Sins need to be nerfed QQ

ODANG - Lost City
ODANG - Lost City Posts: 46 Arc User
edited August 2011 in General Discussion
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  • Pyrostormz - Raging Tide
    Pyrostormz - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    i am perfect the way i am !
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  • Sir_Puma - Raging Tide
    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Nah ..

    It's totally fair that a single class can :

    - Heal themselves alone quite well

    - Apparently never miss chi (perma spark, easier for them to refill chi)

    - Kill anything faster then any other class if gets 5 aps

    - Can stealth for ever

    - Can solo anything in a ONLINE world (except maybe delta, have yet to hear a sin solo that)

    - Don't need almost no other skills learned then bloodpaint, stealth and chill

    - Can mostly just auto-attack anything while taking dog out or whatever..


    Ya, it's totally fair and completly promotes people to make rainbow squads.


    P.S" Please note the sarcasm b:bye
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  • Malkomod - Harshlands
    Malkomod - Harshlands Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I don't think its unfair. Other 5 aps classes can solo a lot of things... My leader is 5 aps blademaster and he can solo things too. Since we are alowded to dual client, just bring a sin for the bp buff and there we go!
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ok the options you have are...

    1. roll a sin
    2. deal with it
    3. QQ and find a new game

    b:victoryb:victoryb:victory
  • Malkomod - Harshlands
    Malkomod - Harshlands Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    And anyway everyone is rolling a 5aps sin ... I bet even your grand-pa got one!! So this class is not wanted in squad as much as it was before. Clerics are still wanted in squad, Barbs too... it is hard to find a good barb!
  • OontzOontz - Dreamweaver
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    How about we just move all the sins to their own server. I would like to see that. Just wandering around then suddenly two green dots appear on the map. You rush over, and there's a dead fish on the ground, and then you die too.
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  • Julian - Dreamweaver
    Julian - Dreamweaver Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    - Don't need almost no other skills learned then bloodpaint, stealth and chill
    This is why sins have a hard time leveling in lowbie levels.

    IJS.
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  • Kreuz - Raging Tide
    Kreuz - Raging Tide Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Unlike many other fruits, grapes will not continue to ripen after picking. They will spoil, but they will never become more sweet or juicy. Therefore, the sooner you eat grapes that you purchase, the better they will taste.

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  • Sir_Puma - Raging Tide
    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    it is hard to find a good barb!

    I am trying..

    At least on my server, my barb does get some respect as I often roam over platform just there to offer help for those who can't get a class more OP for their stuff.

    And nope, i'm not a APS dex/fist barb, i'm a normal Demon Vit build one and agro ain't THAT much of a trouble with people his level in squad.

    I'm just really saying sins were made a tad too overpowerful and they game shoudn't "force" anyone to make one to have fun.
    Proud supporter of the new expansion. Sure it has it's share of bugs, like any games. But for a pure farmer/grinder, that's a whole lot of new mobs to go beat up b:chuckle
  • Massad - Harshlands
    Massad - Harshlands Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Discuss

    Didn't you just do one of these threads yesterday?
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  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    hey bp is always good!
    This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
    Proud owner of many mains.101 bm,101 seeker,101 demon sin,100 sage sin,101 archer,101 barb,100 cleric,100 wiz( first toon since sept 08 finally made it in 2013)newly added mystic 100 HA,72 psy.
  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I don't think its a plan to nerf ANY class anytime soon. And if you think sins are abundant, guess again. So many have leveled aps sins on RT that now a days you have a hard finding one right away for the fact that most are leveling alts now.

    Take mine. 4aps and I use my sin mostly for farming mats now (I'm SO digging my barb atm XD). Most of the time I see people looking for a certain aps sin (most look for 4-5 aps) it takes maybe........10-30 mins before I see people not calling out in WC for a sin anymore.

    This mostly applies to squads forming a TT Act2-3, Nirvana, BH, ect. mostly high leveled.
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  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    no need for nerf just balance the rest of the game. Add new skills for all classes that balance it out... that is all that needs to be done (PVP wise)

    PVE wise the game just needs a new instance that considers everything.
  • Equin - Dreamweaver
    Equin - Dreamweaver Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    AHAHAHAH

    sins dont seem so hard to kill to me <O>_<O>
    (except the R9s)
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  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Why do sins stealth? - they can be killed with ease.

    Why do sins get healing abilities? - because they have a VERY hard time on lower levels.

    Why do sins go for R9? - because it's the only way to survive.

    Why people QQ about sins? - because they have not rolled one b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle (note i used to QQ about them, but hell they're fun :] though BM still wins for the most part - hint hint -)

    /endthread
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  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Why do sins stealth? - they can be killed with ease.

    Why do sins get healing abilities? - because they have a VERY hard time on lower levels.

    Why do sins go for R9? - because it's the only way to survive.

    Why people QQ about sins? - because they have not rolled one b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle (note i used to QQ about them, but hell they're fun :] though BM still wins for the most part - hint hint -)

    /endthread


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  • upsides
    upsides Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Why do sins stealth? - they can be killed with ease. (point 1)

    Why do sins get healing abilities? - because they have a VERY hard time on lower levels. (point 2)

    Why do sins go for R9? - because it's the only way to survive. (point 3)

    Why people QQ about sins? - because they have not rolled one b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle (note i used to QQ about them, but hell they're fun :] though BM still wins for the most part - hint hint -) (point 4)

    /endthread

    LC's top Sins can solo a whole squad of R9 without using stealth. So, point 1 debunked.

    Also, the low levels themselves aren't that hard, adequate skill with any class and a half decent guild will pull you through. Point 2 debunked

    I know lots of people in-game who have Sins, either as their main or alt, who also admit that their Sins are OP. Point 4 debunked.

    As for your point 3, no comment.
  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    upsides wrote: »
    LC's top Sins can solo a whole squad of R9 without using stealth. So, point 1 debunked.

    Also, the low levels themselves aren't that hard, adequate skill with any class and a half decent guild will pull you through. Point 2 debunked

    I know lots of people in-game who have Sins, either as their main or alt, who also admit that their Sins are OP. Point 4 debunked.

    As for your point 3, no comment.


    I love you. You just spelled out my some of my learning experience with my very first class. o.o
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  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    upsides wrote: »
    LC's top Sins can solo a whole squad of R9 without using stealth. So, point 1 debunked.

    Also, the low levels themselves aren't that hard, adequate skill with any class and a half decent guild will pull you through. Point 2 debunked

    I know lots of people in-game who have Sins, either as their main or alt, who also admit that their Sins are OP. Point 4 debunked.

    As for your point 3, no comment.

    Lol okay.

    1. You're talking of a small bunch of people which most likely spent a lot of money in their gear / or a lot of no-life time. Or simply the R9 people are completly noobs / were afk while then ROFLMAO.

    2. Well I got my sin to 64 in some days, I have my cleric, so yes I can't say they're hard as I always got healed ;) but not everyone has a cleric to heal them with no pot consumption 24/7 - a decent guild? every decent guild in HT is a TW faction -k.

    3. I never said they weren't OP did I? I simply said, they QQ because they have not rolled one /readb4moaning.

    Got something else, when will PWI nerf them? - not any time soon / never.

    /endthread inb4QQ ;)

    Cya~
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited August 2011

    Cya~

    b:bye

    Now continue the discussion... b:angry

    Yes, i play sin.
    Yes, sin op.
    True.
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  • upsides
    upsides Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Lol okay.

    1. You're talking of a small bunch of people which most likely spent a lot of money in their gear / or a lot of no-life time. Or simply the R9 people are completly noobs / were afk while then ROFLMAO.

    2. Well I got my sin to 64 in some days, I have my cleric, so yes I can't say they're hard as I always got healed ;) but not everyone has a cleric to heal them with no pot consumption 24/7 - a decent guild? every decent guild in HT is a TW faction -k.

    3. I never said they weren't OP did I? I simply said, they QQ because they have not rolled one /readb4moaning.

    Got something else, when will PWI nerf them? - not any time soon / never.

    /endthread inb4QQ ;)

    Cya~


    1- If they were afk there wouldn't be much point in me mentioning the occurrence. Also, the r9 people said Sin killed are/were known pkers in LC, not noobs.

    2- You don't even need a cleric for low lvls, ask/beg a high lvl char to help you.

    3- Look at my post, did I mention anything about you saying they are OP? I was just disproving your point that people QQ about sins because they haven't rolled one.

    As for PWI nerfing Sins, I agree


    All my previous post did was disprove 3 of your points, nothing more, nothing less. If you need help understanding how exactly your points were disproved, ask in the forums, I am sure someone will explain it to you.
  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Lol okay.

    1. You're talking of a small bunch of people which most likely spent a lot of money in their gear / or a lot of no-life time. Or simply the R9 people are completly noobs / were afk while then ROFLMAO.

    2. Well I got my sin to 64 in some days, I have my cleric, so yes I can't say they're hard as I always got healed ;) but not everyone has a cleric to heal them with no pot consumption 24/7 - a decent guild? every decent guild in HT is a TW faction -k.


    Not true. Decent factions are the ones with people you can get along with and have good friends.

    Extra info: I know a lot of PvE/non-TW factions on my server that are VERY active.


    3. I never said they weren't OP did I? I simply said, they QQ because they have not rolled one /readb4moaning.


    You know this how? o.O


    Got something else, when will PWI nerf them? - not any time soon / never.

    /endthread inb4QQ ;)

    Cya~


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  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    @Asone:

    About #2: Very active? May I have an screenshot of how many people a "decent" non FF/Nirv/BH100/TW faction may have? - I have been in really like 20 factions and now my main is finally in a really active faction (56+ players online with 80+ people for TW) now you call that active ;)

    About #3: You said it's your first class, so you can't comment on that lol. I know people which made sins as alts and now the sin is their main because they have a lot of fun with it, - yes they did QQ a lot of them and now they just joined them. - Also I am making a sin and I'm loving it, and loving how people keep QQing about how sins stealth spark and kill on 1/1 / PK. ^ -^


    Ugh, okay got it you guys are gonna nerd-rage and QQ non-stop about it. xD - guess the topic /facepalm

    Simply don't want to shut you guys up - not in a good mood... -, lets continue with the non-Assassin owners QQ - ktybye.

    Actually, why is this topic still open? Isn't this QQ just like a since-sin-was-released old topic which didnt even get anything positive?

    I know its good not to necro threads, but, seriously? again?, pff. Go eat cookies or something better.

    - off to sleep ^^
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  • Cytte - Harshlands
    Cytte - Harshlands Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Lol okay.

    1. You're talking of a small bunch of people which most likely spent a lot of money in their gear / or a lot of no-life time. Or simply the R9 people are completly noobs / were afk while then ROFLMAO. ....actually I've been able to kill r9 w/ npc dags, and I do have a life, and they are a decent player,

    2. Well I got my sin to 64 in some days, I have my cleric, so yes I can't say they're hard as I always got healed ;) but not everyone has a cleric to heal them with no pot consumption 24/7 - a decent guild? every decent guild in HT is a TW faction -k. (For the blue:) then don't. Playing a sin is never hard, if anyone says different they (imo) need to stop hitting their face on the keyboard, and start actually playing.
    By decent guild I would think he meant a helpful one


    3. I never said they weren't OP did I? I simply said, they QQ because they have not rolled one /readb4moaning. I have rolled one, 1-60 In like 4-5 days w/o playing often. played a friend's 100, at all levels they severely outclass all other classes

    Got something else, when will PWI nerf them? - not any time soon / never.

    /endthread inb4QQ ;)

    Cya~

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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ok the options you have are...

    1. roll a sin
    2. deal with it
    3. QQ and find a new game

    b:victoryb:victoryb:victory

    Only braindead idiots swear by that argument. GG PW sins when theres no clerics to buff/heal/rez you, no BMs to buff and HF, No barbs to buff and tank what you cant, No venos to amp and support etc etc.
    Find a real argument that involves some kind of logic or took some manner of thinking to reach for the sake of your class's image.

    I understand this kind of thread is tired but Ffs I don't know how this level and grade of brain phail gets so widely used as an acceptable argument.
  • upsides
    upsides Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    upsides wrote: »
    LC's top Sins can solo a whole squad of R9 without using stealth. So, point 1 debunked.

    Also, the low levels themselves aren't that hard, adequate skill with any class and a half decent guild will pull you through. Point 2 debunked

    I know lots of people in-game who have Sins, either as their main or alt, who also admit that their Sins are OP. Point 4 debunked.

    As for your point 3, no comment.

    ........


    b:bye

    Now continue the discussion... b:angry

    Yes, i play sin.
    Yes, sin op.
    True.

    ..........

    upsides wrote: »
    1- If they were afk there wouldn't be much point in me mentioning the occurrence. Also, the r9 people said Sin killed are/were known pkers in LC, not noobs.

    2- You don't even need a cleric for low lvls, ask/beg a high lvl char to help you.

    3- Look at my post, did I mention anything about you saying they are OP? I was just disproving your point that people QQ about sins because they haven't rolled one.

    As for PWI nerfing Sins, I agree


    All my previous post did was disprove 3 of your points, nothing more, nothing less. If you need help understanding how exactly your points were disproved, ask in the forums, I am sure someone will explain it to you.


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    *filling space*

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    b:chuckle please post meaningful posts next time, and quit trolling


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    Someone should keep count of the number of times Yamiino got proven wrong/ridiculed. I can't help but wonder, is this the guy who taught Yulk all he knows?
  • Sesshomaru - Lothranis
    Sesshomaru - Lothranis Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Dont believe a Sin can take out a full squad of R9s (unless they give a 5 minutes no attack). And you said no stealth too. Lets say all the R9ers just drops ulti on this "Top Sin" of yours, how in the universe can it survive?

    You really gotta prove this lol
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Dont believe a Sin can take out a full squad of R9s (unless they give a 5 minutes no attack). And you said no stealth too. Lets say all the R9ers just drops ulti on this "Top Sin" of yours, how in the universe can it survive?

    You really gotta prove this lol

    Spoken like someone who has never seen Cheze in action. b:cute
  • Kreuz - Raging Tide
    Kreuz - Raging Tide Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Only braindead idiots swear by that argument. GG PW sins when theres no clerics to buff/heal/rez you, no BMs to buff and HF, No barbs to buff and tank what you cant, No venos to amp and support etc etc.
    Find a real argument that involves some kind of logic or took some manner of thinking to reach for the sake of your class's image.

    I understand this kind of thread is tired but Ffs I don't know how this level and grade of brain phail gets so widely used as an acceptable argument.

    I bet he is also this kind of person who will say: " A 2.86 aps sin is better than a 5 aps BM/Archer"

    ^- i read this kind of **** very often recently.
  • Biatch_ - Harshlands
    Biatch_ - Harshlands Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ok the options you have are...

    1. roll a sin
    2. deal with it
    3. QQ and find a new game

    b:victoryb:victoryb:victory


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