How to beat a sin

doomsord
doomsord Posts: 1 Arc User
edited March 2011 in Wizard
Hi is there a way to beat a sin in Duel/PK or not? Can anyone with experience give us some advice or tell us what should we do. Do we need rank 9 to beat them or not? What are the wizards in pvp do?
Thanks.b:thanks
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  • Cheze - Lost City
    Cheze - Lost City Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    yes there is a way.

    1. find a bad sin
    2. duel/pk sin
    3. win
    4. ???
    5. profit
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    doomsord wrote: »
    Hi is there a way to beat a sin in Duel/PK or not? Can anyone with experience give us some advice or tell us what should we do. Do we need rank 9 to beat them or not? What are the wizards in pvp do?
    Thanks.b:thanks

    there is no strategy that will work against a sin as a mage. Get used to hitting the go to town button or calling a friendly sin to kill that sin lol.
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  • HealingBliss - Lost City
    HealingBliss - Lost City Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If i'm not 1 or 5 shot out of stealth(aps x.x ) I usually badge out of the stun and sleep ulti them but some sins will sleep you if you fortify. So um, make a higher level sin thats how you beat them,its not i'll log my main anymore its i'll log my sin b:kiss
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    call 40 barb freinds have them spam the 1 second stun over a mass area findign the sin, then gank it

    start makeing slaves
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited March 2011
    wait a couple months until their stealth consumes chi instead of mana, their "chance to avoid all damage" becomes 5%, and their +chi skill to get a 300 second cooldown

    until then, get equal refines/don't be a duck
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    1. Physical Defense Charm and decent HP/def before attack
    2. Absolute Domain
    3. Ironguard Powder
    4. Sutra
    5. Town Portal
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    1. Physical Defense Charm and decent HP/def before attack
    2. Absolute Domain
    3. Ironguard Powder
    4. Sutra
    5. Town Portal

    In that order.

    And don't forget to sht talk all the while being immune.
  • thedominoeffect
    thedominoeffect Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Reroll Psy, defense voodoo, soul burn & phys immune & laugh
  • MarcA - Harshlands
    MarcA - Harshlands Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    This is exactly what to do as a wizard against a sin in pvp... Guaranteed results :)
    ***DISCLAIMER*** For maximum results sins should be well geared (3.33 aps+) and have anything over a +8 wepaon.

    1. *Waiting outside sz* (maybe finger over expel or AD?)
    2. Sin pops out of stealth (le damage x3.33 or 4)
    3. Wait for charm to tick... in that half a second make sure not to blink (this is crucial)
    4. AD or Expel
    5. If you AD'd continue to step 7 if you expelled continue to laugh and giggle for the next 9 seconds while "RESIST" rolls over and over(x3.33+) above your head.
    6. *Expel wears off*

    This is the part where **** gets real...

    7. Spam FoW and pray, to whatever god you believe in, that it gets past their tidal protection/ focused mind...
    8.*AD wears off*
    9.FoW wears off.. if your god(s) answered your prayers
    9. Scream like little girl
    10. Press "Ressurect in Town" Button
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  • DaichiOni - Dreamweaver
    DaichiOni - Dreamweaver Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    magefizban - Lost City wrote: »
    in That Order.

    And Don't Forget To Sht Talk All The While Being Immune.
    ^prosauce^
    hexomega - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    1. Physical Defense Charm And Decent Hp/def Before Attack
    2. Absolute Domain
    3. Ironguard Powder
    4. Sutra
    5. Town Portal

    ^this^
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  • Arenaceous - Lost City
    Arenaceous - Lost City Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Pray the sin is too dumb to live, does not use tidal and only headhunts + auto attack. Badge free from stun, shrink away and kill the sin. If the sin has more than like 2 braincells this won't work, because the sin either tele stuns you (yea, you can fortify.. sometimes), or opens with seal/sleep, or uses shadow escape and comes back at you with your genie on cooldown, or has tidal and nerves on, which makes it almost impossible to kill the sin, because you need to get 3-4 hits in. Good luck with that lol. If the sin has no nerves on I usually try sleep + ult. The only reason why I am sometimes able to kill sins is because most just suck because they get no real challenges in pk and therefore do not have to think about wtf they are doing. So yea, your best bet is to get used to go back to town and get your revenge in TW.
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  • Sereneai - Dreamweaver
    Sereneai - Dreamweaver Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »
    or has tidal and nerves on.

    FWIW, this isn't possible. we can have tidal OR deaden nerves.

    Each only lasts for 60 seconds at lvl10/sage/daemon, and tehy share a 90sec cooldown, meaning its not possible to cast them both.
    Things said during a Twizted faction PK session:
    Slayer_of_Souls: you guys are such suck ups. none of you have attacked twid.
    Twiddzly(fac leader): no, sere killed me already.
    Slayer_of_Souls: he's out there waiting for us, isn't he. i'm gonna die.
    Sereneai: b:sin why don't you come find out.
    Kinglkaruga: you go first dule.
  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    when it comes to a duel with the rules

    no pots no genie

    then the only chance you got is
    starting with full chi and -25%chan
    and sin has to start duel not in stealth

    sleep skill
    mountain seize
    BIDS
  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Sereneai - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    FWIW, this isn't possible. we can have tidal OR deaden nerves.

    Each only lasts for 60 seconds at lvl10/sage/daemon, and tehy share a 90sec cooldown, meaning its not possible to cast them both.

    tidal [protection] and [deaden] nerves do not share a cooldown. however, tidal and focused mind do.
  • BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I've had success with just whisper, undine, fow, sutra, gush, sandstorm.

    Only in duels though, not on a PVP server. Of course, if the sin's quick on maze steps, that all flies out the window.
  • Arenaceous - Lost City
    Arenaceous - Lost City Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Sereneai - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    FWIW, this isn't possible. we can have tidal OR deaden nerves.

    Each only lasts for 60 seconds at lvl10/sage/daemon, and tehy share a 90sec cooldown, meaning its not possible to cast them both.

    uhm, no. :o Didn't look at yur skillbar for 80 levels?
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  • _Inferno - Sanctuary
    _Inferno - Sanctuary Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I haven't played my wizzy in a while, but i have 1 combo i always use against sins in duels. I never pk so idk about that.

    Just before the duel starts, hit sutra. Then us force of will. Sutra and fow will be faster than their tele stun, or whatever stun they usually use. I don't recommend using whisper since sins usually have that anti stun skill (forgot what it was called). Once you seal them with FoW, you'd still have sutra on. Use DPyro and BT (if at full chi) or Mountain's Seize (if you don't see the anti stun icon on them. These should be instant casts if sutra is still on. BT should finish them off unless they have that tidal protection thingy. If they don't have don't have that anti stun on, they should be stunned by seize. Use gush and stone rain, then sleep them with whisper and finish off with a nuke. If they're still alive then shrink away or use quick spells like WoP. My damage is really low (+4 tt99 gold wep anyone?) so I need a lot of spells to finish a sin lol.

    Again, idk about pk since i'm from a carebear server. You need to have decent ping if you're gonna seal them first. If they stun you, then depending on the 'rules' of the duel, you could expel yourself or just wait for their first stun to wear off then sleep/shrink away. If you're against a good sin, you're gonna be dead once the first stun hits you anyway.
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  • Sereneai - Dreamweaver
    Sereneai - Dreamweaver Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »
    uhm, no. :o Didn't look at yur skillbar for 80 levels?

    b:shocked right you are! my 0300 in the morning brain somehow read that as "tidal protection and focused mind" b:surrender sleepy sere fail!!!!!! b:laugh XD sorry bout that
    Things said during a Twizted faction PK session:
    Slayer_of_Souls: you guys are such suck ups. none of you have attacked twid.
    Twiddzly(fac leader): no, sere killed me already.
    Slayer_of_Souls: he's out there waiting for us, isn't he. i'm gonna die.
    Sereneai: b:sin why don't you come find out.
    Kinglkaruga: you go first dule.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    and sin has to start duel not in stealth

    b:shocked b:shocked b:shocked b:shocked
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  • BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    _Inferno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I don't recommend using whisper since sins usually have that anti stun skill (forgot what it was called). Once you seal them with FoW, you'd still have sutra on.

    FOW is negated by Maze Steps (the anti stun/speed up skill) same as whisper.
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    FOW is negated by Maze Steps (the anti stun/speed up skill) same as whisper.

    no its not lol. The sprint has an anti movement immune (so stun/sleep/immobilize don't work) but FoW doesn't affect movement so it will work. Unfortunately, tidal on the other hand, has a chance to resist anything and everything.
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  • HealingBliss - Lost City
    HealingBliss - Lost City Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I've never had a sin bother using that on my wizzy tbh o.o
    Shhh don't troll, it's yulk bait.
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    HealingBliss - Lost City wrote: »
    I've never had a sin bother using that on my wizzy tbh o.o

    use it on my all the time tbh, when I was running around debuffing people at west.. I had a quite a few sins force stealth on my 4x veno too.. made me lol on the inside a little.
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    MarcA - Harshlands wrote: »
    This is exactly what to do as a wizard against a sin in pvp... Guaranteed results :)
    ***DISCLAIMER*** For maximum results sins should be well geared (3.33 aps+) and have anything over a +8 wepaon.

    1. *Waiting outside sz* (maybe finger over expel or AD?)
    2. Sin pops out of stealth (le damage x3.33 or 4)
    3. Wait for charm to tick... in that half a second make sure not to blink (this is crucial)
    4. AD or Expel
    5. If you AD'd continue to step 7 if you expelled continue to laugh and giggle for the next 9 seconds while "RESIST" rolls over and over(x3.33+) above your head.
    6. *Expel wears off*

    This is the part where **** gets real...

    7. Spam FoW and pray, to whatever god you believe in, that it gets past their tidal protection/ focused mind...
    8.*AD wears off*
    9.FoW wears off.. if your god(s) answered your prayers
    9. Scream like little girl
    10. Press "Ressurect in Town" Button


    tbh i prefer whisper over FoW, its a lot faster

    - ok you managed to 1. survive the first hit, 2. escape stun 3. have the fish sleeping

    what to do next?

    ... use sutra townportal :P

    OR (zooming powder) mountain seize if you feel like attacking back
    alternatively pop a anti stun powder if you have no chi
    undine and shrink away and cast your *** off
    (hope for stupidity !always works on dreamweaver)
    hope it doesnt just kill you with raw damage, taking 1-2 normal steps back and forth brings you outta their low range, no need to holy path between shrinks xd
    sins randomly stop attacking, make use of that bug xd

    some stuff just works out one time only per fish
    like using fortify-ironguard - pew pew pew, when they think they can dps-kill you now
    (again stupid fish is stupid)
    if they stealth:
    this time: REALLY use sutra town portal,
    come back with defense charm popped, Domain out of CD, Apoth out of CD - and use a different strategy




    i know, not everyone has access to the high end TW apothecary
    you have to use everything,
    they dont even need a genie :P
    guess thats why adroit said you cant beat a good sin - i dont know, there are no good sins on dreamweaver, and im not really a pker anyways -







    PS: for Duels - make sure youre in a squad with that fish youre dueling ;D
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