What's the rock-paper-scissors of classes?

Longknife - Harshlands
Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
edited April 2011 in General Discussion
Just curious what people believe their class is strong and work against in regards to the other classes. Curious if we'll all have similar views or very different ones.


Personally, as a Psy?

Psy is strong against Assassins, Seekers and Barbs.
Psy can experience a very fun and fair fight against Blademasters, and venos is situational, so it's also fair (though not as fun cause it always feels like one is jumping the other, lulz).
Psy is weak against Clerics and Mystics.
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  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Interesting thread. As a 'sin, I do believe I am vulnerable to psy's mostly. BM's are a hassle, but can be dealt with fairly easy. I am strong against clerics, wizards and venos.
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  • Rayne_ - Harshlands
    Rayne_ - Harshlands Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    As a Psychic I've noticed I never win unless I use Soulburn, but that's only if I manage to pull it off before my opponent kills me.

    My skills are terrible for damage against Wizards and a Blademaster the same level as me butchered me maybe 7-8 times in a row earlier.

    My skills are upgraded properly for my level, my weapon and Magic stat are up to par for my level, but I still lose every time.

    As a Barbarian I lose every single time to Fist Blademasters, Venomancers and Wizards. I simply can't fight APS or magic damage. Clerics aren't so much of a problem, but still beat me sometimes.
    Assassins are high powered. 10 levels lower than me with proper skills and equipment and I can win easily, but not without a long fight. Charms don't help it get any faster either. Jumping a lot really helps to keep them on their toes when they stealth and keep them from stunning you on the ground. If you're in the air they either wait or waste time trying to get to you. I find they don't win unless they go straight at me immediately.

    Maybe I lose a lot because I'm just a re.tard, but I maintain my ongoing hatred of PVP.
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  • Man - Raging Tide
    Man - Raging Tide Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sin

    Exceptional: arcane

    Good Against: Barbs bms Psy

    Poor: none

    barb

    Exceptional: All

    Good Against: Sins / Blademasters / Seekers

    Poor:Barbarians

    Cleric

    Exceptional: Barbs, venos

    Good Against: Arcane

    Poor: Archers, Sins


    Idk it just comes down too

    magic dmg can pew pew heavy armor

    Phschical dmg classes can pew pew arcane.

    Game wasn't really balanced for 1 v 1 but there seems to be an alright balance nonetheless.

    Sins > All in 1 v1 at least.*

    2 interesting matches from my perspective are Psy vs Wizard and Wizard vs Cleric. In these matches which do you think has the advantage?


    * a field of battle where the reflect mechanic does not work.
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    BM

    strong against: none

    weak against: none 1v1, everybody and their ageing grandmother in mass pvp
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  • Kurerikku - Dreamweaver
    Kurerikku - Dreamweaver Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    rock = physical melee, paper = arcane, scissors = physical ranged, nuclear bomb = assassin
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  • Cheze - Lost City
    Cheze - Lost City Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXX8URSUWm0
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Cheze - Lost City wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXX8URSUWm0

    Lmfao
    I guess scissors are sin
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  • HeavensRage - Raging Tide
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Cheze - Lost City wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXX8URSUWm0

    This pretty much, except even worse.
  • Cheze - Lost City
    Cheze - Lost City Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide wrote: »
    This pretty much, except even worse.

    Ok here's the PWI analogy of the vid.

    Sins are Scissors.

    Psychics are Rocks.

    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.

    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.

    Paper beats Rock.

    Scissors beats Paper.

    Scissors also happens to beat Rock...

    ...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.

    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE.
  • _Petal_ - Harshlands
    _Petal_ - Harshlands Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Cheze - Lost City wrote: »
    Ok here's the PWI analogy of the vid.

    Sins are Scissors.

    BM's are Rocks.

    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Psychics, Wizards, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.

    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.

    Paper beats Rock.

    Scissors beats Paper.

    Scissors also happens to beat Rock...

    ...until Rock gets 5aps like scissors at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.

    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE.

    Fixed that for you....
    Unless you have the time to soulburn rock... Rock beats you. >.>;
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    Lmfao
    I guess scissors are sin

    Yes. Archers and sins are rogue classes.
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  • Yhumy - Dreamweaver
    Yhumy - Dreamweaver Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    gms are the nuke that kills all.

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  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    In soviet Russia...paper cuts YOU.
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  • HeavensRage - Raging Tide
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    _Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    Fixed that for you....
    Unless you have the time to soulburn rock... Rock beats you. >.>;

    You've never played an endgame psychic.
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You've never played a GOOD endgame psychic.

    Fixed.
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  • Cheze - Lost City
    Cheze - Lost City Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    you don't need to be good, i wanna see a bm kill an AFK +12 psy without using immune pots. yeah not gonna happen
  • Arenaceous - Lost City
    Arenaceous - Lost City Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Cheze - Lost City wrote: »
    you don't need to be good, i wanna see a bm kill an AFK +12 psy without using immune pots. yeah not gonna happen

    Wait till buffs run out, he cannot recast since he is afk -> dead psy. Now where is my cookie :O
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    hehehe,
    white head is sin, black head is whatever other class:

    http://www.avatarsdb.com/avatars/fighting_funny.gif

    That's the PWI balance.
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Cheze - Lost City wrote: »
    you don't need to be good, i wanna see a bm kill an AFK +12 psy without using immune pots. yeah not gonna happen

    I already saw a BM kill a +12 psy without immune pot.... (yes, +12 armor too)
    It's really rare xP
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  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    End-game psy's aren't hard to kill. The only issue I ever have with them is their reflect skill cause of APS :s

    Then again.....

    roar > Spark > punch > drake's bash

    pretty sure either me or the psy is dead by now :X
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    _Perses_ - Lost City wrote: »
    End-game psy's aren't hard to kill. The only issue I ever have with them is their reflect skill cause of APS :s

    Then again.....

    roar > Spark > punch > drake's bash

    pretty sure either me or the psy is dead by now :X

    On end game psy's, soul of silence seal's you every 2nd hit, meaning you spend more time sealed than being able to attack.
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    On end game psy's, soul of silence seal's you every 2nd hit, meaning you spend more time sealed than being able to attack.

    This.

    I've gone AFK with buffs from an endgame psy and a charm on and came back to find PMs from people who suicided against me.

    What Cheze said holds true. Endgame Psy's are unstoppable killing machines that would kill sins... except they can't find sins. 'Cause sins are invisible.
  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sins are the not paper, scissors or rock. They are fire that burns paper, melts scissors and cracks rocks.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Psy > archer
    Sin > archer
    Barb = archer
    Veno < archer
    BM = archer
    Wiz < archer
    Cleric < archer
    Seeker > archer
    Mystic > archer

    non-R9 anyway
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Cheze - Lost City wrote: »
    you don't need to be good, i wanna see a bm kill an AFK +12 psy without using immune pots. yeah not gonna happen

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  • HealingBliss - Lost City
    HealingBliss - Lost City Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Psy > archer
    Sin > archer
    Barb = archer
    Veno < archer
    BM = archer
    Wiz < archer
    Cleric < archer
    Seeker > archer
    Mystic > archer

    non-R9 anyway

    I find archers the easiest class to kill on my cleric? x.x
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  • Hudini - Harshlands
    Hudini - Harshlands Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Psy > archer
    Sin > archer
    Barb = archer
    Veno < archer
    BM = archer
    Wiz < archer
    Cleric < archer
    Seeker > archer
    Mystic > archer

    non-R9 anyway

    I see, and this is from your extensive amount of pvp experience is it?
  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Archer > TW
    Archer < PK
    Archer > Anyone healing/hitting someone else
    Archer < Anyone hitting the archer
    Archer < 1v1
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Hudini - Harshlands wrote: »
    I see, and this is from your extensive amount of pvp experience is it?

    Is this another lame attempt at saying PvP server > PvE servers?
  • Hudini - Harshlands
    Hudini - Harshlands Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Is this another lame attempt at saying PvP server > PvE servers?

    No this is an attempt to point out that most of your assumptions up there are wrong.

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