New Mystic Skills For Mystic Vs New Skills For Other Clases

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear

That could work! I'll round them up on HT and plan the assault on Raging Tides within the hour, you do the same with Sanc b:mischievous

Xainou - Sanctuary

Hahaha Melvin
Why aren't we on the same server xD

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear

Because fate only bought us together with Mystics b:kiss

Brillance - Raging Tide

Whens the wedding...guys! Im so glad PWI now allows 'happy' marriages! xD

Caydon - Heavens Tear

Okay, I didn't read every single post. But what I gathered, some are feeling a bit affected by the choice of skills - OP and a few others - hence the thread.

Okay, what I think is this - this expansion was geared at balancing PVP. Looking at TW reset, and our skills, it shows that the Devs want us to be more involved in PVP/TW. Mystics skills are great, AOE Resurrection buff, the soul-sucking thing (I forgot the name), where you get to leech off other people's healing - that's amazing.

It allows you to continue DD-ing or focus on healing other players, and sealing players, or setting fire to your enemies. The magic atk buff also means that you're better at caster nirvana, and also in PVE.

I think it's a matter of perspective? Come on guys, mystics are awesome.

-Edit: Sorry, I didn't see that the thread was discussing other issues from pages 3-4. My post is targeted to OP.

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear

Caydon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

the soul-sucking thing (I forgot the name), where you get to leech off other people's healing - that's amazing.

It allows you to continue DD-ing or focus on healing other players, and sealing players, or setting fire to your enemies. The magic atk buff also means that you're better at caster nirvana, and also in PVE.

Well I bought that skill and was instantly disappointed with it (not that I have given it much of a chance yet) 2 sparks to cast and it lasts around 15 seconds if I remember rightly, surely if this was used in a TW/pvp situation it wouldn't actually be that helpful?

Caydon - Heavens Tear

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Well I bought that skill and was instantly disappointed with it (not that I have given it much of a chance yet) 2 sparks to cast and it lasts around 15 seconds if I remember rightly, surely if this was used in a TW/pvp situation it wouldn't actually be that helpful?

Melvin, I think it's a matter of personal choice. Yes, for 2 sparks and 15 seconds, it doesn't seem worth it, but in PVP, when people are getting one shotted left and right (cause of R9), that few seconds might be critical in saving your life.

Plus with mystic's versatile role, it probably means that your survival would ensure that others in your squad continue getting buffs, heals and you are able to DD and lyse plants, etc.

I've not TW-ed before, on any toon, so I'm merely speculating. But I'm sure that there would be some merits to it, but timing is going to be critical due to the short duration.

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear

Caydon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Melvin, I think it's a matter of personal choice. Yes, for 2 sparks and 15 seconds, it doesn't seem worth it, but in PVP, when people are getting one shotted left and right (cause of R9), that few seconds might be critical in saving your life.

Transfusion

Redirects healing (including health charms) received by the targeted enemy to the caster of this spell for 15 seconds

If you're getting one shotted by anyone this would be no help at all since the skill would first of all would need to be active on the player, then it would only be effective if the player is spam healing/being spam healed or receives a charm tick.

So really it would be effective on clerics (since we all know they spam heal themselves during pvp) a mystic who uses healing plants/skills in pvp or a psy who has just cast Bubble. Not really helpful in a one shot situation. That's what I believe anyway, I could be wrong but we shall see when it get tested more I suppose.

Caydon - Heavens Tear

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Transfusion

Redirects healing (including health charms) received by the targeted enemy to the caster of this spell for 15 seconds

If you're getting one shotted by anyone this would be no help at all since the skill would first of all would need to be active on the player, then it would only be effective if the player is spam healing/being spam healed or receives a charm tick.

So really it would be effective on clerics (since we all know they spam heal themselves during pvp) a mystic who uses healing plants/skills in pvp or a psy who has just cast Bubble. Not really helpful in a one shot situation. That's what I believe anyway, I could be wrong but we shall see when it get tested more I suppose.

My apologies.

I think I was reading an inaccurate account of the skill.

Based on what you've shared, yes, now it DOES seem worthless. LOL. But mhm, perhaps those experienced in TW can share their experience.

Looks at prominent TW mystics in HT server. The only one I know is Mayatheia. She's awesome.

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear

I think you kinda thought it was like a heal leech where you absorb HP from the enemy. That would be awesome! Its easy to be mistaken with it since the actual animation is like Transference.

But hey that's what the forums are for, sharing information and experiences

Burnout - Harshlands

The skill has no practical applications in PVP nor in TW. There are just too many other more useful things you can do with 2 sparks. For one, just laying down a vital herb will probably give you more survivability than casting this thing. Using Thicket for an AOE 8 second CC is far more valuable in TW.

Why leech 30% of 1 char's healing when you can just thicket the cleric and stop his healing altogether, as well as taking a large chunk of his hp bar and preventing him from damaging you? (not to mention, it can also catch others in an AOE).

It might be worth using if it was one spark, but even then it's barely worth it.

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear

Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »

The skill has no practical applications in PVP nor in TW. There are just too many other more useful things you can do with 2 sparks. For one, just laying down a vital herb will probably give you more survivability than casting this thing. Using Thicket for an AOE 8 second CC is far more valuable in TW.

It might be worth using if it was one spark, but even then it's barely worth it.

That was what was going through my head when I learnt it and tried it out, 2 sparks are way more useful for other combos. I also learnt the level 80 barb skill AoE today and its pretty much as useless as the Mystic one, 2 sparks for an AoE that hit 1.2k on level 20 mobs when my slam skill that is level 1 hit 6k on the same mobs. I think the devs need to rework these skills.

I doubt that the skill would still be useful even it did only cost 1 spark, the only time I would think to use it is on the mobs in Abaddon that HP leech but even then the 2 sparks could still be used better.

MoonsMyst - Heavens Tear

i didnt even bother to learn lvl 80 mystic skil, waste of prestige and influence

Caydon - Heavens Tear

Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »

The skill has no practical applications in PVP nor in TW. There are just too many other more useful things you can do with 2 sparks. For one, just laying down a vital herb will probably give you more survivability than casting this thing. Using Thicket for an AOE 8 second CC is far more valuable in TW.

Why leech 30% of 1 char's healing when you can just thicket the cleric and stop his healing altogether, as well as taking a large chunk of his hp bar and preventing him from damaging you? (not to mention, it can also catch others in an AOE).

It might be worth using if it was one spark, but even then it's barely worth it.

Duly noted. I'll not purchase that skill book, if I ever finish getting my mystic to where I want it to be before choosing orders and so on.

Thank you for sharing your information Burnout (one of the best merchants, if I do say so myself). (:

Caydon - Heavens Tear

MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I think you kinda thought it was like a heal leech where you absorb HP from the enemy. That would be awesome! Its easy to be mistaken with it since the actual animation is like Transference.

But hey that's what the forums are for, sharing information and experiences

THIS. +1

LOL I really thought it was a leech kinda thing. Apparently not. But with Burnout's confirmation, I think we now know that it wasn't a worth investment. I'm sorry that you already made the purchase MrMelvin.

Slightly off topic, is your skin really GREEN in game? /bimbo moment

AlysonRose - Heavens Tear

I'm curious if it works but giving you a % of their healing, or by taking it.

For example if it redirects 30% of a 100hp heal, does that mean I get healed 30hp and they get healed 70? Or do they still get healed for 100 and I get 30 out of thin air?

Aside from trolling veno pets and Clerics I don't see a practical application for the skill so far. I just used my psy to get it today since i'm in corona. I haven't used it on a hp leech mob yet, but I wonder if it would work on a mob at all. I used it on a blob outside arch just to see what it looked like (green link) but idk if it actually works on npcs. With all the soulforce/lvl calculations inherent in it I doubt they made an equivalent system to govern it based on a mob's stats.

Theoretically I could use it on a mob with a nasty hp leech attack, to increase my survivability and reduce the amount of hp they get back per attack for a whopping 15 seconds.

The only mobs that come to mind are the ladywraiths in unicorn forest, but those aren't really a problem.

So...yeah its moderately useful for helping take out a veno pet or getting free heals dueling a cleric b:surrender

Xaner - Dreamweaver

Rawr!!

LividLemur - Dreamweaver

Dunno, Transfusion sounds interesting against cata barbs. Fat HP cows getting spam healed with a short time window to take them down when purged/between heals n ticks.

wouldn't waste the sparks on a cleric..

HardTimes - Lost City

LividLemur - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Dunno, Transfusion sounds interesting against cata barbs. Fat HP cows getting spam healed with a short time window to take them down when purged/between heals n ticks.

wouldn't waste the sparks on a cleric..

lol over all i dont like this skill myself, vary few moments when it can be used and the chi could always be better used on other skills. but you do have a great idea to use it on cata barbs in tw. they will not live long if they are not able to heal good.

thanks for your great idea b:victory

Mechsiao - Sanctuary

Transfusion has great potential. The lvl 80 version lasts too short to be effective but the upgraded version will be awesome. Transfusion cant be sparked off, debuff transferred nor purified so its quite an epic leech.

VoItaire - Harshlands

AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm curious if it works but giving you a % of their healing, or by taking it.

For example if it redirects 30% of a 100hp heal, does that mean I get healed 30hp and they get healed 70? Or do they still get healed for 100 and I get 30 out of thin air?

Aside from trolling veno pets and Clerics I don't see a practical application for the skill so far. I just used my psy to get it today since i'm in corona. I haven't used it on a hp leech mob yet, but I wonder if it would work on a mob at all. I used it on a blob outside arch just to see what it looked like (green link) but idk if it actually works on npcs. With all the soulforce/lvl calculations inherent in it I doubt they made an equivalent system to govern it based on a mob's stats.

Theoretically I could use it on a mob with a nasty hp leech attack, to increase my survivability and reduce the amount of hp they get back per attack for a whopping 15 seconds.

The only mobs that come to mind are the ladywraiths in unicorn forest, but those aren't really a problem.

So...yeah its moderately useful for helping take out a veno pet or getting free heals dueling a cleric b:surrender

To my understanding it was that it steals a % of their healing, thus making charmed pot spammers or IH stackers easier to take down.