2 +75 4APS-> http://imgur.com/CpZv8

    This is the char sceen damage range for each dagger
    G12 -> 4372-5303
    G13 -> 8152-9675
    R8 -> 9113-12776

    In my original post I theorized the g12's could not out spike my R8 daggers, I am begining to rethink that. At the momment on my build that is 270k +/-(regular boss) under HF/Amp with same attack pattern listed above but without CT, but with a jones blessing. The new G12/13 daggers could very wel be superiour to G13 Nivrana / R8. The the G15's may or may not reach or even exceed G15/R9 spike damage, but never the less they will compete with them very easily.

    These daggers are perfect to farm your gear with for sure. It maybe PVE only but very impressive to say the least.

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  • Amsel - Sanctuary
    Amsel - Sanctuary Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    im very interested in these daggers, including the g15, but my only concern is that pwdatabase says its warding lvls, though when u got ur daggers it was slaying.


    g13 http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/33521

    g15 http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33529

    i hope this was a translation error Q.Q
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  • sachelfunlol
    sachelfunlol Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Amsel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    im very interested in these daggers, including the g15, but my only concern is that pwdatabase says its warding lvls, though when u got ur daggers it was slaying.


    g13 http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/33521

    g15 http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33529

    i hope this was a translation error Q.Q

    Yes i am thinking it is a error, as the 12's and 13's both have slaying, generally speaking def levels on a weapon other than a buff is quite odd, and would dimenish any reason to get them. Hooks would probaly be better is that was so b:chuckle. Cant wait to get them
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  • _Nerox_ - Dreamweaver
    _Nerox_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 753 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Att lvl stack with Slaying lvl?
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  • sachelfunlol
    sachelfunlol Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    _Nerox_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Att lvl stack with Slaying lvl?

    Yes the calc is independant of att levels, so they do stack, a slaying lvl is around .86% per lvl increase
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