Sins DO NOT need a nerf

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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »
    I just smell butthurtness because sins replaced you. Move with the game or get left behind. BP itself isn't OP, it's the +10 and +12 weapons that are. Same way that a +5 wiz or +5 psy is not OP but a +12 wiz or +12 psy is OP.

    I have a sin myself, but facts is facts. The fact that a single melee DD can put all other class roles out of business is OP. None of the other classes managed that, not even bms. Because they are balanced, and sins are not. You can't dispute that, so now you're reduced to babbling about refines and name calling. If you can't properly defend your argument, then you've failed to prove your claim. And BP itself is plenty OP, that's why a 9x sin with barely any aps can solo frost with only like +3 refines. Even venos needed hercs (which are expensive) back in the day to solo things.
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  • Hurrdurr - Lothranis
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis Posts: 1,468 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I have a sin myself, but facts is facts. The fact that a single melee DD can put all other class roles out of business is OP. None of the other classes managed that, not even bms. Because they are balanced, and sins are not. You can't dispute that, so now you're reduced to babbling about refines and name calling. If you can't properly defend your argument, then you've failed to prove your claim. And BP itself is plenty OP, that's why a 9x sin with barely any aps can solo frost with only like +3 refines. Even venos needed hercs (which are expensive) back in the day to solo things.

    As I said, BP is not a self buff. Should we QQ about mystic buff being OP too? Or maybe barb buffs that increases HP and p.attack, oh and those cleric buffs that increases defences and m.attack!

    A sin's tradeoff for being able to shine in PvE is being squishy at low refines, even at high refines they still suck as they're LA.

    No one cares about 'back in the day'. Back in the day venos were OP, let's carry on QQing about them solo farming squad instances.
  • _Petal_ - Harshlands
    _Petal_ - Harshlands Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »
    I just smell butthurtness because sins replaced you. Move with the game or get left behind. BP itself isn't OP, it's the +10 and +12 weapons that are. Same way that a +5 wiz or +5 psy is not OP but a +12 wiz or +12 psy is OP.

    The Wizards, Venomancers, and Psychics can't stealth past mobs in order to easily get past a boss, NOR do they have a (n effective) self heal that replaces a cleric entirely.

    Tell me something, how does it feel to have the same brain capacity as a pineapple? It must be fascinating being that completely braindead....

    Btw: Venos hardly solo instances anymore. Why bother when you can have an aneurism the boss to death with a hurp-a-durp, broken class?
    They made fun of me because I wasn't a R8 Psychic...and then came third cast. It's not funny anymore.

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  • Hurrdurr - Lothranis
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis Posts: 1,468 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    The Wizards, Venomancers, and Psychics can't stealth past mobs in order to easily get past a boss, NOR do they have a (n effective) self heal that replaces a cleric entirely.

    Tell me something, how does it feel to have the same brain capacity as a pineapple? It must be fascinating being that completely braindead....

    Btw: Venos hardly solo instances anymore. Why bother when you can have an aneurism the boss to death with a hurp-a-durp, broken class?

    Sin's BP is less effective than a wizard's or psychic's heal on a mage/archer. How does it feel to have failed at trolling?

    Try harder b:bye
  • _Petal_ - Harshlands
    _Petal_ - Harshlands Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »
    Sin's BP is less effective than a wizard's or psychic's heal on a mage/archer.

    ....Bloodpaint doesn't work on mages OR archers....

    And I think I would know how a Psychic's heal works....mine's sage. -_-;
    They made fun of me because I wasn't a R8 Psychic...and then came third cast. It's not funny anymore.

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  • FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »
    Sin's BP is less effective than a wizard's or psychic's heal on a mage/archer. How does it feel to have failed at trolling?

    Try harder b:bye

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  • Hurrdurr - Lothranis
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis Posts: 1,468 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    ....Bloodpaint doesn't work on mages OR archers....

    And I think I would know how a Psychic's heal works....mine's sage. -_-;

    And you're saying I have a brain capacity of the size of a pineapple.

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  • LadyLeona - Dreamweaver
    LadyLeona - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I agree. Sins doesn't need a nerf. They DESERVE a nerf. Had a priest geared to kill physical damagers. It was 8/10 victory against bms and wbs. 10/10 losses against sins...
  • FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    LadyLeona - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I agree. Sins doesn't need a nerf. They DESERVE a nerf. Had a priest geared to kill physical damagers. It was 8/10 victory against bms and wbs. 10/10 losses against sins...

    Why do they deserve a nerf?

    It's the protections, instant chi and freeze/stun skills that kinda ruin the PvP combined with stealth.
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  • Hurrdurr - Lothranis
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis Posts: 1,468 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why do they deserve a nerf?

    It's the protections, instant chi and freeze/stun skills that kinda ruin the PvP combined with stealth.

    R9 barbs with +12 JoSD who are basically unkillable while one shotting with zerk crit killed PK more

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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    LadyLeona - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I agree. Sins doesn't need a nerf. They DESERVE a nerf. Had a priest geared to kill physical damagers. It was 8/10 victory against bms and wbs. 10/10 losses against sins...

    What's a priest?
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    What's a priest?

    The dude's who sing Pan Gu's gospel. They're all over the place.

    How could you've missed them?

    Damn noob.

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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The dude's who sing Pan Gu's gospel. They're all over the place.

    How could you've missed them?

    Damn noob.

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    Pan Gu's gospel, oh no I haven't heard it, b:shocked

    Am I going to Hell now

    Or are they extremists and going to pk me where ever I go b:cry
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »
    R9 barbs with +12 JoSD who are basically unkillable while one shotting with zerk crit killed PK more

    b:kiss

    Rank 9 is OP, on any class. Saying well "rank 9" this or that is pointless. It speaks nothing of a specific player or classes' ability. The fact that you even feel the need to bring in gear that costs 1,500 dollars to take down a class that gets by on gear that costs far, far less than that only demonstrates how OP that class is when handled by the right person.
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  • FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »
    R9 barbs with +12 JoSD who are basically unkillable while one shotting with zerk crit killed PK more

    b:kiss

    All you do is talking about gears. Come with skills or gtfo b:bye
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  • LyuKang - Sanctuary
    LyuKang - Sanctuary Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    "Troll logic, you're doing it right" b:victory
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  • Prophete - Dreamweaver
    Prophete - Dreamweaver Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    This troll is awsome.
  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Divine_Death - Harshlands wrote: »
    Right... throw me a BM, or any class for that matter (maybe your main?), with equal gear as my HA gimped Sin, +5 armor, +10 weapon, and I'll show you how not OP my Sin is.

    Oke, I accept this challenge. :<
    I bet I could kill it.
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  • Safeng - Sanctuary
    Safeng - Sanctuary Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    The only things that need a nerf are the QQ and the trolls on those forums...
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  • Hurrdurr - Lothranis
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis Posts: 1,468 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Rank 9 is OP, on any class. Saying well "rank 9" this or that is pointless. It speaks nothing of a specific player or classes' ability. The fact that you even feel the need to bring in gear that costs 1,500 dollars to take down a class that gets by on gear that costs far, far less than that only demonstrates how OP that class is when handled by the right person.

    So you agree that sin is not OP but other things like R9 is?
    FkinMaltaMan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    All you do is talking about gears. Come with skills or gtfo b:bye

    Your class doesn't even require skill to play

    b:bye
  • KuiXing - Harshlands
    KuiXing - Harshlands Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    /Facepalm, plz go play a real class then come back.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »
    So you agree that sin is not OP but other things like R9 is?



    Your class doesn't even require skill to play

    b:bye

    No, i'm saying that sins are OP, and rank 9 is OP. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    should gm make sin cost hmm let see cost 600 bucks and hell its cheap and then i would not mind the broken class as it did cost dollars otherwise its ****ing broken if it cost 0 dollars.
  • LyuKang - Sanctuary
    LyuKang - Sanctuary Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »

    Your class doesn't even require skill to play

    b:bye

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  • Woneo - Lost City
    Woneo - Lost City Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    what the **** is this ****.
  • Hellsarcher - Harshlands
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    hm I do not find regular assassins to be OP in pvp when i'm charmed, but w/o charm not much of a chance. Assassin aoe with zerk dags are deadly btw..earthen rift with chill of the deep + any other debuff is 6k+ non crit w/o zerk. Add zerk on you get 12k reg and with wold emblem on with zerk crit 25k+ easy. Hardest r9 sin i've seen hit on r8 is 84k. =)
  • brazenbusboy
    brazenbusboy Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Interesting that most tier 3 factions won't accept any more new sins.
    Just some guy
  • BloodyThorns - Heavens Tear
    BloodyThorns - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sins DO NOT need a nerf, they aren't OP. I must make threads on forums arguing the opposite so I can keep owning n00bs in pk and pvp and being OP......wait..oh sh*t../sarcasm
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sins in 1v1 PVP are OP.

    Sins in TW are kinda... Useless. Got 5 or 10 well R9+10 properly sharded 102-105 sins, and you're set. Assuming they know what to do, that's all you really need.

    Sins in PVE are OP, but that isn't really what this is about...
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    100 Demon BM*/Barb
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    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
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  • krisnda
    krisnda Posts: 4,655 Community Moderator
    edited January 2012
    Safeng - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The only things that need a nerf are the QQ and the trolls on those forums...

    I agree, which is why I'll be closing this now.
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