Just a consideration about cleric

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver

Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Oh, and we have pretty good DD abilities imo.

Very true. The thread starter probably never played a cleric and is making assumptions.

RawrGummy - Dreamweaver

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Very true. The thread starter probably never played a cleric and is making assumptions.

Checked their Core Connect, and they have an 8x cleric. b:shocked

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver

RawrGummy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Checked their Core Connect, and they have an 8x cleric. b:shocked

oooook, then they're probably just raging because they keep dying or is not playing right...b:chuckle

VoItaire - Harshlands

Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »

@ Harshland peep, you should be the one to shut up, I don't have "all my skills" either with my lower chars.... I have BB, RB, Bramble hood, barrage of arrows, stormrage eagleon, invoke the spirit, sunder and heavens flame on other chars. I dueled even 8x and 9x, with 7x - 8x chars.... I will post pics of my 59+ chars if you really want to see once I have time :P

You did nothing to defend your original argument that cyclone is over powered so my point still stands...

Lesthar - Heavens Tear

To the ones that missed Yulk's trolling... I hope you are happy seeing him again, even if it's for a little while.

To Yulk: I'd go 'whatever' about these topics (why find a logical response -though in your case it's more about subjective views than anything else- and bicker left and right to no end, so you are viewed as a flamebaiter?), but if you have fun doing what you do, I guess it's fine, kinda, perhaps, maybe. *shrugs*

Gwenwyn - Raging Tide

Clerics dont seem to have the offensive punch that a Psy or Wiz has. What a Psy can do in 3 hits, a Cleric needs 5 or 6 hits without the Jones Blessing. With the Blessing its not quite so bad though, about 4 hits to kill something Level 80, which is the level of my cleric and full mag.

Clerics do have an advantage of having spells that deal physical damage though. Which is nice for those "Increased Magic Resistance" mobs that can be annoying for a Psy or Wiz. Double Spark, Razor Feathers, Plume Shot and target is dead.

Clerics also have Ironheart Blessing, which can be spammed if needed without cooldown, and it stacks. Where as a Psy and their Bubble of Life has like a 3 minute cooldown, and that HOT cant be stacked. So its actually easier to die on a Psy if you **** up in one of those oh **** moments. I could run into a normal mob and just pop Ironheart every 10 seconds and let it beat on me forever if I wanted to.

Furthermore, if you say "Level 80 Cleric looking for something to do" on WC, you will get flooded with responses. Its how it is with other games. For every 20 or so damage dealers, there is only about 1 tank and 1 healer. Just about all the WC spam I see for people needing people is for a Cleric or a Tank. Clerics are an Extant (Almost extinct) species lol

Tsukyini - Raging Tide

sibylldevir wrote: »

1 - No decent attack skills (each mob is a difficult battle...and probably die)

What are you fighting, physical mobs? Learn to fight what you're strong against and you'll have an easier time.

2 - Ridicolous Phy defence and HP (so easy to die)

You can use shards/refines to help with this issue.

3 - Easy to take aggro (an die)

Don't heal people being hit unless they've established aggro on the mobs.

4 - Who play cleric need to look the life line of all group...so cant see battle (and die)

For a good portion of fights, you will be sitting motionless inside of a blue ball. Feel free to spend this time moving your camera angles to view the battles if you wish. Other than that, if you can't stand having to watch over health bars, cleric is probably not the class for you.

5 - Others player pretend impossible (heal, resurrection, purify)...u had to work for all group and nobody interest of u....(and u die)

I don't even know what this means. Healing/rezzing/purifying are impossible? If you're doing the healing and purifying parts correctly, resurrection use should be at a minimum.

6 - There are in game bosses PROJECTED specifically TO KILL CLERICS (and clerics die)

Name these bosses.

7 - WHEN U DIE NOBODY RESS YOU

Ever hear of Guardian/Resurrection scrolls? If you care about losing exp or having to walk back, carry them with you. They don't cost that much.

Me and a lot of ppl don't wont ever play cleric.

No one cares. There are plenty of other clerics out there.

Yesterday 7 squad forming 6 are waiting to find a cleric...and wait and wait...Because no clerics more.

Oh, there's clerics out there. Lots of them. It's just that a lot of them prefer to run with faction mates/friends as opposed to playing the squad version of russian roulette.

If staff don't will equilibrate this class, soon another cleric will leave this game.

That's fine, another will take its place.

hiddenmonkey

No one likes to play a cleric because they get abused and mistreated by people like you.

Clerics are powerful, yes they have pretty low hp, are slow, and can't be resed. But they aren't a tank class. They aren't supposed to be.. yes they can tank some bosses like Mantivip since they are magic. But all AA's are better suited to fighting caster bosses. All AA's are slow, and all AA's have poor hp and physical defence.

To be frank if a squad does their ****ing job right and a cleric doesn't do anythnig stupid like heal a crappy tank that doesn't know how to agro mobs so cleric can heal without pulling then a cleric should never die because they are supposed to be in the back lines safe from most danger.

Treat clerics better, maybe mroe people would want to play them. I stopped playing mine because everything was 'my fault' dispite rarely ever being, and couldn't mind my own busienss without getting harassed for buffs or res just going around world.

Lesthar - Heavens Tear

hiddenmonkey wrote: »

No one likes to play a cleric because they get abused and mistreated by people like you.

Clerics are powerful, yes they have pretty low hp, are slow, and can't be resed. But they aren't a tank class. They aren't supposed to be.. yes they can tank some bosses like Mantivip since they are magic. But all AA's are better suited to fighting caster bosses. All AA's are slow, and all AA's have poor hp and physical defence.

To be frank if a squad does their ****ing job right and a cleric doesn't do anythnig stupid like heal a crappy tank that doesn't know how to agro mobs so cleric can heal without pulling then a cleric should never die because they are supposed to be in the back lines safe from most danger.

Treat clerics better, maybe mroe people would want to play them. I stopped playing mine because everything was 'my fault' dispite rarely ever being, and couldn't mind my own busienss without getting harassed for buffs or res just going around world.

Well, clerics can be ressurected... By other clerics, or if they have by the greatest of luck, the mystic's skill still active.

As for the rest, I rather agree with you. A support unit is not made to tank.
If you are a potent healer but are in a party of idiots, imagine the rest.

If one party is wiped out... failure befalls the group for sure, but you can easily guess when one's a lame gamer, it's easier to blame others instead of recognizing the right decision/good timing was not taken/respected be it anyone's fault (and complete dummies are absolute champions in that domain).