WTB > Level cap for FC

X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear

It means people have to explore the world map for quests, and maybe even take up fishing once again.

Wayyyy too much effort needed to do the above for people these days....

Fintan - Lost City

Personally, I'm in favor of Frost becoming what it once was. I think the complaints would be naturally negated. (And replaced with QQing from people who want to just level level level, no matter the cost. b:chuckle)

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

brent40 wrote: »

Ok rawg rawr whatever, i'll just assume you are one of the asshats that contribuite to the exploit for personal gain... And could careless how it may effect them in the long run.. So when that newbie ask you how to even get to 1k, lemme guess youd even offer them a ride too heh?

Stop ******** about how others choose to play the game, if they decide that early game content is boring, mindless, and repetitive, and they choose to power level, then that's their choice.

Knownase - Heavens Tear

brent40 wrote: »

Ok rawg rawr whatever, i'll just assume you are one of the asshats that contribuite to the exploit for personal gain... And could careless how it may effect them in the long run.. So when that newbie ask you how to even get to 1k, lemme guess youd even offer them a ride too heh?

Exploit? When its those who are willing to pay to power lvl up, it is not like we demand ppl to pwrlvl their alts.

As for gain, I prefer to think of it as a friendly service for those who wish to power lvl.

Besides, we all know that killing 50 of 1 mob, then 75 of another mob is soooooooooooooooooooo fun.

and +1 to Rawrgh's last post as well. It is their way of playing, let them be.

vristion

lol at all the money makers in here defending the ability to do this....
useing the argument "let them play like they want to play"


they sit back counting coins while newbs try useing lvl 10 purehearted blessing as their main heal. or dont learn roar, well "because it dont do damage" <

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just got from a lvl 84 BM the other day.

but why would they care, they have high levels they don't have to put up with the idiots trying to enter instances with them

Ois - Lost City

vristion wrote: »

lol at all the money makers in here defending the ability to do this....
useing the argument "let them play like they want to play"


they sit back counting coins while newbs try useing lvl 10 purehearted blessing as their main heal. or dont learn roar, well "because it dont do damage" <

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just got from a lvl 84 BM the other day.

but why would they care, they have high levels they don't have to put up with the idiots trying to enter instances with them

Is that a joke?

No matter your level you will end up squading with complete idiots. Just s t fu or solo.

brent40

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Stop ******** about how others choose to play the game, if they decide that early game content is boring, mindless, and repetitive, and they choose to power level, then that's their choice.

Yes! because a genuine newbie really needs 40+ levels handed over, along with the plethora of skills he has no earthly idea about all at once.

I never said I give a rats *** about PLing. In fact if you may have read into what I was meaning, instead of picking and prodding it as an attack towards your self centered advantages in game, you would see the applied logic to the negative effects it could/has have.

I PL all my alts myself, so its NOT about PLing in general.... Its this paticular method is 1)cheaper, meaning ANY common newbie can gain not only access, but 40 times the levels they would have gained from even the older methods of PLing...IE Zhen squads-oracles... Oracles, and Zhening atleast took time, and for most part even a real newbie would learn each skill as he somewhat gradually levels up.. why? because he/she would have to use them in these methods..

The heads method can slam a person up to lvl 70s for less than a million coin... then what do you have? Level 70s running around trying to do BHs, eventually FCs, they will need TT runs... or worse they wont even know what all of that **** is...why? because they didnt grow with the game..All that time spended, with "boring, mindless, and repetitive" quest for new people gives them time to actually learn what TT is about, what FC entrails, what BHs do, even where the CS ladies are...

But then again, why do you care? You'll sit in instance runs with vetran players, come to the forums to laugh at the "worst thing said in a BH" threads... And gloat that you won't have to put up with that ****.

Zarni - Dreamweaver

Best fix would be:

FC level 70+ to enter

FIX REBIRTH 1k GLITCH (simply add an option at the spiritual disciple in 1k that is linked to the quest given by the "return to battle" pillar in happy valley, so if you get "1k'd", you just go back in) and double the exp reward for completing

Truth: ain't gonna happen
hyper-power-frostasaurus-levelmania makes heavy cash-shopping easy and fun (for some)

/vainhopes

_Petal_ - Harshlands

Wow, I generated tons of hatemail in less than an hour.

Personally, I've always believed that FC needs a cap of at the MOST...level 75. You get the quests then. You ought to play the game that long. Learn.
I'm all for "play it your way".

But enabling mindless idiots to powerlevel and faceroll is not helping the game or the community...at all.

Rawrgh, brent probably has more sense in one toenail with his arguments than you have in almost every post I've seen you type up. (On this topic.) You too Knownase.
You both disappoint me in this topic. Hopefully you do better on my next controversy topic.

a famous saying: "If it's not YOUR problem, then it's not a problem. Only when it becomes YOUR problem, is it then a problem."

Naturally, this whole powerleveling thing isn't a problem for you, because you profit from it. So of course you are naturally for it. It doesn't effect you negatively.
Now, if I posted a conversation about Barb skills, you would be a little more considerate. That's because it effects you. Therefore, you care more.

The heads method can slam a person up to lvl 70s for less than a million coin... then what do you have? Level 70s running around trying to do BHs, eventually FCs, they will need TT runs... or worse they wont even know what all of that **** is...why? because they didnt grow with the game..All that time spended, with "boring, mindless, and repetitive" quest for new people gives them time to actually learn what TT is about, what FC entrails, what BHs do, even where the CS ladies are...

But then again, why do you care? You'll sit in instance runs with vetran players, come to the forums to laugh at the "worst thing said in a BH" threads... And gloat that you won't have to put up with that ****.

Brilliantly put. End of story.

I believe there's a REASON why oracles are labeled for certain levels. The caps on certain types of oracles were simply there to PREVENT that kind of powerleveling. (And then they added hypers, and god only knows how much worse it's going to get.)

Speaking of which, since you "pro" people seem to point out that the quests are obviously repetitive...what's so enticing about following your main around while they mount up gear damage just to hit 100 again get bored, and roll another character?
....over...
....and over....
....and over again?

Or how about spamming oracles and killing the same mob (at the danger of being PK'd because the Oracle areas are some of the hottest spots to kick butt in) over and over again mindlessly while racking up gear damage on your alt? (Which, you can't pay for, because YOU'RE too lazy to quest! Good job.)

If those people who think beginning and middle game content is boring...they obviously haven't the brainpower to imagine endgame.

Newsflash to all you powerlevelers without 9x alts:

This is what you do at endgame, depending on the server.

PvP Server: Kill things. Nirvana. Death by sin. TW. Bored. Roll alt.
PvE Sever: Nirvana. PK mode. Death by sin. Get bored. Roll alt.

Hint to Developing Team:
If it takes them longer to level, think of all the stuff they'd have to buy from your Boutique in order to level quicker? I could only imagine some people would buy hypers and esoterica out the **** if FC suddenly got capped...at 75... b:mischievous

they say time is money SO therefore...

Time lengthened for leveling = Greater amounts of money spent trying to level.

Getting the picture yet?

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Most of you people replying are freaking idiots... seriously.

The game was far more fun when people weren't concerned with hitting 100 as fast as they can. That type of gaming is a product of PW marketing to maximize their profit potential, and guess what, most of you eat it up without even realizing it.

The game was more fun, easier to make friends and less about greed than it is now.

It was more fun because you got to know all the people you were questing with and as you were leveling up and farming. Instead of getting to know a frost squad after a week's worth of runs.... you used to quest and the people you saw questing from level 30-40 would be the same people you ran into months later when you were questing from 70-80, and you spent many hours grinding and helping.

It was easier to make friends and as a higher level player, you used to constantly help with lower level FBs and people who needed cultis... I don't know how many people I got to know this way and how many times these people would ask or invite you to their FBs as they leveled up... over the span of months. The game did have a slower pace and making coin was far easier without merching or cash shopping. All this was more conducive to having fun actually playing the game.

Now, it's all about getting your fast Nirvana or 3-1/2/3 runs. If you can't get all your gear in a few days, there's no fun left in the game anymore. Rush to end-game, cash shop or farm like crazy... for what exactly? There is no real end game content that needs end game gear. PW forgot about that. Purposely. Hurry up and push you to the door so they can charge you and once you get in, you're in a mostly empty room with a bunch of other greedy f**ks staring at each other saying "now what".... "roll another toooooon!!!111!".

Sure, it's a game, play it how you want... but oddly when it was harder to level and there weren't many short cuts, people didn't complain as much. In fact there are more responses to threads stating "the pace of leveling is just fine" as opposed to "we want to level faster". Yes, a while back I took several hours and actually searched the forums chronologically to make a comparison. It was more fun than actually playing the game had become.

Taking one of the best Asian grind mmos and turning it into a game designed for the Americanized fast food drive through crowd hasn't done much to draw in new players or keep old ones. The population of the servers is nowhere near what it used to be. All the cat-shops missing from where they used to be in all the minor towns pretty much shows that. Yes, be happy now because you play your game in your little bubble, but the MM part of the game ended up dropping the "massive" ages ago. Enjoy.


On topic: I would have said yes to the poll, except this is a year and a half too late. Damage has already been done.

Okeano - Harshlands

_Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »

Discuss.
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WTS > Your opinion doesn't matter.
Discuss.

scarfaceclaw

I dont care at all about power-leveling, if people want to do it fine let them.

BUT technically your not supposed to Fc until lvl 75, but people circumvent this by opening the door and then leaving squad to allow under 75's to join the squad, surely this is exploiting a bug and should be abolished.

CivicSouL - Heavens Tear

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

I would have said yes to the poll, except this is a year and a half too late. Damage has already been done.

^ this, 100% agree with what u said.... Unfortunately... ur right b:cry

ResMePls - Heavens Tear

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

Most of you people replying are freaking idiots... seriously.

The game was far more fun when people weren't playing the game I think it should be played.

The game was more fun, easier to make friends and less about greed than it is now.

It was more fun because everyone played the game the way to my benefit and it made me happeh . When they stopped I craied cuz they would not be my friend anymore T_T.

It was easier to make friends and as a higher level player, you used to constantly help with lower level FBs and people who needed cultis... I don't know how many people I got to know this way and how many times these people would ask or invite you to their FBs as they leveled up... over the span of months. The game did have a slower pace and making coin was far easier without merching or cash shopping. All this was more conducive to having fun actually playing the game.

Now, it's all about getting your fast Nirvana or 3-1/2/3 runs. If you can't get all your gear in a few days, there's no fun left in the game anymore. Rush to end-game, cash shop or farm like crazy... for what exactly? There is no real end game content that needs end game gear. PW forgot about that. Purposely. Hurry up and push you to the door so they can charge you and once you get in, you're in a mostly empty room with a bunch of other greedy f**ks staring at each other saying "now what".... "roll another toooooon!!!111!".

Sure, it's a game, play it how you want... Therefore there should be cap on FC cause I dun like you guys who level faster then I did >_>, make me mad k?

Taking one of the best Asian grind mmos and turning it into a game designed for American QQers who think swiping the cred card is the way to win, making PWI's wallet fatter and fatter. They make the Jews look poooar o_O.

On topic: I would have said yes to the poll, except I am to lazy to press the the Yes button even though it will not effect the game in anyway, although it would make my self esteem go up +10000 cuz clearly I pwn all those cashshopped Pleveld nubs .

My interpretationb:cry.

Telarith - Sanctuary

Unless you joined one of the top 3 servers in the first month of its play, your opinion is utter ****.

The fun of today compared to firstgen is not even worth comparing. I still remember trying to lvl my butt of on my then alt cleric which became a main just to beat everyone else in the server for class-wise level. And the only cleric who maintained above me only managed it becuase of their BM husband. When they tried to solo grind the same lvl mobs I was, they took 2 more spells to finish. Going from days behind to beating someone a few levels ahead was such a rush, no one currently could understand it. Simply because the difference of weeks of play before, is now just hours of play currently.

Every firstgen loved the pace the game was going at. We would feel proud if we beat our fellow grinders by a few days to the new grind spot, and share it just the same. It wasn't even about faction vs. faction, because the fast leveler of each faction had to work out the rules of pk at the new grind spot. They could either live harmoniously, or pk the **** out of eachother based of which faction you were in. And even in the "carebear" server Sancutary the first PK battle erupted in the very first week and was solved with the dissolution of one of the factions from constant death.

So unless you were in HT, LC, or Sanc in the very first month of creation, your opinion doesn't mean ****. You have no idea how the servers evolved, and as such have no perspective to offer. The leveling scene is very different, but I vastly prefer the old way to the new way.

ResMePls - Heavens Tear

Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »

Unless you joined one of the top 3 servers in the first month of its play, your opinion is utter ****.

QQ ima old bum that cannot get out mah bed to Plevel enough...Im sick of all those ppl who spent a week getting to 100 while had to burn mah eyes out de ol sockets grinding for years until I could finally use TT70!!!Omg im so PrOfeSSionaL.

Is this what you were saying basically???

Telarith - Sanctuary

ResMePls - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Is this what you were saying basically???

No, just pointing out something obvious to everyone who isn't a complete ****ing idiot.

Trying to compare one thing to another is one thing.

Trying to compare one thing you have no idea what it is like to another, is a completely different matter.

Newgen should shut the **** up, because by logical default they are complete idiots for even trying to put forth a comparison that they have no idea to base off of. Which is why we mock you morons.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Please, I was in lost city the very day the game went into open beta, and people exaggerate how much fun it was.


Was there fun times? Absolutely, we all had our fun and our gits and shiggles and it was great, at times.

But in their nostalgia I think these people are over romanticizing the older days of PWI.


There were the good times, the rush of being the first to achieve a certain level, some people used to wet their pants when they finally got level 89. There was good and exciting PvP, absolutely.


But there was also the boredom. Spending 8 hours grinding for 30% was in no way, shape, or form, fun. And this uber exciting pvp was really just a short break, before you would go back to spending all day killing the same mobs over, and over, and over, and over. Seriously, it wasn't fun, at all. When you leveled up you were able to do all your new quests and get, maybe, 10%. And then you would do your world quest and crazy stone and then.... well nothing really, that was it. You would grind, for hours on end, killing the same mobs over and over and over and over again.


So yes, there were these amazing times, but there was also the ridiculous amount of hours that needed to be put in to get even part of a level.

Wunderkind - Dreamweaver

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Please, I was in lost city the very day the game went into open beta, and people exaggerate how much fun it was.


Was there fun times? Absolutely, we all had our fun and our gits and shiggles and it was great, at times.

But in their nostalgia I think these people are over romanticizing the older days of PWI.


There were the good times, the rush of being the first to achieve a certain level, some people used to wet their pants when they finally got level 89. There was good and exciting PvP, absolutely.


But there was also the boredom. Spending 8 hours grinding for 30% was in no way, shape, or form, fun. And this uber exciting pvp was really just a short break, before you would go back to spending all day killing the same mobs over, and over, and over, and over. Seriously, it wasn't fun, at all. When you leveled up you were able to do all your new quests and get, maybe, 10%. And then you would do your world quest and crazy stone and then.... well nothing really, that was it. You would grind, for hours on end, killing the same mobs over and over and over and over again.


So yes, there were these amazing times, but there was also the ridiculous amount of hours that needed to be put in to get even part of a level.

So what I got from that was.....oh hey nothing's changed. We just do grinding in FC now. b:surrender

Telarith - Sanctuary

Wunderkind - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So what I got from that was.....oh hey nothing's changed. We just do grinding in FC now. b:surrender

Nah, he simplified alot.

For me, I was always in the top 5 levels of the server on Sanc from opening. Everyone who was high lvl was PK set, so they can't try to say it was different between pk and pve servers. You had alot more comraderie between your fellow levels between factions in PvE grind spots that went away in events such as Dragon Temple, where you would form unique squads and sometimes had group vs. group or faction vs. faction warfare. Then there was KoS which also added to the fun.

For me, I came up with the cleric lure AoE idea that was intensive in play and made paying attention to your radar very important. It maximized leveling potential as a cleric, at the expense of safety should someone snipe you mid-pull. But you would also know who was killing you, and involve a whole social aspect that is completely missing in current run of the mill playing. Sometimes you would just split a mob group with someone grinding in same area, team up with others from rival factions for moth and fishing parties, or end up splintering off and forming whole new factions. It might have helped that I was also after drops since I was leveling all 4 skills at the time and needed to farm the mobs, but the old barb method of farming was boring compared to tanking 20+ mobs with normal gear as a cleric with one **** up meaning death.

I don't romanticize it, as that part was fun. What I did not enjoy, was morons in faction whining every 30 mins to come do FB 51 for the 5th fricking time that day despite being told to at least wait an hour to prevent repeating the same thing once again. Everytime I did an FB, I lost xp compared to what I was doing and it wasn't fun given invariably someone would do something stupid and die. That part I did not enjoy and will never claim to. But actually playing my cleric and slaughtering mobs by the boatload when everyone said it was impossible was pretty damn fun.

_Aubree__ - Dreamweaver

WTS heads 500k a spot b:victory pm me

Wunderkind - Dreamweaver

Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nah, he simplified alot.

For me, I was always in the top 5 levels of the server on Sanc from opening. Everyone who was high lvl was PK set, so they can't try to say it was different between pk and pve servers. You had alot more comraderie between your fellow levels between factions in PvE grind spots that went away in events such as Dragon Temple, where you would form unique squads and sometimes had group vs. group or faction vs. faction warfare. Then there was KoS which also added to the fun.

For me, I came up with the cleric lure AoE idea that was intensive in play and made paying attention to your radar very important. It maximized leveling potential as a cleric, at the expense of safety should someone snipe you mid-pull. But you would also know who was killing you, and involve a whole social aspect that is completely missing in current run of the mill playing. Sometimes you would just split a mob group with someone grinding in same area, team up with others from rival factions for moth and fishing parties, or end up splintering off and forming whole new factions. It might have helped that I was also after drops since I was leveling all 4 skills at the time and needed to farm the mobs, but the old barb method of farming was boring compared to tanking 20+ mobs with normal gear as a cleric with one **** up meaning death.

I don't romanticize it, as that part was fun. What I did not enjoy, was morons in faction whining every 30 mins to come do FB 51 for the 5th fricking time that day despite being told to at least wait an hour to prevent repeating the same thing once again. Everytime I did an FB, I lost xp compared to what I was doing and it wasn't fun given invariably someone would do something stupid and die. That part I did not enjoy and will never claim to. But actually playing my cleric and slaughtering mobs by the boatload when everyone said it was impossible was pretty damn fun.

For me 99.9999% of old players complain about who they grinding so long to level and when they get on alts every time they step in FC I give them a barrage of WTF back in your day you grind out your levels what are you doing in FC?

They no longer complain when I'm around. b:cute

L_y_n_x - Raging Tide

My opinion now..As if it will matter anyway...

Not against :

People who pay to powerlevel an alt. If they can afford it, they want to save the eternally dull mines section and all those arch quests ? Sure, if they can, go ahead. They have a main already, they explored, they know the map, where stuff is. Some don't love to quest, it's their right. Some do..It's like the Yin and the Yang. Takes both to run the game. So stop arguing on that b:bye

Against :

A pro player taking a total newcomer to PW to FC : "Look i'm gonna show you the game, come to FC !"
In those cases, that person WILL be still be treated as noob and be left whitout seeing anything of the world. Won't even know difference between gold, blue, white, purple quests and won't even want to go back cause of lousy exp it will give at lvl 100.

"Aww i have to do culti to get new skills ? I thought I could be pro by using draw blood on my BM end-game" b:surrender


A complicated solution perhaps ? Hmm..a account check.:

You have a char that dropped Holeen..account is "tagged" as "been there, done that"
Else you don't enter before 75 , period..

But what if u have a 2nd account ?

Well if ur first one is full of lvl 100's. They have enough cash to supply a "noob" on your 2nd account to hyper/oracle his way to tag along in a FC run.

Weord solution, dunno..just want to find one that would please both sides of the medal b:sad

Empu - Sanctuary

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

It was easier to make friends and as a higher level player, you used to constantly help with lower level FBs and people who needed cultis... I don't know how many people I got to know this way and how many times these people would ask or invite you to their FBs as they leveled up... over the span of months. The game did have a slower pace and making coin was far easier without merching or cash shopping. All this was more conducive to having fun actually playing the game.

Now, it's all about getting your fast Nirvana or 3-1/2/3 runs. If you can't get all your gear in a few days, there's no fun left in the game anymore. Rush to end-game, cash shop or farm like crazy... for what exactly? There is no real end game content that needs end game gear. PW forgot about that. Purposely. Hurry up and push you to the door so they can charge you and once you get in, you're in a mostly empty room with a bunch of other greedy f**ks staring at each other saying "now what".... "roll another toooooon!!!111!".

Sure, it's a game, play it how you want... but oddly when it was harder to level and there weren't many short cuts, people didn't complain as much. In fact there are more responses to threads stating "the pace of leveling is just fine" as opposed to "we want to level faster". Yes, a while back I took several hours and actually searched the forums chronologically to make a comparison. It was more fun than actually playing the game had become.

I also play quite some times, from before fcc, hypers etc (started roughly 1 month after sanctuary came up, on another toon) But honestly, I don't see how things changed. I'll show you your 3 paragraphs from 2 years ago :

- FB "YES I'll helpzzzz!!!!!" ofc, not cause they were all that kind, but it was cause that was the easier way to lvl. On bosses, it wasn't easier to find help then now. Then most were busy, just like now.

- All was about TT runs. Cause TT = $$$$. And zhen for exp ofc.

- Soooooo, ppl didn't complain? "ugh, wq is soooooooo long" "cs is soooooooooo expensive", and yet they did it... to lvl! There has always been a waiting line at striped tiger king....

Imo, things didn't change that much. Same type of ppl playing. Some play and help a lot, others just want to lvl as fast as possible. Just like the old days.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

We all saw a cancer growing when packs were introduced,we all saw that cancer metathesize with hyper stones, nobody saw hyperstones and said "hey thats a great idea!"

Anyone who stayed after their introduction is guilty of continuing a relationship with a game that has a terminal affliction, myself included.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

We all saw a cancer growing when packs were introduced,we all saw that cancer metathesize with hyper stones, nobody saw hyperstones and said "hey thats a great idea!"

Anyone who stayed after their introduction is guilty of continuing a relationship with a game that has a terminal affliction, myself included.

lmao Great post, I agree. b:chuckle

It's like an awful trainwreck... You just can't look away, but you know it's gonna end badly.

ItsAWolf - Archosaur

Other people FCing their way from 1-100 does affect the people that don't. More people leveling that way, means less people available for parties that level the 'normal' way. Normal being bh these days. That being said, I personally don't care how others level. I prefer duoing bhs / contracts with my wife and inviting guild mates along if they so desire.

What does annoy me is the constant nagging about going FC starting at around lvl 70ish. Then if nobody responds favourably within 5 minutes some sulking and /logout. This behaviour starts with the introduction of bhs, and generally gets worse with FC. Nowadays grinding / questing isn't worth it anymore apparently, so everybody insists on needing help/[cleric and/or tank] for anything they do.

At least in the old days people only had one fb every 10 levels that needed doing >.>
Then again, most people skip levels 60-90 so that saves on a bunch of TT whinging b:chuckle

Summing up, I suppose my real issues are with people in this game always wanting help, not the mechanics b:shutup

So lvl up any old way you want and leave me the hell alone b:laugh

Solara_craft - Heavens Tear

People are ALL going to level different ways.
Instead of all this QQ, Why don't they just change FF BACK to the way it WAS BEFORE.

Harder, Longer, and sometimes even rough... just like a good sacking.

ijs.

And also, the OLD SCHOOL FF is totally do able now, I just wish they would do something about it. We give everyone their gear via packs and gold, why do we have to give people their levels too?

No point in playing a game if everything is practically instant and fast. There's no fun in that, no struggle and exploration besides the following:
1) poor into a new area (nub town)
2) Have some poor SoB fly you to Snowy Village
3) See someone in W.C. wanting to run FF's so you PM... "Can I join?" you get in... after scrapping your crappy TT80 gear so you can pwr level a toon because you never really played the game in the first place.
4) Pay you way by level 2. End up level 50. Rinse, Repeat... until 80-85... then go "wait... whats this gold quest?"

imho, there should be a account age cap for hypers - but that WONT HAPPEN.
PWI-DEV'S want all the coin they can get from nubbies trying to "catch up".

/End Rant

P.S. way to counter it... Power level friends only that you KNOW know wtf they are doing.

Miugre - Heavens Tear

Voted in favor of level requirement. Lol @ people trying to rationalize this kind of massive impatience.

I have a lot of complicated opinions on a lot of subjects, but to me this one is very simple:
1. If you are a newbie, you need to learn the game. Don't powerlevel.
2. People who profit off of newbies trying to powerlevel because nobody told them that level doesn't matter in this game anymore = lowest of the low.
3. If you have a main, you shouldn't powerlevel your alt either. Getting a sin to 100 in two weeks so you can buy your way to 5aps and gank people is not legitimate gameplay. If the actual game is honestly that boring to you, then you need to quit.

@Sasha... I would describe it as an affliction that will be terminal unless they do something about it, but yeah. I'm aware that 99% of the forums are irrepairably cynical and don't believe that could ever happen, though. XD

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Old school FC is pointless now, the gears aren't even that good and lunar is very accessible now so why would people farm FC just for stuff that they're gonna replace.