No fun tw's something needs to be done

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  • Lutirica - Harshlands
    Lutirica - Harshlands Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Bearie - Harshlands wrote: »
    so u really think catalyst can lead and win 3 wars with 70 ppl max...vs 240?

    Its not about numbers catalyst could stay in the base with just 5 people and win no matter the numbers.
    Fail troll of harshlands
  • Okopogo - Harshlands
    Okopogo - Harshlands Posts: 751 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »
    Its not about numbers catalyst could stay in the base with just 5 people and win no matter the numbers.

    Goes to show just how much you *DONT* know about TW.
  • Lutirica - Harshlands
    Lutirica - Harshlands Posts: 1,437 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Okopogo - Harshlands wrote: »
    Goes to show just how much you *DONT* know about TW.

    I know more than you think and he did not say the size of the factions attacking. Valhalla im sure you would need alot more same with kylin and maybe crimson.
    Fail troll of harshlands
  • Garaver - Harshlands
    Garaver - Harshlands Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »
    I know more than you think and he did not say the size of the factions attacking. Valhalla im sure you would need alot more same with kylin and maybe crimson.

    How many TW's u been to? Just out of curiosity...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    -Semi-quit the game, I'm very busy nowadays
    -Former member of Kylin
    -Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte
  • Tryagain - Harshlands
    Tryagain - Harshlands Posts: 716 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Bearie - Harshlands wrote: »
    so u really think catalyst can lead and win 3 wars with 70 ppl max...vs 240?

    I have a feeling this might...MIGHT....happen one time. Then the next week you will have 150 people and easily plow through a triple stack.

    This group has always had a way of pulling strings to win. I'm not saying it's bad or it's your fault. Good for you guys that you've managed to stay friends with all the people that no longer play, and are able to get their help when you need it. Or recruit a guild's top players with a snap of your finger. I'd just like to stop seeing the "poor catalyst has no people" bull**** constantly. I heard the same thing in Zulu.

    You have the large majority of the best geared and competent players, and you continue to recruit them from the other guilds. Again...props for forming an unstoppable faction, but don't complain about not having a challenge.
  • anhkrah
    anhkrah Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    VenomousEmo - Harshlands wrote: »
    I wouldn't call gaining 10 more random r9's from AL and full guild pushing B every time much of an improvement... but if you say so. b:chuckle
    At least they took out towers this time!

    who are calling random r9 VE? do you think you can desmiss the experience that some of us have so lightly? i can tell u all of the r9s u call "random" have been here for long, and are not powerlvl r9s that dont know **** about their class, or what to do, furthermore this are players with enough tw experience and knowledge, and that have been twing for long including in zulu. so please dont be like that, i have you in higher regard than this.

    p.s-not all are r9
    p.s.s.-and we do know a thing or two about tw
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    anhkrah wrote: »
    who are calling random r9 VE? do you think you can desmiss the experience that some of us have so lightly? i can tell u all of the r9s u call "random" have been here for long, and are not powerlvl r9s that dont know **** about their class, or what to do, furthermore this are players with enough tw experience and knowledge, and that have been twing for long including in zulu. so please dont be like that, i have you in higher regard than this.

    p.s-not all are r9
    p.s.s.-and we do know a thing or two about tw

    I'll believe you when I see them take the time to learn what's the correct shards to put in weapon or the correct ornaments for their class.
  • anhkrah
    anhkrah Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    I'll believe you when I see them take the time to learn what's the correct shards to put in weapon or the correct ornaments for their class.

    it would be interesting to know who exactly you are talking about, those players i am referring to surely dont have that kind of problem
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Really? Because more than half of your players have the wrong shards in weapon and one of your cata Barb has physical ornaments.
  • anhkrah
    anhkrah Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Really? Because more than half of your players have the wrong shards in weapon and one of your cata Barb has physical ornaments.

    it is clear we are not talking about the same players, nor the same issue, that drove me to make the comment i did.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    anhkrah wrote: »
    it is clear we are not talking about the same players, nor the same issue, that drove me to make the comment i did.

    Lol, you are claiming that most of you guys have been around and know your class, but all I have to do is click player info and see past the full +10/+12 to see how many of you are just cluelessly throwing cash at a character without knowing the basics of the game mechanics or the class.
  • anhkrah
    anhkrah Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Lol, you are claiming that most of you guys have been around and know your class, but all I have to do is click player info and see past the full +10/+12 to see how many of you are just cluelessly throwing cash at a character without knowing the basics of the game mechanics or the class.

    do you even bother to read what people write? seems to me you are doing some kind of generalization, and refering to a guild, and i believe i made no mention of such subjects.

    makes any discussion kinda pointless really, cause we are talking about 2 different things
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Are we? You are claiming most of you guys are not noobs and I'm giving you reasons why most of you guys are noobs.
  • anhkrah
    anhkrah Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Are we? You are claiming most of you guys are not noobs and I'm giving you reasons why most of you guys are noobs.

    i guess you really dont have a clue of what i was talking about.

    cheers!
  • Garaver - Harshlands
    Garaver - Harshlands Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    This game is not rocket science, I think the point Oke is trying to make here is that there are only a few ways to **** up as a player and most of Valala's (not all of course, but most) members do them all:

    -Wrong gear (classes like barbs using phy ornaments and with +10 pan gu axe for tiger form)

    -Wrong shards (I've seen some Valala's bms with phy def shards... yeah makes me wanna shoot myself)

    -BMs fisting in TW

    -BMs flying in TW

    -Rambo style TW (I've seen archers go in front of the lines ALONE to hate target random ppl)

    Stuff like that...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    -Semi-quit the game, I'm very busy nowadays
    -Former member of Kylin
    -Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte
  • Crescendia - Harshlands
    Crescendia - Harshlands Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    anhkrah wrote: »
    who are calling random r9 VE? do you think you can desmiss the experience that some of us have so lightly? i can tell u all of the r9s u call "random" have been here for long, and are not powerlvl r9s that dont know **** about their class, or what to do, furthermore this are players with enough tw experience and knowledge, and that have been twing for long including in zulu. so please dont be like that, i have you in higher regard than this.

    p.s-not all are r9
    p.s.s.-and we do know a thing or two about tw

    Will you show up to a Catalyst TW now that you are leading the valhalla army? I mean your entire faction is confident now about their role in TW from 1 win, so how about you test that? And don't tell mey kylin is a test when you massively outgear them now by having close to 80 R9's in a TW. I mean, now that Valhalla might have someone giving some kind of leadership in TW instead of what was present before, you guys actually have a chance of giving Catalyst a decent fight.

    /inb4 Pry coming here and saying "We don't care about giving decent fights. We only care about stacking in TW."
    Originally Posted by Curses - Harshlands

    Sidenote: hilarious name for a boat: "Yeah Buoy".

    b:laughb:laugh
  • anhkrah
    anhkrah Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Crescendia - Harshlands wrote: »
    Will you show up to a Catalyst TW now that you are leading the valhalla army? I mean your entire faction is confident now about their role in TW from 1 win, so how about you test that? And don't tell mey kylin is a test when you massively outgear them now by having close to 80 R9's in a TW. I mean, now that Valhalla might have someone giving some kind of leadership in TW instead of what was present before, you guys actually have a chance of giving Catalyst a decent fight.

    /inb4 Pry coming here and saying "We don't care about giving decent fights. We only care about stacking in TW."

    Dia i am not leading the Valhalla army, who ever gave you that notion is incorrect.

    Also i dont know how many r9s we have, and i dont know if ur numbers are correct, when u say we have close to 80. if its true it is nice to have those numbers, it is handy in a tw against cata since the majority of you guys are r9, or pretty close to it also.

    as for outgearing kylin i have to agree on that point, it sure seems that way.

    speaking from a personal perspective i would surely like to give it a go against Catalyst, imo those are the really interesting tws. and it would be quite an experience.
    and we all know 1 win doesent mean much in the bigger picture. So i can really only speak for myself here. I would welcome the challenge. and i am sure it will happen.
  • Pry - Harshlands
    Pry - Harshlands Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Cata still has around double of our R9 numbers, dont worry Dia, it isnt even close to 40 let alone 80. We've been thru these conversations so many many MANY times, I honestly have no idea how you guys keep adding to it.

    Valhalla came out of nowhere, with people from all over, and ever since the start we had maybe 3-4 REAL challenging TW's. Don't except miracles. Nothing has changed when it comes to TW leading since AL came, and you know what else? It is not AL. It is 100% Valhalla now. Everyone is in the same group, and we'll work like one.

    But do not try to compare guilds who have their core together for years in TW, to a guild who is just starting, and obviously you will troll on this also, thats your thing, I dont honestly care. Just wish you people would stop being idiots for once and give it a break, its getting old.

    We do not breathe for Kylin or for Catalyst.
    Why so much obsession and so much need for trashtalk?
    You rarely see any Valhalla member trashtalk, and NEVER after any TW.
    We win, we lose, life goes on.
    Guess its a matter of maturity tho.

    You do your thing, we do ours.

    Peace.
    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
  • Erzenzia - Harshlands
    Erzenzia - Harshlands Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Pry - Harshlands wrote: »
    Cata still has around double of our R9 numbers, dont worry Dia, it isnt even close to 40 let alone 80. We've been thru these conversations so many many MANY times, I honestly have no idea how you guys keep adding to it.

    Valhalla came out of nowhere, with people from all over, and ever since the start we had maybe 3-4 REAL challenging TW's. Don't except miracles. Nothing has changed when it comes to TW leading since AL came, and you know what else? It is not AL. It is 100% Valhalla now. Everyone is in the same group, and we'll work like one.

    But do not try to compare guilds who have their core together for years in TW, to a guild who is just starting, and obviously you will troll on this also, thats your thing, I dont honestly care. Just wish you people would stop being idiots for once and give it a break, its getting old.

    We do not breathe for Kylin or for Catalyst.
    Why so much obsession and so much need for trashtalk?
    You rarely see any Valhalla member trashtalk, and NEVER after any TW.
    We win, we lose, life goes on.
    Guess its a matter of maturity tho.

    You do your thing, we do ours.

    Peace.


    VH not trashtalk?......
    Originally Posted by Tryagain - Harshlands
    I always was a strong believer that this game took no skill. Then came Valhalla, and proved me wrong.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Right, forgot, it's around 5 R9s.
    And just starting? We've been told Valhalla core is proz and been around for years yo.
  • Pry - Harshlands
    Pry - Harshlands Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Your nice little guildie complained of getting one-hit by R9's. Sorry if I only mentioned the 5-7 high r9 DD's we actually had on that war. Dont think he got hit by any cata barb, or that any bm was one-hiting him.

    Anyway, yes the core has been TW'ing for years, but we too came from different guilds on the other server.
    I have 3 people in here that came from my guild and that I KNOW how they play and trust them 100%, the rest I'm still learning their playstyle or lack of it with time. Teamwork doesnt happen over night when it comes to TW.

    The real difference from Friday to Saturday wasnt even that tho.
    Was the fact friday we had 27 people who signed up and didnt show, and 20+ of those who did show up, did it at the last 10 minutes. As you can guess that screws up any guild.
    Not trying to make excuses tho, quite the contrary. We lost, fair and square.
    Glad everyone was ready in time on saturday, and you can see what a diff that makes.

    Let's hope we keep it up, for our fun and for Kylin's fun as well.


    o/
    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Pry - Harshlands wrote: »
    We win, we lose, life goes on.
    Guess its a matter of maturity tho.
    Sorry but this isn't how things work with Valalalalalaa. You guys feel the need to win, must win. This is cause for R9+12 IG against TT90 weapon; the cause of ganking someone in PK who already have much inferior gears than just one of you; the cause of you guys grabbing AL's R9s after you lost, who themselves are already out number the R9s in Kylin. You guys are not after fun but after that win, no matter what it takes or how much of an advantage you have. I honestly never seen such desire for that "win", maybe it's got to do with how much you guys paid for this game and feel like you need to get something out of it. I almost always Pk alone because I honestly just don't give a **** about k/d or winning, but Valalala almost never leave SZ unless they know they got the number and gears to win. I caught Rocketpower coming out of Secret Passage a few days ago and started fighting him. He ran and said he's going to Silver instead. I go to silver and saw him with about 3-4 of Valalalalas ganking Kalyptica rofl.

    You know what Kylin did when we lost to Crimson? We looked at TW videos and went over what we did wrong and what we could do to improve. And what did you guys do? Grabbed another faction worth of R9s. So please, cut the "we just want to have fun" ****.
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    anhkrah wrote: »
    who are calling random r9 VE? do you think you can desmiss the experience that some of us have so lightly? i can tell u all of the r9s u call "random" have been here for long, and are not powerlvl r9s that dont know **** about their class, or what to do, furthermore this are players with enough tw experience and knowledge, and that have been twing for long including in zulu. so please dont be like that, i have you in higher regard than this.

    p.s-not all are r9
    p.s.s.-and we do know a thing or two about tw

    No Anhkrah, YOU know a thing or two about TW. And now you've taught them.

    Pry - Harshlands wrote: »
    Your nice little guildie complained of getting one-hit by R9's. Sorry if I only mentioned the 5-7 high r9 DD's we actually had on that war. Dont think he got hit by any cata barb, or that any bm was one-hiting him.

    Anyway, yes the core has been TW'ing for years, but we too came from different guilds on the other server.
    I have 3 people in here that came from my guild and that I KNOW how they play and trust them 100%, the rest I'm still learning their playstyle or lack of it with time. Teamwork doesnt happen over night when it comes to TW.

    The real difference from Friday to Saturday wasnt even that tho.
    Was the fact friday we had 27 people who signed up and didnt show, and 20+ of those who did show up, did it at the last 10 minutes. As you can guess that screws up any guild.
    Not trying to make excuses tho, quite the contrary. We lost, fair and square.
    Glad everyone was ready in time on saturday, and you can see what a diff that makes.

    Let's hope we keep it up, for our fun and for Kylin's fun as well.


    o/


    It is SOOOOOOO obvious someone else was calling the shots in that war and/or gave you guys coaching. THAT was the difference. The simple fact that you try to claim you had no R9s or that alleged attendance issues on Friday were responsible for your loss would convince me you're STILL clueless about TW, if it wasn't for the fact that now you apparently have a capable leader.
    I <3 AGOREY
  • IBaMBii - Heavens Tear
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Sorry to be nosey, HT thread is dead. Someone mind posting a SS of your TW map? Even with reset, our tws in HT have flared up and to see that your guys are dead.. interests me. b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Sorry to be nosey, HT thread is dead. Someone mind posting a SS of your TW map? Even with reset, our tws in HT have flared up and to see that your guys are dead.. interests me. b:chuckle

    http://i52.tinypic.com/velu6e.jpg

    Eoria was suppose to take a pic every week but she got lazy.
  • IBaMBii - Heavens Tear
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    http://i52.tinypic.com/velu6e.jpg

    Eoria was suppose to take a pic every week but she got lazy.

    Holy **** 0.o We have a dominant faction on ours, but not by much, but geez. I feel bad for you guys, its gonna go to that big ugly silver/grey color soon, or what it looks like. b:shocked
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Sorry to be nosey, HT thread is dead. Someone mind posting a SS of your TW map? Even with reset, our tws in HT have flared up and to see that your guys are dead.. interests me. b:chuckle

    Ours are pretty much "dead" in the sense that we're on a time limit of how long they'll be fun. We have a guild that's composed of old school players (so with the advantage of having experience together and being the first to play the market, they sustain dominance) and a guild that's composed of heavy HEAVY cash shoppers. The old school guild basically has 3/4ths of the map whereas the other guilds are using that fourth to have fun. Kylin (another old school, experienced guild, though one that HASN'T maintained dominance) was able to beat the cash shopper guild as well, but recently someone broke the unspoken br0 code and taught the CSers how to TW, so our TWs might die soon, turning into r9 guild vs. r9 guild.

    Has to do with our server's culture, I'd say. It would appear people just want to win and nothing but. You can go in the other sticky thread (listing guilds on the server) and check out Kylin's application list knowing Kylin has few r9s but is the number 2 guild on the server (that may change soon), then compare the apps Kylin gets to those of Catalyst, who already dominates, or Valhalla, who doesn't QUITE know what they're doing yet but has r9s out the wazoo.

    Everyone just wants to win, and it's killing our TWs because no one will take a risk.
    I <3 AGOREY
  • IBaMBii - Heavens Tear
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ours are pretty much "dead" in the sense that we're on a time limit of how long they'll be fun. We have a guild that's composed of old school players (so with the advantage of having experience together and being the first to play the market, they sustain dominance) and a guild that's composed of heavy HEAVY cash shoppers. The old school guild basically has 3/4ths of the map whereas the other guilds are using that fourth to have fun. Kylin (another old school, experienced guild, though one that HASN'T maintained dominance) was able to beat the cash shopper guild as well, but recently someone broke the unspoken br0 code and taught the CSers how to TW, so our TWs might die soon, turning into r9 guild vs. r9 guild.

    Has to do with our server's culture, I'd say. It would appear people just want to win and nothing but. You can go in the other sticky thread (listing guilds on the server) and check out Kylin's application list knowing Kylin has few r9s but is the number 2 guild on the server (that may change soon), then compare the apps Kylin gets to those of Catalyst, who already dominates, or Valhalla, who doesn't QUITE know what they're doing yet but has r9s out the wazoo.

    Everyone just wants to win, and it's killing our TWs because no one will take a risk.

    Hmm... thats very interesting, but sad at the same time. We are doing everything here to stop the dominating faction to take all the lands, but since our huge HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY CSing R9 faction decided to burn bridges with everyone, no one is working together anymore to kill off the dominant faction, but to kill off the backstabbers. So once they are off, (another 3 months max) our map will be full green, once again. b:shutup
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Crescendia - Harshlands
    Crescendia - Harshlands Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Holy **** 0.o We have a dominant faction on ours, but not by much, but geez. I feel bad for you guys, its gonna go to that big ugly silver/grey color soon, or what it looks like. b:shocked

    Wanna know the best part? We dominate with 40-50 or so active people by doing crystal rushes b:pleased Server be scared brah
    Originally Posted by Curses - Harshlands

    Sidenote: hilarious name for a boat: "Yeah Buoy".

    b:laughb:laugh
  • Pry - Harshlands
    Pry - Harshlands Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Wtv. :)
    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?

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