Just went sage...

CritCat - Archosaur
CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
edited April 2011 in Assassin
So... what do I do now?
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Kill monsters, get better gear, learn skills, kill people, rinse and repeat.


    Alternatively, be a bit more specific about what you're aiming for.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    1. Get Sage Bloodpaint.
    2. Proceed to QQ because no one takes you anywhere because you're Sage.
    3. Re-roll Demon.

    Note, I'm a Sage sin with no plans of rerolling.
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Whoever doesn't take a sin into a squad because they're Sage is a dumbass. IJS
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Whoever doesn't take a sin into a squad because they're Sage is a dumbass. IJS

    Oh well. I do have people wanting me for nirvana already, though.

    Oh and also, you'll proceed to have a massive headache because dumb demon sins keep overbuffing your sage bp.
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Now you're sage, go work on 90s gear and try to find some of the good sage skills (wolf emblem, bloodpaint, dagger devotion). Best thing to do is to get the full bookclip. it covers several of the good and usefull skills, including bp and devotion.
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    2. Proceed to QQ because no one takes you anywhere because you're Sage.

    I actually found that more and more go sage. Actually, I noticed several demons changed culti to sage (even 1 that told me I was stupid to be sage before lol), and many planning to go sage or "regret" they are demon. The "ppl only go sage on sin to be different", went to "sage is only go when you're rich" and now turned to "good sins go sage. Sage is better when you have you're endgame gear (or 4aps)". It's just as ridiculous ofc, but ppl seem to be incapable of a moderate opinion and feel the urge to point 1 as "best". I really notice a difference between now and when I was begin 90s.
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Whoever doesn't take a sin into a squad because they're Sage is a dumbass. IJS

    b:pleased you always were 1 of the rare who saw good and bad points of both culties. Majority ingame and on forums just follow "ppl say". I tested on my server, and half of the demon sins never looked at sage. Never compared themselves. Those are the ppl that kick on base of aps figure only b:chuckle

    EDIT : @Olbaze : The overbuffing is annoying, ain't it :S I now refuse to buff again when they're in range. If I pm them all individually to make sure they get the message, they still overbuff 90% of the time. So if they don't want it, they don't have to accept my sage bp... Everytime they overbuff I put in "QQ", so at end of a run they ask "what does sage bp do? all bp is same no?"
  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    @Olbaze I guess I can see that happening. I accidentally overbuffed a sage sin (didn't know he was sage)'s buff once in Abaddon, and he gave me quite rude retorts in return. Of course I said I was sorry, but I didn't expect him to be that angry.

    @Empu I kind of don't get why people won't consider looking at both sides of the card (figuratively speaking). I did that, and I could immediately see the benefits of both, and the the slight difference in gameplay for them.

    For me, I could have adapted to either cultivation, and liked both equally. But sadly I ended up choosing demon because of the "Go sage only if you're rich" rumor that I believed. b:surrender
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  • _UnGodly_ - Lost City
    _UnGodly_ - Lost City Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh well. I do have people wanting me for nirvana already, though.

    Oh and also, you'll proceed to have a massive headache because dumb demon sins keep overbuffing your sage bp.

    I always ask sins if they are sage and if they have sage bp. Love that sage bp. I got it, and the following fcc, a sin over buffed it... sigh..
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Empu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Now you're sage, go work on 90s gear and try to find some of the good sage skills (wolf emblem, bloodpaint, dagger devotion). Best thing to do is to get the full bookclip. it covers several of the good and usefull skills, including bp and devotion.

    Sage Wolf Emblem is really tough to find. I think I've seen the book about two times in total, one of which I missed due to oversleeping, other due to lack of coins at the time. I still haven't found one.
    I actually found that more and more go sage. Actually, I noticed several demons changed culti to sage (even 1 that told me I was stupid to be sage before lol), and many planning to go sage or "regret" they are demon. The "ppl only go sage on sin to be different", went to "sage is only go when you're rich" and now turned to "good sins go sage. Sage is better when you have you're endgame gear (or 4aps)". It's just as ridiculous ofc, but ppl seem to be incapable of a moderate opinion and feel the urge to point 1 as "best". I really notice a difference between now and when I was begin 90s.

    Well yes, the opinion seems to have changed. Apparently with the advent of R9, people are slowly starting to realize that high APS does not lead to the best DPS, which in turn was one of the best sides of going Demon.
    EDIT : @Olbaze : The overbuffing is annoying, ain't it :S I now refuse to buff again when they're in range. If I pm them all individually to make sure they get the message, they still overbuff 90% of the time. So if they don't want it, they don't have to accept my sage bp... Everytime they overbuff I put in "QQ", so at end of a run they ask "what does sage bp do? all bp is same no?"

    Yes, I've gotten a lot of that too. Or some of them rebuff after Dreadindra instead of asking for me to buff them. Interestingly, I've been to a few runs where a BM or a Seeker did the pulling and they stopped before the pull to specifically ask me for sage bp.
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    @Olbaze I guess I can see that happening. I accidentally overbuffed a sage sin (didn't know he was sage)'s buff once in Abaddon, and he gave me quite rude retorts in return. Of course I said I was sorry, but I didn't expect him to be that angry.

    Well trust me, it's a headache.

    Personally, I decided on sage because the appeal of high aps was always lost on me and because I wanted my sin to be more than just a brainless, useless DD.
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  • TrueHarmony - Archosaur
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Go get 2nd cast nirvana daggers with god of frenzy and - int on them b:dirty b:chuckle
    Yeah my sig doesn't match my name...i would say im being all clever and trying to confuse people...but im really just too lazy to make a new one
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  • Mauntille - Heavens Tear
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    What others said plus farm the cube of fate until you get sage subsea. That's my new favourite skill. If others know you have that, you'll never have a problem getting a squad again.

    And the overwriting sage bp can be a headache, but it gets better in time if you run with the same people. There are a couple demons sins I run with regularly that take bp off their skill bar as soon as I join squad.
  • Sneakret - Heavens Tear
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Just a quick insight here, though I can't really play to much till next month the majority of sins tend to be demon and thus do not know if you have sage bp. Make it clear when they join squad, just put it out there once everyone is in the group.

    If someone chewed me out for buffing just my normal lvl 10 paint w/o telling me prior to the run that they were sage and had SBP, I'd send their *** off asap. Stupidity is one thing, but expecting someone you haven't met to know your cultivation choice... who's more at fault then.

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    I can see what you see not,
    Vision milky, then eyes rot.
    When you turn, they will be gone,
    Whispering their hidden song.
    Then you see what cannot be,
    Shadows move where light should be.
    Out of darkness, out of mind,
    Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.
  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Just a quick insight here, though I can't really play to much till next month the majority of sins tend to be demon and thus do not know if you have sage bp. Make it clear when they join squad, just put it out there once everyone is in the group.

    You'll be amazed, I wisper all sins "I got sage bp, plz let me buff" or something like that, and even get a reply "ok", still 95% of them overbuff within the 5 min that follow. It really is a pain. Worse is when they say "all bp heals same anyway" then "what's your aps sparked btw?" b:shutup
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Sage Wolf Emblem is really tough to find. I think I've seen the book about two times in total, one of which I missed due to oversleeping, other due to lack of coins at the time. I still haven't found one.

    Well yes, the opinion seems to have changed. Apparently with the advent of R9, people are slowly starting to realize that high APS does not lead to the best DPS, which in turn was one of the best sides of going Demon.

    I got sage wolf emblem out of ah. I just bid on it (roughly 6mil), and went to work/sleep and got it. I was really happy :P At that time it was still the "Only weird idiots go sage cause there's no reason to go sage at all cause demonspark > everything"-era. If the starting bid was 10k, I'd prolly still be the only one to bid at that time lol.

    On aps, I now got the privilege off being able to refuse with any squad asking for my aps (My gear is good enough to be asked all the time for almost anything now). When I pm to join some random wc squad and they ask for my aps, I just tell them "I don't want to go with idiots that prefer *link of leg 60 fists* to *link of r9 daggers*. You can get another DD". That always makes them beg for me to come b:laugh
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Empu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I got sage wolf emblem out of ah. I just bid on it (roughly 6mil), and went to work/sleep and got it. I was really happy :P At that time it was still the "Only weird idiots go sage cause there's no reason to go sage at all cause demonspark > everything"-era. If the starting bid was 10k, I'd prolly still be the only one to bid at that time lol.

    Well, I check the AH daily for Sage Wolf Emblem and I have only ever seen one. I missed that because there was no buy-out price and I was overbidded while sleeping.
    On aps, I now got the privilege off being able to refuse with any squad asking for my aps (My gear is good enough to be asked all the time for almost anything now). When I pm to join some random wc squad and they ask for my aps, I just tell them "I don't want to go with idiots that prefer *link of leg 60 fists* to *link of r9 daggers*. You can get another DD". That always makes them beg for me to come b:laugh

    Well that is a a rare priviledge.
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  • Sneakret - Heavens Tear
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Lol Emp that'll show 'em b:victory

    But yea, idiots will be idiots lol. Sometimes it's just habit I suppose. Was coming back to slap myself for not mentioning the sage fairy and all but seems no one got me for it or my fail grammar xD.
    I can see what you see not,
    Vision milky, then eyes rot.
    When you turn, they will be gone,
    Whispering their hidden song.
    Then you see what cannot be,
    Shadows move where light should be.
    Out of darkness, out of mind,
    Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    w/o

    Newb!
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well trust me, it's a headache.
    Yeah, level 11 BP only costs 1/4 of your entire MP pool.
    I know how it feels in a way. I talk BH59 and 51 a lot when I'm bored, and I freaking HATE it when another sin over-debuffs my Ribstrike..

    Dude, what level is your Ribstrike?

    5! b:victory

    b:cold Please let me Ribstrike...I have level 10...
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yeah, level 11 BP only costs 1/4 of your entire MP pool.
    I know how it feels in a way. I talk BH59 and 51 a lot when I'm bored, and I freaking HATE it when another sin over-debuffs my Ribstrike..

    Dude, what level is your Ribstrike?

    5! b:victory

    b:cold Please let me Ribstrike...I have level 10...

    I've been told a few times not to Rib Strike because of the HP debuff effect on Sage Rib Strike.
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    If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.
  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I've been told a few times not to Rib Strike because of the HP debuff effect on Sage Rib Strike.

    By the bm with deicides? b:laugh
  • CritCat - Archosaur
    CritCat - Archosaur Posts: 608 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Farm TT?

    Sorry, this is my first toon I've ever gotten to this level.

    I have no idea what to do.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Empu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    By the bm with deicides? b:laugh

    Not really. Once was by a barb.

    But yes, it is rather ironic that they complain about my debuff but not Deicides. In fact it seems to be the opposite, people welcome Deicide because "it speeds up things". Kinda ironic since the 10% debuff on rib strike I can do whenever I want.

    And btw, your previous post about you replying to people asking for your aps when you have R9 kinda makes me want to +10 my R8 dagger.
    I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
    If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    does it cost a lot to reroll/change to sage after going demon? i personally love demon BUT... if i had 4aps then i really dont think i would miss the extra hit per sec IF i could get 3% back and have higher base damage... so im demon now... if i get 4aps then i could see wanting sage more...
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    does it cost a lot to reroll/change to sage after going demon? i personally love demon BUT... if i had 4aps then i really dont think i would miss the extra hit per sec IF i could get 3% back and have higher base damage... so im demon now... if i get 4aps then i could see wanting sage more...

    200 mirages, a Celestial Schism Mold (10 Gold from Boutique) and level 100 Cultivation. The last part is the hardest.

    Oh, and all of your Demon skills are reset to level 10.

    Also, you do realize that to have 4 aps as a Sage, you need every single piece of -interval in the game?
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    If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.
  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    if i get 4aps then i could see wanting sage more...

    If you say things like this, just stay demon lol. It's obvious you don't see the reasons to go sage. You'll end up re-changing culti to demon when you get to r9 or g15 vana anyway. b:surrender
  • MoonMio - Heavens Tear
    MoonMio - Heavens Tear Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    lol, saw Sage Wolf Emblem for 1mil and bought a sage Focused Mind for 125k... xD probly not many sage sins on my server
  • Razorburn - Dreamweaver
    Razorburn - Dreamweaver Posts: 188 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Well one reason your sage bp gets over wrote is if demon sin has demon bp he /she may want to have + evasion more. Cant see sage bp mattering much to a demon sin if well geared an refined. Only time im in danger of death is from a single hit most generally.
  • Wunderkind - Dreamweaver
    Wunderkind - Dreamweaver Posts: 315 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    CritCat - Archosaur wrote: »
    So... what do I do now?

    I hope you race to 100 do culti and switch to demon.
    Currently: pwcalc.com/b4c92dacf1da8c21
  • Crones - Heavens Tear
    Crones - Heavens Tear Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    MoonMio - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lol, saw Sage Wolf Emblem for 1mil and bought a sage Focused Mind for 125k... xD probly not many sage sins on my server
    Omg ur the dude that outbid me for my sin i hates you >.<
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  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I've only ever seen Sage Wolf Emblem for 15m in AH. What is this. :(
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  • SoulRequiem - Sanctuary
    SoulRequiem - Sanctuary Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    <--- Went sage the other day b:avoid
    WTB>More Fash
    Currently Want-to-buy list>>(W=White;B=Black;A=Any color)
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    <---Was talked out of going Sage b:avoid
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