No fun tw's something needs to be done
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IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »Hmm... thats very interesting, but sad at the same time. We are doing everything here to stop the dominating faction to take all the lands, but since our huge HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY CSing R9 faction decided to burn bridges with everyone, no one is working together anymore to kill off the dominant faction, but to kill off the backstabbers. So once they are off, (another 3 months max) our map will be full green, once again. b:shutup
Yeah, pretty much every faction on the map, other than the grey one, has attacked/stacked on Kylin (red) lands. No one really bother to stack Catalyst. As long as they keep attacking Kylin, they are satisfied.0 -
Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »Yeah, pretty much every faction on the map, other than the grey one, has attacked/stacked on Kylin (red) lands. No one really bother to stack Catalyst. As long as they keep attacking Kylin, they are satisfied.
So is it Kylins fault that everyone is attacking them or just the attitude of "for the f.ck of it?" And which faction is the silver one again?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »Hmm... thats very interesting, but sad at the same time. We are doing everything here to stop the dominating faction to take all the lands, but since our huge HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY CSing R9 faction decided to burn bridges with everyone, no one is working together anymore to kill off the dominant faction, but to kill off the backstabbers. So once they are off, (another 3 months max) our map will be full green, once again. b:shutup
Well as I said earlier in this thread, personally? It was a conundruum of who's the lesser of two evils. Catalyst clings onto the server's leash with their life, even though they're basically bored senseless with the game. The downside is the same guild always wins, but the upside is that they're so busy playing OTHER games all the time, so they leave PK alone, meaning we get fun PK fights under Catalyst rule.
Valhalla on the other hand, until someone helped them out on Saturday, couldn't TW worth a f***ing darn. I'd list some of the lulzy mistakes they'd make but again, not sure I wanna help them yet. Even though they're inexperienced, they obviously have the greatest theoretical potential to fight Catalyst based on the sheer amount of r9 +12s alone. The problem with them taking over is that holy balls, these guys literally don't want to do ANYTHING but win. As I and Okeano have said before (and I'm pretty sure no one except Valhalla themselves would debate that they have a horrible habit of playing like this), Valhalla ruins PK by ganking r8 characters and weaker with a group of 5-6 r9s. Even if you decide to stay and try to kill ONE of them before the other 4-5 manage to kill you, the toolbag you're shooting at? He'll f***ing ironguard. They demand you waste ~50k ironguards on PK battles if you hope to kill even one, and a lot of them will just flat-out leave if you prove capable of beating them and they can't get backup to gank you with. This guild just ****s out money and does nothing but. If I remember correct, you can even see one of their members has ironguards on a friggin' hotkey in their recruitment video. Not sure, nor can I seem to find it. Maybe someone else who reads this can find it.
So yeah, it might not be a wise idea to help them learn to play so they can compete with Catalyst, and it seems the entire server was in agreement of this (until Saturday), and thus we let Catalyst take over without opposition for the time being as we milked the fun we could out of TW while we could.I
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IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »So is it Kylins fault that everyone is attacking them or just the attitude of "for the f.ck of it?" And which faction is the silver one again?
Idk. Kylin doesn't even PvP anymore, so we aren't pissing off people there like Zulu use to. And the only faction we initiated the bidding on was Crimson (green), the rest of them were always the one that bid on us first. We started out pretty weak when map reset, after losing majority of our members. I guess people thought they could beat us, not long after reset, but couldn't so they feel like they need to keep trying?
(Silver is Catalyst, the one with 50-60 well geared memebers, who's got the same core as Zulu, the faction that was one land short of taking the map before reset)0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Well as I said earlier in this thread, personally? It was a conundruum of who's the lesser of two evils. Catalyst clings onto the server's leash with their life, even though they're basically bored senseless with the game. The downside is the same guild always wins, but the upside is that they're so busy playing OTHER games all the time, so they leave PK alone, meaning we get fun PK fights under Catalyst rule.
Valhalla on the other hand, until someone helped them out on Saturday, couldn't TW worth a f***ing darn. I'd list some of the lulzy mistakes they'd make but again, not sure I wanna help them yet. Even though they're inexperienced, they obviously have the greatest theoretical potential to fight Catalyst based on the sheer amount of r9 +12s alone. The problem with them taking over is that holy balls, these guys literally don't want to do ANYTHING but win. As I and Okeano have said before (and I'm pretty sure no one except Valhalla themselves would debate that they have a horrible habit of playing like this), Valhalla ruins PK by ganking r8 characters and weaker with a group of 5-6 r9s. Even if you decide to stay and try to kill ONE of them before the other 4-5 manage to kill you, the toolbag you're shooting at? He'll f***ing ironguard. They demand you waste ~50k ironguards on PK battles if you hope to kill even one, and a lot of them will just flat-out leave if you prove capable of beating them and they can't get backup to gank you with. This guild just ****s out money and does nothing but. If I remember correct, you can even see one of their members has ironguards on a friggin' hotkey in their recruitment video. Not sure, nor can I seem to find it. Maybe someone else who reads this can find it.
So yeah, it might not be a wise idea to help them learn to play so they can compete with Catalyst, and it seems the entire server was in agreement of this (until Saturday), and thus we let Catalyst take over without opposition for the time being as we milked the fun we could out of TW while we could.
With what you said about the pk ganking, yeah I'm on a pve server (I regret) we always have the SAME people white named 24 effin 7, and its always the best geared people of the biggest factions.. So our dominant faction keeps to themselves but in PK they always have 8 to 10+ R9 +12 ganking and ruining everything, always wanting to "win" but with all the drama from the ex dominant, new CSing backstabbers, everyones attention is on them to view them as the bad guys..
Its scary how servers can relate to such BS. b:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
who are calling random r9 VE? do you think you can desmiss the experience that some of us have so lightly? i can tell u all of the r9s u call "random" have been here for long, and are not powerlvl r9s that dont know **** about their class, or what to do, furthermore this are players with enough tw experience and knowledge, and that have been twing for long including in zulu. so please dont be like that, i have you in higher regard than this.
p.s-not all are r9
p.s.s.-and we do know a thing or two about tw
Randoms, meaning those that probably lvl'd a char in a week to 101, invested a **** ton of money to OP themselves instead of learning the class, joining the ever so pro Valalalala, only to face roll their keyboard in TW. The randoms that jumped ship from the dieing AL while the oh mighty Valalala did nothing to help their so called "allies".
Sounds like the Crimson/Insanity allie joke again.
No disrespect to you Anhk, but don't tell me half of the r9's Valalala has atm has been playing for over 2 years.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Kylin (red) was solely focused on taking out Crimson (green) for several months, but then Valhalla (the ridiculously heavy CS'er guild in yellow) decided, for reasons no one cares to explain, to stack Kylin. So for several weeks, Kylin was doing the one win/one loss bit with Valhalla eating up all the land Kylin took from Crimson. Then Kylin forgot to bid one week. Then a guild on the other side of the map, AfterLife, (the other green on Sanctuary) gave up three of their lands in a single week to relocate and stack Kylin. At this point, Kylin has less than ten R9's in the whole guild. Heck, I'm about the fourth-best geared archer with a +12 second recast bow and 9k HP. The only thing that's kept us on the map so long with the massive gear difference is that the people we have leading are TW veterans and everyone we fight is terrible at the game. Now that people decided to coach Valhalla for whatever reason, we may not stand a chance if they have even the most basic organization.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »So is it Kylins fault that everyone is attacking them or just the attitude of "for the f.ck of it?" And which faction is the silver one again?
I honestly have no clue why people attack Kylin. And I say this as a fairly new (months, but I mean I don't know these guys like old br0s and comrades) member who left Catalyst.
I used to scoff when people said people are "afraid" of Catalyst and argued that people simply didn't stack Catalyst because they knew they'd either get rolled in 5 minutes or they'd get a free win via a Crystal sprint, but both possibilities sound incredibly boring. Recently though, I've come to believe I'm wrong simply because people will demonize Kylin, saying we depend on Catalyst to win TW (a couple Catalyst are SOOOO bored that some of them have made alts and put them in Kylin, just so they can attend a fun TW once and a while), as if to give themselves justification to attack us, basically as if to say we ARE Catalyst. Catalyst and Kylin don't have an official alliance, but basically every guild on the map will work against Catalyst, then clumped Kylin in with Cata the moment they heard we housed some of their alts.
Personally, I think Kylin and Catalyst get along simply because both respect each other's skill. Not saying we're equals or that we're OUTRAGEOUSLY skilled and omg we're pr0s, but I do think there's a gap between the skill exhibited by Cata and Kylin and the skill exhibited by every other guild (as a full guild. Of course other guilds have skilled players among them). At least, that's my personal reason for wanting to work with Catalyst. If someone takes over the map, I want them to deserve it, and Catalyst is honestly the only guild that deserves that imo, other than Kylin. All the other guilds often rely on ganking in PK or forming alliances with everyone under the sun to stack and win TW, but when 1v1ed, they typically lost.I AGOREY0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »I honestly have no clue why people attack Kylin. And I say this as a fairly new (months, but I mean I don't know these guys like old br0s and comrades) member who left Catalyst.
I used to scoff when people said people are "afraid" of Catalyst and argued that people simply didn't stack Catalyst because they knew they'd either get rolled in 5 minutes or they'd get a free win via a Crystal sprint, but both possibilities sound incredibly boring. Recently though, I've come to believe I'm wrong simply because people will demonize Kylin, saying we depend on Catalyst to win TW (a couple Catalyst are SOOOO bored that some of them have made alts and put them in Kylin, just so they can attend a fun TW once and a while), as if to give themselves justification to attack us, basically as if to say we ARE Catalyst. Catalyst and Kylin don't have an official alliance, but basically every guild on the map will work against Catalyst, then clumped Kylin in with Cata the moment they heard we housed some of their alts.
Personally, I think Kylin and Catalyst get along simply because both respect each other's skill. Not saying we're equals or that we're OUTRAGEOUSLY skilled and omg we're pr0s, but I do think there's a gap between the skill exhibited by Cata and Kylin and the skill exhibited by every other guild (as a full guild. Of course other guilds have skilled players among them). At least, that's my personal reason for wanting to work with Catalyst. If someone takes over the map, I want them to deserve it, and Catalyst is honestly the only guild that deserves that imo, other than Kylin. All the other guilds often rely on ganking in PK or forming alliances with everyone under the sun to stack and win TW, but when 1v1ed, they typically lost.
Again apologies for nudging so much, but its interesting to hear a servers story other than HT <_<... So in the past 10 minutes of learning all this, each week consists of (nobody or weak) (no offense to anyone in them) ganking Kylin to get them off the map, and the silver (cant think of the name) colored faction gets no wars each week, or they just attack the no man and roll them? b:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »Again apologies for nudging so much, but its interesting to hear a servers story other than HT <_<... So in the past 10 minutes of learning all this, each week consists of (nobody or weak) (no offense to anyone in them) ganking Kylin to get them off the map, and the silver (cant think of the name) colored faction gets no wars each week, or they just attack the no man and roll them? b:shocked
Well not each week, at least wasn't until recently. After the initial few stacks at week 12 and 15-18, Kylin got left alone for a while as we fought Crimson (map of week 1-24 are on the sticky thread). But then stacks started happening again since the past month. Over the entire course tho, Kylin did pretty much get attacked by every faction on the map but Catalyst.0 -
IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »Again apologies for nudging so much, but its interesting to hear a servers story other than HT <_<... So in the past 10 minutes of learning all this, each week consists of (nobody or weak) (no offense to anyone in them) ganking Kylin to get them off the map, and the silver (cant think of the name) colored faction gets no wars each week, or they just attack the no man and roll them? b:shocked
Catalyst (silver) just gets no wars each week. Catalyst HAS fought even Valhalla before and it was very very quick. Every single guild that's fought Catalyst had a quick loss, and then many just stopped showing up when Catalyst bid them. Kylin hasn't fought Catalyst before, and though I'm sure we'd lose, I would like to see how long we could last someday, whenever all these stacks stop so we can have a 1v1.
Crimson (green) fought Kylin because Kylin attacked them (and the wars were damn fun!). Kylin seemed upset by the fact that back when Catalyst was still Zulu, Zulu was taking over the map until only Crimson and Kylin, who were allied at the time, remained on the map. Instead of supporting Kylin by stacking Zulu, Crimson....well they did jack *****. I say this and ****, back then? I was in Zulu. Even I found it odd, lulz. They basically sat there and waited for Kylin to die, then acted like the heroic spartans who would be the last wall keeping the map away from Zulu.
Valhalla was probably upset with Kylin because after Valhalla lost horribly to Catalyst, they started running. Valhalla initially built a path DIRECTLY to Catalyst (Val started near Raging Tides, Cata started near 1k Streams), believing they were the best guild on the map, then lost miserably in less than 30 minutes. People made fun of them to no end (and again if you want my opinion, that's because they ruin PK), and so they started running and bidding on other guilds instead. One day they bid on Kylin, and surprise surprise, lost to Kylin too. This meant that Valhalla got laughed at for being thought of as the best guild, when really they weren't even capable of beating a guild faaaaar worse geared than them. I think Crimson (worse geared than Valhalla) even put up longer fights than Valhalla; can't recall.
Afterlife is allied with Valhalla, so they followed them to help them with us. Think the leader also has a grudge against Kylin and vice versa. (dunno the details, this is stuff from before I joined)
Crimson also has a well-known habit of allying everyone under the ****ing sun, so there were about 2-3 other guilds that would stack Kylin for a time, presumably because of their alliance with Crimson.
Like I said, I don't quite understand it, but Kylin seems to be viewed as the "bad guys," but we PK far less than Valhalla (think I can name ~5 Valhalla who PK regularly, including myself) and really haven't done squat. Everyone seems outraged that we house a couple Catalyst alts, but to be brutally honest, there's probably ~8 of them, not sure how many regularly attend but only 2-3 stand out as being regularly valuable. The others are all poorly geared, play a friggin' sin or don't show very often.
You should probably ask a Valhalla or Crimson their opinion though, aswell. I feel weird explaining the server politics as though my opinion were fact. :PI AGOREY0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Catalyst (silver) just gets no wars each week. Catalyst HAS fought even Valhalla before and it was very very quick. Every single guild that's fought Catalyst had a quick loss, and then many just stopped showing up when Catalyst bid them. Kylin hasn't fought Catalyst before, and though I'm sure we'd lose, I would like to see how long we could last someday, whenever all these stacks stop so we can have a 1v1.
Crimson (green) fought Kylin because Kylin attacked them (and the wars were damn fun!). Kylin seemed upset by the fact that back when Catalyst was still Zulu, Zulu was taking over the map until only Crimson and Kylin, who were allied at the time, remained on the map. Instead of supporting Kylin by stacking Zulu, Crimson....well they did jack *****. I say this and ****, back then? I was in Zulu. Even I found it odd, lulz. They basically sat there and waited for Kylin to die, then acted like the heroic spartans who would be the last wall keeping the map away from Zulu.
Valhalla was probably upset with Kylin because after Valhalla lost horribly to Catalyst, they started running. Valhalla initially built a path DIRECTLY to Catalyst (Val started near Raging Tides, Cata started near 1k Streams), believing they were the best guild on the map, then lost miserably in less than 30 minutes. People made fun of them to no end (and again if you want my opinion, that's because they ruin PK), and so they started running and bidding on other guilds instead. One day they bid on Kylin, and surprise surprise, lost to Kylin too. This meant that Valhalla got laughed at for being thought of as the best guild, when really they weren't even capable of beating a guild faaaaar worse geared than them. I think Crimson (worse geared than Valhalla) even put up longer fights than Valhalla; can't recall.
Afterlife is allied with Valhalla, so they followed them to help them with us. Think the leader also has a grudge against Kylin and vice versa. (dunno the details, this is stuff from before I joined)
Crimson also has a well-known habit of allying everyone under the ****ing sun, so there were about 2-3 other guilds that would stack Kylin for a time, presumably because of their alliance with Crimson.
Like I said, I don't quite understand it, but Kylin seems to be viewed as the "bad guys," but we PK far less than Valhalla (think I can name ~5 Valhalla who PK regularly, including myself).
You should probably ask a Valhalla or Crimson their opinion though, aswell. I feel weird explaining the server politics as though my opinion were fact. :P
One huge difference I noticed between PvP and PvE or at least ours, what happens in PK doesn't really effect the bids of tw, it really happens whos gonna secretly gank, its all secret stragities till someone goes off course and f.cks everything up and burns bridges (aka what happened)
But it seems here, you guys are just falling into one dominant faction again which is sad on your part, but everything happens for a reason. But like you were saying, if anyone from those other factions have imput, it would be lovely to hear the other side of the story, not the "he-said" "she-said" BS. b:pleased[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
HEYYYYYYYY longknife give me kylins vent i wanna come paly tooo with the op peoples0
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IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »One huge difference I noticed between PvP and PvE or at least ours, what happens in PK doesn't really effect the bids of tw, it really happens whos gonna secretly gank, its all secret stragities till someone goes off course and f.cks everything up and burns bridges (aka what happened)
Well personally, the way I see it is....
We could bid on Catalyst and either get killed in 5 minutes, or if we stack them, that makes TW boring because they might not show to our war and we get a very boring crystal sprint. Meanwhile, they leave PK alone, and if we don't go for them, we can at least get several months of fun TW until they take the map. I'm also not fond of winning just because of a stack; I wanna earn it.
On the other hand, we could stack Catalyst with all the rest, get boring TWs, and at the same time, Valhalla would be ruining PK. And then there's the question of who's gonna stop Valhalla? Valhalla has proven they desperately want to win at all costs (6v1 r9 +12 ganks and they all light up with ironguards if you so much as touch them with your r8 +10 weapon; ffs I've had one triple spark in the air, ironguard and drop down BEFORE SHE'S EVEN CONFIRMED I SEE HER) and I'm not sure I want that attitude in charge of the map.
Lesser of two evils and the fun factor in my opinion, as I said.
But yeah, maybe one of them will tell you their side of things.I AGOREY0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Catalyst (silver) just gets no wars each week. Catalyst HAS fought even Valhalla before and it was very very quick. Every single guild that's fought Catalyst had a quick loss, and then many just stopped showing up when Catalyst bid them. Kylin hasn't fought Catalyst before, and though I'm sure we'd lose, I would like to see how long we could last someday, whenever all these stacks stop so we can have a 1v1.
Crimson (green) fought Kylin because Kylin attacked them (and the wars were damn fun!). Kylin seemed upset by the fact that back when Catalyst was still Zulu, Zulu was taking over the map until only Crimson and Kylin, who were allied at the time, remained on the map. Instead of supporting Kylin by stacking Zulu, Crimson....well they did jack *****. I say this and ****, back then? I was in Zulu. Even I found it odd, lulz. They basically sat there and waited for Kylin to die, then acted like the heroic spartans who would be the last wall keeping the map away from Zulu.
Valhalla was probably upset with Kylin because after Valhalla lost horribly to Catalyst, they started running. Valhalla initially built a path DIRECTLY to Catalyst (Val started near Raging Tides, Cata started near 1k Streams), believing they were the best guild on the map, then lost miserably in less than 30 minutes. People made fun of them to no end (and again if you want my opinion, that's because they ruin PK), and so they started running and bidding on other guilds instead. One day they bid on Kylin, and surprise surprise, lost to Kylin too. This meant that Valhalla got laughed at for being thought of as the best guild, when really they weren't even capable of beating a guild faaaaar worse geared than them. I think Crimson (worse geared than Valhalla) even put up longer fights than Valhalla; can't recall.
Afterlife is allied with Valhalla, so they followed them to help them with us. Think the leader also has a grudge against Kylin and vice versa. (dunno the details, this is stuff from before I joined)
Crimson also has a well-known habit of allying everyone under the ****ing sun, so there were about 2-3 other guilds that would stack Kylin for a time, presumably because of their alliance with Crimson.
Like I said, I don't quite understand it, but Kylin seems to be viewed as the "bad guys," but we PK far less than Valhalla (think I can name ~5 Valhalla who PK regularly, including myself) and really haven't done squat. Everyone seems outraged that we house a couple Catalyst alts, but to be brutally honest, there's probably ~8 of them, not sure how many regularly attend but only 2-3 stand out as being regularly valuable. The others are all poorly geared, play a friggin' sin or don't show very often.
You should probably ask a Valhalla or Crimson their opinion though, aswell. I feel weird explaining the server politics as though my opinion were fact. :P
Quoted for so true
I find funny how in this game ppl relate success to evil.
Zulu was the "evil" guild 'cause they won TW's, now Cata is "evil" 'cause they win TW's, and KY is "evil" 'cause of the 8 or 9 Cata alts (which ppl assume is an alliance idk why, also ppl give the "oh KY sucks up to Cata" for that reason, which is completely stuped).
Why do ppl look for good or evil?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Garaver - Harshlands wrote: »How many TW's u been to? Just out of curiosity...
How much i will not tell you. But i will give you over 10.Crescendia - Harshlands wrote: »Wanna know the best part? We dominate with 40-50 or so active people by doing crystal rushes b:pleased Server be scared brah
I thought someone said on forums you dont do crystal rushes. Ok how about not crystal rush and see if anything changes.Garaver - Harshlands wrote: »Quoted for so true
I find funny how in this game ppl relate success to evil.
Zulu was the "evil" guild 'cause they won TW's, now Cata is "evil" 'cause they win TW's, and KY is "evil" 'cause of the 8 or 9 Cata alts (which ppl assume is an alliance idk why, also ppl give the "oh KY sucks up to Cata" for that reason, which is completely stuped).
Why do ppl look for good or evil?
Zulu was not evil just fun pulling on their chains. Catalyst is not evil either im just trying to find a way to break them down. Kylin thats like saying a bunny could be evil and kill everyone no offence.Fail troll of harshlands0 -
We have had a few fun wars, the alfterlife/mayhem stack was a blast. The first couple Valhahaha wars were fun too, until they ran like little dogs with their tail between their legs. I never understood why they ran, I mean...its a video game man, why run and hide? Its not like the effects of losing a tw carry on to rl. If they wanted some experience together as a guild they should have shown up. Stacking a lesser guild for a win, is just that, its not a win, you didn't do anything to gain any experience of working together as a group. Like other posters have said....A lot of us in catalyst have been in squads together for tw for a couple years now...**** my sq doesn't even need to call targets...we know who is next.Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »I thought someone said on forums you dont do crystal rushes. Ok how about not crystal rush and see if anything changes.
I honestly look forward to someone either stacking us or....just showing up, I'm sure the rest of the guild would say the same thing...bring it on.
When we field only 50 ppl for a tw and win...shows what experience does....now that valhahaha thinks they have gained some through one tw win, come give a lesser active guild a try, see what happens.b:chuckleb:chuckle0 -
Sabella - Harshlands wrote: »We have had a few fun wars, the alfterlife/mayhem stack was a blast. The first couple Valhahaha wars were fun too, until they ran like little dogs with their tail between their legs. I never understood why they ran, I mean...its a video game man, why run and hide? Its not like the effects of losing a tw carry on to rl. If they wanted some experience together as a guild they should have shown up. Stacking a lesser guild for a win, is just that, its not a win, you didn't do anything to gain any experience of working together as a group. Like other posters have said....A lot of us in catalyst have been in squads together for tw for a couple years now...**** my sq doesn't even need to call targets...we know who is next.
I honestly look forward to someone either stacking us or....just showing up, I'm sure the rest of the guild would say the same thing...bring it on.
When we field only 50 ppl for a tw and win...shows what experience does....now that valhahaha thinks they have gained some through one tw win, come give a lesser active guild a try, see what happens.b:chuckleb:chuckle
I dont know why they run and hide either. Maybe the leadership is to blame because they dont like to lose all the time. Sometimes there is good exp in losing. I wish they would try attacking a diffrent way or solve problems in their own faction to land a win.
Im trying to think of a faction that fought against a faction they couldnt take but i dont remember one. I heard that Afterife got your crystal half way in one war. I dont know what was stopping to push the final win but if they can get that done then winning against you is not impossible.
A faction just needs to war against catalyst for like a month none stop learn your patterns. If they lose they lose but if they can learn how you opperate then maybe they can make a plan to win a war or at the very least make some progress.
I think you guys are depending on the stacked wars to much they wont even be organized just randomly attack.
If you only have 50 people twing if someone wins how long will it be before the rest come? I know you want a chalange and i know that most of you are just lieing in wait for that chalange to come. How long would it be before that 50 turned into 100+?
If i ruled Valhalla i would attack catalyst weekly and thats 80 show or get kicked. I cant take weak people standing around just to have the faction name over their head.
Valhalla could take catalyst if they put effort into it but the fact remains i dont want them to win. I myself will do anything to stop that. I would rather crimson or kylin win.Fail troll of harshlands0 -
It's easy to say that guilds should just keep trying until they succeed, but the prevailing attitude on the server is that no guild which is losing land is worth being in. People from Crimson always talked about how loyal and wonderful their members were, and after a couple of months of straight losses, they went from 100+ people only for TW to not being able to get a full 80. Unless the majority of the server changes that attitude, it's always going to be a choice between winning or disbanding. There are a few people around (like myself) who actually prefer to join losing teams, but there aren't enough of them. The trend of former Venos rerolling sins tells you everything you need to know about the attitude of the majority of players this server towards losing.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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8 pages of repetitive answers,please find something more interesting to say, it is getting old lol
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Rocketpower - Harshlands wrote: »8 pages of repetitive answers,please find something more interesting to say, it is getting old lol
Whats getting old is QQing that no one can fight catalyst thats what is getting old. It wouldnt happen if the QQ stopped.
QQ they have to many rank 9
QQ they have to much exp
QQ they never lose
QQ I have bad gear and they have good
QQ They one shot me
All of these are just ways to get out of the fact they they dont know how to play their class so this can all change.
So yes it will keep going on and on until someone gets their head out of their butts finds a way to win. Until then nothing will change.Fail troll of harshlands0 -
Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »I dont know why they run and hide either. Maybe the leadership is to blame because they dont like to lose all the time. Sometimes there is good exp in losing. I wish they would try attacking a diffrent way or solve problems in their own faction to land a win.
Im trying to think of a faction that fought against a faction they couldnt take but i dont remember one. I heard that Afterife got your crystal half way in one war. I dont know what was stopping to push the final win but if they can get that done then winning against you is not impossible.
A faction just needs to war against catalyst for like a month none stop learn your patterns. If they lose they lose but if they can learn how you opperate then maybe they can make a plan to win a war or at the very least make some progress.
I think you guys are depending on the stacked wars to much they wont even be organized just randomly attack.
If you only have 50 people twing if someone wins how long will it be before the rest come? I know you want a chalange and i know that most of you are just lieing in wait for that chalange to come. How long would it be before that 50 turned into 100+?
If i ruled Valhalla i would attack catalyst weekly and thats 80 show or get kicked. I cant take weak people standing around just to have the faction name over their head.
Valhalla could take catalyst if they put effort into it but the fact remains i dont want them to win. I myself will do anything to stop that. I would rather crimson or kylin win.
Idk how far they got the crystal down tbh, but if they got it to half kudos to them, was a fun weekend of wars. The 50 would turn into 100+ i'm sure if fun wars were to be had. Patterns change, honestly there is no pattern, there is only 2 things that win wars, action, and reaction. What you do with those 2 things makes or breaks you. Offense and defense do their jobs and how we react to what the other guild does is how u win. Its honestly not hate targeting people, its knuckling down and working as a group, individuality may win pvp, TEAM wins war.0 -
Cata Barb squads win games. Duh.0
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Valala is a collection of B-team players who basically spent the majority of their time on Harshlands getting **** on. They ran from sub-par factions as they started to crumble --factions that have never been able to hold their own in either PVP or TW. Having this background, they have both a chip on their shoulders and the wanton desire to zerg everything under the sun. They know they cant win even numbers. This is why you see hotzones like west gate light up with 15+ people scurrying out of safezone to kill 2-3 others; and, conversely, why they tuck tail and run when its anything close to even numbers. Combine this with the "new gen" cashshoppers and new gen "MY-PROS" and you have a faction of B-team scrubs cash shopping with severely bruised egos. Well geared scrubs are still scrubs. That's about it.0
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Sabella - Harshlands wrote: »Idk how far they got the crystal down tbh, but if they got it to half kudos to them, was a fun weekend of wars. The 50 would turn into 100+ i'm sure if fun wars were to be had. Patterns change, honestly there is no pattern, there is only 2 things that win wars, action, and reaction. What you do with those 2 things makes or breaks you. Offense and defense do their jobs and how we react to what the other guild does is how u win. Its honestly not hate targeting people, its knuckling down and working as a group, individuality may win pvp, TEAM wins war.
Your right they are not good with teams. Which might be their biggest problem they dont know how to work together. Catalyst from what i understand has been fight with most the same people for the past few years lost a few and gained a few.HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »Valala is a collection of B-team players who basically spent the majority of their time on Harshlands getting **** on. They ran from sub-par factions as they started to crumble --factions that have never been able to hold their own in either PVP or TW. Having this background, they have both a chip on their shoulders and the wanton desire to zerg everything under the sun. They know they cant win even numbers. This is why you see hotzones like west gate light up with 15+ people scurrying out of safezone to kill 2-3 others; and, conversely, why they tuck tail and run when its anything close to even numbers. Combine this with the "new gen" cashshoppers and new gen "MY-PROS" and you have a faction of B-team scrubs cash shopping with severely bruised egos. Well geared scrubs are still scrubs. That's about it.
Yea valhalla has to many that they im pro and if we fail its everyone else's fault. So they dont become better and dont do anything to make sure they can work together.
Valhalla is a dead faction enough said.Fail troll of harshlands0 -
Valhalla is a relatively new faction to be honest.We are not the best considering tw,we can admit that.But we show the eagerness to become better whereas you guys only show the need to fight valhalla at each step it makes.And for lutirica: we are not dead,not even close to dead nor will be soon.So you might as well accept that we are not gonna simply disappear.0
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No no no no no...you guys made a b-line straight for us after the map reset. Valhahaha came for catalyst, not visa versa. Now, you made an enemy, time to man up and face what your guild started. We aren't going to stop coming after you, you have no where to run. Show up or not, we will keep coming until you are once again....off the map.Rocketpower - Harshlands wrote: »Valhalla is a relatively new faction to be honest.We are not the best considering tw,we can admit that.But we show the eagerness to become better whereas you guys only show the need to fight valhalla at each step it makes.And for lutirica: we are not dead,not even close to dead nor will be soon.So you might as well accept that we are not gonna simply disappear.0 -
we came for you guys because we thought we could have a fun fight...seems we werent ready.Now...an enemy?I think you are taking the game too seriously right there,if i may say.Plus,we know that you guys will come for us,werent expecting anything else to be honest.But win or lose,all we want is fun.Now it seems your goals are a bit less concerning about fun.0
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Rocketpower - Harshlands wrote: »Valhalla is a relatively new faction to be honest.We are not the best considering tw,we can admit that.But we show the eagerness to become better whereas you guys only show the need to fight valhalla at each step it makes.And for lutirica: we are not dead,not even close to dead nor will be soon.So you might as well accept that we are not gonna simply disappear.
Valhalla in terms of so many not knowing what they are doing. If thats what you mean by new i agree. I dont expect them to. I just expect what i always have. FUN (for me)Sabella - Harshlands wrote: »No no no no no...you guys made a b-line straight for us after the map reset. Valhahaha came for catalyst, not visa versa. Now, you made an enemy, time to man up and face what your guild started. We aren't going to stop coming after you, you have no where to run. Show up or not, we will keep coming until you are once again....off the map.
She is right you went right for catalyst which in fact was stupid. Valhalla should of went for arch the first chance they got.
Valhalla is asking for all the hate. Camping Pvp zones ganking in numbers of 4 +. Pvp effects the opinions people have on the factions they are in. Now im just laughing at the fact that valhalla can but is not winning tw.
See if Catalyst attackers arch this week and kylin attacks ether im wondering..... Which will valhalla defend ether or arch. It is possible to win though im cheering for kylin and catalyst anyways.Fail troll of harshlands0 -
Rocketpower - Harshlands wrote: »we came for you guys because we thought we could have a fun fight...seems we werent ready.Now...an enemy?I think you are taking the game too seriously right there,if i may say.Plus,we know that you guys will come for us,werent expecting anything else to be honest.But win or lose,all we want is fun.Now it seems your goals are a bit less concerning about fun.
You came for us cause you thought you could beat us, stop lieing to yourself. I have had my fun with this game, honestly my real life is super busy atm so I only log in for like 10 minutes and dip. Aside from tw I dont even play.b:thanks
Don't sit there and say all you want is fun. If you wanted fun, you wouldn't stack a lesser geared faction. Wheres the fun in one shotting people? "Hey look hahaha nab i just one shotted a lesser geared veno im cool" does not apply. While you sit there and think everyone else is believing your bs, realists like myself read through it. Your guild has been preaching the same bs for a couple months. No one believes it, make a new story.0
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