wizard ultis are useless

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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Blood is in his own little world. I proved exactly what I was trying to (and said I was).. just because he keeps saying I was trying to prove something else doesn't change what happened. His first comment about not knowing what to say was probably the only truthful admission of stupidity I've seen him make.. but I'll take it. Thanks for digging that back up.
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  • snufalufaguss
    snufalufaguss Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Who can win 1vs1: BLOOD or Androit?
  • Questro - Lost City
    Questro - Lost City Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    snufalufaguss wrote: »
    Who can win 1vs1: BLOOD or Androit?

    If same gear, I ll pick Adroit
    A crit from Archer usually hurt but a crit from wiz usually mean death.
  • Mooooooooo - Lost City
    Mooooooooo - Lost City Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    i one shot adroit without a weapon.
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  • snufalufaguss
    snufalufaguss Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Mooooooooo - Lost City wrote: »
    i one shot adroit without a weapon.

    Isn't that called the money shot?
  • HardToThink - Lost City
    HardToThink - Lost City Posts: 967 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Questro - Lost City wrote: »
    If same gear, I ll pick Adroit

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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2011
    snufalufaguss wrote: »
    Who can win 1vs1: BLOOD or Androit?

    i know 3 warriors from archosaur, they all 3 claim blood is rather difficult to kill. blood is also dark, so his control skills would be superior to that of adroit's. however, people say these same things about adroit, and i wasn't ever impressed watching him play ingame.

    i could say they're likely on the same level of playing ability.

    it's probably a 50:50 fight, assuming same gears.
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    i thought prof quit forums
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  • Questro - Lost City
    Questro - Lost City Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    HardToThink - Lost City wrote: »
    wow gratz on 105 quest!

    ty bliss
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  • Evanera - Heavens Tear
    Evanera - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,423 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »


    You are aware that LA build was never viable for wizards?

    Incorrect on many levels.
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    prof wrote: »
    i know 3 warriors from archosaur, they all 3 claim blood is rather difficult to kill. blood is also dark, so his control skills would be superior to that of adroit's. however, people say these same things about adroit, and i wasn't ever impressed watching him play ingame.

    i could say they're likely on the same level of playing ability.

    it's probably a 50:50 fight, assuming same gears.

    I am sage, but with these rank weapons I think demon is turning the tables on cultivation choice for wizards. Sage masteries imo are less important when you are hitting people for 20k anyway - adding some control skills almost HAS to be the right choice now.

    Although sage bids is still sexy, I think in almost every respect now (demon masteries somewhat confirmed to stack and rank 8/rank 9 weapons 1 shotting people regardless of cultivation) demon wizard is (or soon will become) the most popular choice - assuming people still choose wizards at all.

    And I also wasn't ever overly impressed with Adroit. There is no doubt he can play the class well, but as I've said before, the "pro-kiting" people were jaw dropping over seemed to me to be pretty standard fair if you know what you are doing and was in large measure a function of a genie built to slip stuns.

    Careful though prof, the "Adolt is pro" mafia jump me anytime I say remotely what you have here. I wonder if they will show up against you as well. If they do, I welcome the company. If not, well, it shows that their derision was more about me and less about the truth of what I said.

    Another reason to lol about Adroot's affrond to my alleged "ad hominem" arguments.
    snufalufaguss wrote: »
    Who can win 1vs1: BLOOD or Androit?

    Thank you for the typo in his name, lol. I know it must drive him nutz. He's so pro, after all, that EVERYONE should name him correctly, of course.

    To your point, however. Prof's reply above is probably right on, although who knows for sure. If they ever have a cross server means to fight him, I sure will - win lose or draw. I don't pk to win, I pk for fun. I'll even go for tt90 gear with him if he wants, since im rank 9 now, qq (those damn rank 9 barbs and rank 9 bms with magic marrow - taking 2k from my bids with my 9x gear - i just couldn't stay antiquated any longer . . . . )

    More to the point however, since in my estimation a wizard isn't really built for 1 vs 1, comparing 1 vs 1 wizard vs wizard is, to me, like saying which makes better orange juice: an apple or a grape? b:surrender

    So if Adrut (or any of his followers) wants to say he would "own" me 1 vs 1? Meh, he can have it. I don't really care one way or the other.

    Now, if you want to talk inside of TW . . . .
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2011
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »
    I am sage

    right..

    i use to say androit, because of dbz b:laugh
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Let's get it back on topic people!

    Anyways, ultis are pretty useless because they use up 2 valuable sparks to hit the opponent with 1 powerful move. Now as we all now, dps > dph, so the sparks used for an ulti would be better spent on essential sutra or a triple spark, preferably demon spark as it speeds up channeling, which ofc increases dps even more.
  • Mooooooooo - Lost City
    Mooooooooo - Lost City Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Let's get it back on topic people!

    Anyways, ultis are pretty useless because they use up 2 valuable sparks to hit the opponent with 1 powerful move. Now as we all now, dps > dph, so the sparks used for an ulti would be better spent on essential sutra or a triple spark, preferably demon spark as it speeds up channeling, which ofc increases dps even more.

    I don't have 3 spark since I never got past culti 59 for the ultis so I'll just spam 1 sparks instead.
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Now as we all now, dps > dph.

    for pve, but imo AOE DPH > single target DPS for group PvP (including TW).

    how does someone that says ulti's are useless and dps>dph also say (in his guide) that we are one of the best 1 vs 1 classes?
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • Arenaceous - Lost City
    Arenaceous - Lost City Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »
    for pve, but imo AOE DPH > single target DPS for group PvP (including TW).

    how does someone that says ulti's are useless and dps>dph also say (in his guide) that we are one of the best 1 vs 1 classes?

    I would advise cheze to put a sarcasm-warning-sign on his posts in the future. DaKillanator probably as well.
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »
    I would advise cheze to put a sarcasm-warning-sign on his posts in the future. DaKillanator probably as well.

    You attribute it to sarcasm, but every fact in his post is 100% true, its just the conclusion is wrong. Thats not trolling, that noobie.

    I bet he does prefer demon spark vs using chi on ultimates.
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »
    You attribute it to sarcasm, but every fact in his post is 100% true, its just the conclusion is wrong. Thats not trolling, that noobie.

    I bet he does prefer demon spark vs using chi on ultimates.

    lololol
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    ulties are in fact useless


    and DPS > DPH


    so just double click windshield your target
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2011
    i'm surprised that people actually believe these skills are useless lol

    if cheze told you maplestory was the best game ever, would you guys quit to go play it?
  • Fulcanelli - Raging Tide
    Fulcanelli - Raging Tide Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    prof wrote: »
    i'm surprised that people actually believe these skills are useless lol

    if cheze told you maplestory was the best game ever, would you guys quit to go play it?

    ultis sucks!

    in fact they suck so much that I never use them...

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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »
    for pve, but imo AOE DPH > single target DPS for group PvP (including TW).

    how does someone that says ulti's are useless and dps>dph also say (in his guide) that we are one of the best 1 vs 1 classes?

    Please see
    Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »
    I would advise cheze to put a sarcasm-warning-sign on his posts in the future. DaKillanator probably as well.
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »
    You attribute it to sarcasm, but every fact in his post is 100% true, its just the conclusion is wrong.

    The, "let's get this back on topic!" line didn't get tell you I was being sarcastic...?

    Or even as you stated, I've obviously made my opinions on the importance of dph in pvp known, so how could you not put the two together?
    I swear, you make this too easy sometimes.
  • Mooooooooo - Lost City
    Mooooooooo - Lost City Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    what's sarcasm?

    I just push buttons and full r9 +12 barbs die.
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I swear, you make this too easy sometimes.

    Please come up with your own lines.

    And I asked around on your server - noone has ever seen you use an ulti in pvp.
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »
    You completely owned me, I'm changing the subject.

    And I asked around on your server - apparently I think you pk now, but you don't use ultimates. So you still don't technically pk on your wiz.

    Wow, that's very honest/straightforward of you Blood. I'm proud b:cute
  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    noone believes your misquote or your assessment of my honesty.
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »
    noone believes your misquote or your assessment of my honesty.

    denial? ahhaha truth hurts eh?
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Was I wrong in my assessment of what you said? Because it seemed to be a desperate attempt to change subject to me.
  • Snoozer - Lost City
    Snoozer - Lost City Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Mooooooooo - Lost City wrote: »
    what's sarcasm?

    I just push buttons while watching Baywatch reruns and saying "herp derp" and full r9 +12 barbs die.

    Fixed.
  • U_Sasuke - Sanctuary
    U_Sasuke - Sanctuary Posts: 643 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    hahaha kids getting mad at each other, we're all wizard lets make cupcakes not war b:chuckle
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