Use of mirage's for buff's yes or no

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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    These aren't your daddy's squad buffs. These are rune buffs. Compare the cost of these to any other rune buff in the game and you'll see they are the cheapest there is.
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    These aren't your daddy's squad buffs. These are rune buffs. Compare the cost of these to any other rune buff in the game and you'll see they are the cheapest there is.

    i charge for mine because i dont need the buff from the squad i use the self buff for my own buff so if people want mine they pay me a mirage or dont get it. the fact is though it costs a mirage and it shouldnt. sure they go on your weapon but its a squad buff none the less. hell i say remove the mirage cost and make it go on the player instead.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ok how about making cleric buffs cost a mirage would you be ok with that? or bell? or every squad buff or buff that can be cast on another player that should take a mirage too. if you do it to one class you should do it to every class.

    Fo show.

    WTT Frostblade buff for mirages
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ok how about making cleric buffs cost a mirage would you be ok with that? or bell? or every squad buff or buff that can be cast on another player that should take a mirage too. if you do it to one class you should do it to every class.
    one of the dumbest QQs:
    "Why cant i have it if they have it"
    "Why dont they have it if i have to have it"


    on a sidenote im playing seeker and sucking it up. I did my homework and found a steady way to make income in pwi without the need to cash shop to fund my self chosen seeker class. (and no i dont do BH) So yeah its not like i dont understand the pain (and the mp usage) of this seeker class. Only thing diff. is im using my time more efficiently, instead of complaining im moving my **** and getting stuff done or thinking of new ideas to profit.
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Sure, sounds fine to me, hell just make it all squad buffs cost a mirage.

    A lot of clerics will ragequit if that happens... >_>
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    This thread is mostly:


    Lower levels: OMG A MIRAGE TO USE THE BUFF! NOT FAIR!

    High levels: It's just a mirage......
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    This thread is mostly:


    People that are poor, who have a hard time getting money: OMG A MIRAGE TO USE THE BUFF! NOT FAIR!

    People with a TON of money or CashShop alot: It's just a mirage......

    Fixed.. Its more like that, and its true. Its not like people always have 10k to spend for a 30 min buff.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »
    Fixed.. Its more like that, and its true. Its not like people always have 10k to spend for a 30 min buff.
    u forgot to add that some pple who dont haven money dont really try also. (ex. game beggars)
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    u forgot to add that some pple who dont haven money dont really try also. (ex. game beggars)

    im no beggar i worked for all my money yet i dont have the money to throw out a buff on my seeker while still trying to refine his gear and also shard it.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »
    Fixed.. Its more like that, and its true. Its not like people always have 10k to spend for a 30 min buff.
    10k is not "a ton of money" and at high levels mirages practically fall into your inventory. Sometimes I'll check my inventory and notice that I somehow have an extra 100 or so mirages with no idea how I got them.
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    im no beggar i worked for all my money yet i dont have the money to throw out a buff on my seeker while still trying to refine his gear and also shard it.

    She met for the people who just QQ about they mirage cost and are to lazy to make money.

    I also have this problem, I'm not like those super good merchants or cashshopers who make money in 5 sec's, so when I get my seeker up I don't want to deal with paying extra money for a 30 min buff. I just think it will be fair for those buffs to cost just MP like every other class.
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    10k is not "a ton of money" and at high levels mirages practically fall into your inventory. Sometimes I'll check my inventory and notice that I somehow have an extra 100 or so mirages with no idea how I got them.

    Sorry if I double post. b:surrender


    That's because you are at 101 so you can make money very easy and if you are married, you got that quest that gives you mirages and I would think there are some other endgame dailies that give you free mirages, while others who cant make money so easily (like me at some points) or merchant well, so ijs it will be fair if it just cost MP like every other class. I'm not QQing ijs it will be better off that way.
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  • Asura_Shiva - Raging Tide
    Asura_Shiva - Raging Tide Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    More buffs = more money

    looks at herc

    Stronger for beginners = 200 USD

    I don't see where it is going different (j/k mainly)

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    Anyways I think Saber Rattle is **** but it is worth it if you have a extra mirage. The 2nd AoE rune buff is nice. Gives Barbs more def as with everyone else.

    + Gives Rune Buff - takes away Rune Buff that may be better

    Up to you if you kill your team due to giving a lower level buff. =D
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    im no beggar i worked for all my money yet i dont have the money to throw out a buff on my seeker while still trying to refine his gear and also shard it.
    i meant those pple that beg in faction/public for gears and ****
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I sometimes make an item that will RESIST refining. I have a Unicorn that took somewhere north of 140 mirages to get to +3. That was after I wasted 60 or so trying to even get it to +2. I used Tienkeng stones on it, wasted a very large number of them on it in fact. I attempted to refine it myself, using the Tienkeng stones, and it only ever got to +1 maybe twice out of around 30 tries. I gave up and had a friend who is better at refining take a shot at it, and she used 100 of my mirages, and around 40 of her own, and only got it to +3. She did get my Wind and Clouds to +4 using one Tisha stone and 10 mirages, IIRC.

    And thus, I have 10 Mirages right now.

    So, my Seeker, if I even level her, will get the special buffs. However, if a squad wants the buffs, I'm going to ask for partial compensation for them, unless I have a stock of Mirages again.

    I'd also be willing to be a Buff Bunny for people for mirages. I need them... Since I'm not spending any more money on PWI until things get fixed, IE, Rubberbanding, I can't afford DOrbs. :( However... I jumped on an NPC's head on accident in the expansion area, and to my complete and utter SHOCK, I did NOT rubberband. There is a glimmer of hope! I've also noticed a huge improvement rubberbanding occurrences, it seems to be decreasing in frequency, at least for me, so I may be able to start buying DObs again. :D And kites. b:pleased
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    All i gotta to say is... thank god i don't run with poor people.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Honestly noone is forcing you to use that buff all the time. Noone forces you to use attack charms, charm, or the best ammo as well. Keep in mind other classes have their costs. Mystics have high MP usage, archers have a class-exclusive cost of having to buy ammo.

    Again when you realize these are the cheapest rune buffs in the game and that seekers get exclusive access to them they compare favorably.
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  • arkangel001
    arkangel001 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    i cant only see Rawrgh and Deceptistar talking a LOT about the mirage cost for the buff

    this is easy, u already gave us ur opinion about

    u r not more important than anyone

    u just dont have to question all reviews

    respect the opinions of all so as we respect those of you
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    u r not more important than anyone


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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    By the time the buffs that cost mirages start to be a factor, you'll be at a point where you'll earn more in an hour of leisurely grinding than the cost of the two mirages. By far, too.

    Even more so if you're running around with a Jones' Blessing, which would decrease the effectiveness of the 3 attack level buff. Or if you happen to be sharded with DoDs or JSoDs.
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  • arkangel001
    arkangel001 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Yes I am.

    so mature... keep going
  • scarfaceclaw
    scarfaceclaw Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Ive got a seeker, never learned that buff, never going to until they do away with the rediculous mirage cost/

    No other class has to use a mirage to buff.

    For the record i have yet to even see a seeker use it, that buff might as well not even exist.
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  • Astraea - Raging Tide
    Astraea - Raging Tide Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Apparently ppl dont even remember the tideborn comming of age quest chain that gives several mirages at 4x (which is when u even start getting bhs where it'd MIGHT be of any use)

    frankly, if u get those u can kinda slowly merchant them off selling for like 14k ish(RT's sell price for mirages) and buy for like 13k ish (from, you know the hundreds of lv100s who've just finished BH and got 50 mirages in their invent they wanna sell for some profit cause they didnt get the ecstasy cards they wanted)

    srsly, instead of whining about a buff you wouldnt even Need till higher lvs past when u learn it, u might wanna think of ways to get some <_<
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  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You're missing the point some of you..... why the hell should we even have to PAY to use a buff? No one else does.....
  • Astraea - Raging Tide
    Astraea - Raging Tide Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Chadric - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You're missing the point some of you..... why the hell should we even have to PAY to use a buff? No one else does.....

    No i get it, but what i wanna ask is WHY are u guys complaining about a buff that u dont even Need at all?,(unless u actually thought youd need it for tanking with the 513546513 aps sins/bms and keep agro)

    if it was w/o cost cept maybe cost a spark itd make the couple anniversary blessings i still got more useful but not rly needed

    actually if it cost a spark to use id just ask to be buffed then pass a spark back
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Chadric - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You're missing the point some of you..... why the hell should we even have to PAY to use a buff? No one else does.....

    I pay to use rune buffs and thats exactly what these are.. only the seeker ones are much cheaper.
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Astraea - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No i get it, but what i wanna ask is WHY are u guys complaining about a buff that u dont even Need at all?,(unless u actually thought youd need it for tanking with the 513546513 aps sins/bms and keep agro)

    if it was w/o cost cept maybe cost a spark itd make the couple anniversary blessings i still got more useful but not rly needed

    actually if it cost a spark to use id just ask to be buffed then pass a spark back

    why are you complaining about us complaining the fact is your buffs dont cost a mirage so you dont care. our buff costs us a mirage and lasts 30 minutes.
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  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    LOL if i remember right (i'm not gonna go fly to a npc in game right now to look), the max lvl rune buffs cost what, 4 Average shards??? 200k for a buff? ROFL anyone uses that they're freakign stupid..... or stupid rich and doesnt' care. Using up a mirage for a buff doesnt' even come close to that...... Point is some of DO care about even spending 10k-15... 17k for a buff. NO OTHER CLASS has to. It's just stupid. end of story...... shoulda just made these buffs cost 1 or even two sparks.....
  • Astraea - Raging Tide
    Astraea - Raging Tide Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    why are you complaining about us complaining the fact is your buffs dont cost a mirage so you dont care. our buff costs us a mirage and lasts 30 minutes.

    lol that wasnt complaining that was asking a question, could care less if u dont like it or not

    and the "if i cant have it, you cant have it" kind of attitude rly doesnt help
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  • Neyda - Raging Tide
    Neyda - Raging Tide Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    and the only Class who will never have them is the Seeker himself b:chuckle
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