Seeker QQ thread.

Bulldowzah - Dreamweaver
Bulldowzah - Dreamweaver Posts: 96 Arc User
edited March 2011 in General Discussion
WHY! OH WHY! DO THEY NEED EFFIN MIRAGES TO CAST 2 AOE BUFFS! QQ
Thats just bs, why would i wanna have a 30 min buff for 10k?
i really hope this gets patched. :/
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I guess it happen in the name of coin sink . . b:surrender
    Considering the cost made with China version on mind . . which has wonderful economy . .
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Because mirages are SOOOOOO uncommon right?
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  • KingTank - Heavens Tear
    KingTank - Heavens Tear Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    pretty **** buffs too as they don;t upgrade in lvl
  • Leolin - Dreamweaver
    Leolin - Dreamweaver Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    as a level 86...I almost never get a single mirage I don't buy from shops. Luckily prices dropped from like 17k to 11k recently, but they might go back up at any moment O.O
    and come on, you know spending something that npcs for straight up 10k, simply for a pretty pitiful looking buff to be honest, is just straight up messed up.
  • Sukinee - Heavens Tear
    Sukinee - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'm sorry but it really isn't fair. How come all those other classes in the game have skills that don't require mirages or any other kind of money source? If "coin sink" is supposedly the excuse for this, I find that very hard to believe it's true.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You must never run TT, do quests, do FC (pretty sure that gives mirages, I may be wrong), or do cube.


    And really, come on, 10k is not that much and if it's such an issue then don't use it.


    Tell you what, if you're on the raging tide server I'll give you an easy source of mirages.

    I solo TT a lot and I will pay you 2 mirages to give me the +5 DEF lvl buff before I start TT, if you come into the TT (i.e I'm halway through and it wears off) and buff me with it, I'll give you 3 mirages.
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  • Leolin - Dreamweaver
    Leolin - Dreamweaver Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    TT generally only gives enough mirage to cover subs, and as a bm my cut is usually not worth going on the runs. correct I do not quest, 2x experience is killing me i've gained like 20% of my level since it started -.- not making enough coin per experience. Not sure if FC gives mirages, I know it has a decent rate of 100 perfect stones...but yeah I dont fc rofl.
    Cube is umm...cube doesnt really give mirage. It takes tons of coins from you, the end pack has a mirage, you can easily pay 200k for 3 mirages (hark) but i mean it isnt like every room adds a mirage you know?

    edit:
    should be noted I dont even have a seeker high enough to have these buffs, it's just odd seeker has literally the most expensive (by a lot) per use skill. i mean really, buff like 70 squads and thats worth a lvl10 skill itself, used in just buffing. Makes me wanna cry :P
  • Tsubakey - Heavens Tear
    Tsubakey - Heavens Tear Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You must never run TT, do quests, do FC (pretty sure that gives mirages, I may be wrong), or do cube.


    And really, come on, 10k is not that much and if it's such an issue then don't use it.


    Tell you what, if you're on the raging tide server I'll give you an easy source of mirages.

    I solo TT a lot and I will pay you 2 mirages to give me the +5 DEF lvl buff before I start TT, if you come into the TT (i.e I'm halway through and it wears off) and buff me with it, I'll give you 3 mirages.


    the point is, the buff itself is crappy. even tho mirages are common as ****, its not worth it. at all. in the slightest.
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You must never run TT, do quests, do FC (pretty sure that gives mirages, I may be wrong), or do cube.


    And really, come on, 10k is not that much and if it's such an issue then don't use it.


    Tell you what, if you're on the raging tide server I'll give you an easy source of mirages.

    I solo TT a lot and I will pay you 2 mirages to give me the +5 DEF lvl buff before I start TT, if you come into the TT (i.e I'm halway through and it wears off) and buff me with it, I'll give you 3 mirages.

    Cost aside, the fact that the new classes buffs require an outside item in order to even cast is beyond ****.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Those the buff worth 10k ? b:chuckle
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  • KingTank - Heavens Tear
    KingTank - Heavens Tear Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    oh not to mention the Buff is broken and only gives u 1 attack lvl and def lvl when you use it
  • Echolight - Dreamweaver
    Echolight - Dreamweaver Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    mirages for buffs? shoot me D:
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    the point is, the buff itself is crappy. even tho mirages are common as ****, its not worth it. at all. in the slightest.
    I'm willing to use one mirage every run for an extra +5 DEF level in TT.
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I do wonder what kind of QQ we'd be seeing if the devs had added the mirage requirements to all classes buffs.

    Demon barbs would probably be at the top of the list, and venos. A demon barb (who switched to fist/claws) typically spams Strength of Titans every 60 seconds for the crit % increase (or however long it lasts).

    If one were to spend 20-30 runs in a row in TT for example, they could potentially end up paying out more in mirage costs rebuffing themselves for each boss than they'd get in mats.

    Let's not forget the 10 minutes Bramble lasts. Veno's wouldn't buff anyone if they had to pay 10k each time.

    I'm just glad the devs left all the fail ideas to the newest classes.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I do wonder what kind of QQ we'd be seeing if the devs had added the mirage requirements to all classes buffs.

    Demon barbs would probably be at the top of the list, and venos. A demon barb (who switched to fist/claws) typically spams Strength of Titans every 60 seconds for the crit % increase (or however long it lasts).

    If one were to spend 20-30 runs in a row in TT for example, they could potentially end up paying out more in mirage costs rebuffing themselves for each boss than they'd get in mats.

    Let's not forget the 10 minutes Bramble lasts. Veno's wouldn't buff anyone if they had to pay 10k each time.

    I'm just glad the devs left all the fail ideas to the newest classes.

    Don't forget archers. We set our left hand on fire every 10 minutes.

    PWI is pretty fail for buffs, actually. I mean, WTF, a 10 minute buff? That's just stupid. ALL buffs should either be 30 minues, 1 hour, or 2 hours, barring things like Bramble Hood (which, IMO, needs to be longer anyway). Maaaaaybe 10 minutes for something like marrow, but that is different than a true 'buff', and in reality, you're gonna either be wanting it gone or switching it out for it's opposite buff shortly anyway.

    edit 2: Actually, unless it's really necessary... I don't bother with short-duration buffs anymore. That includes Bramble and blazing arrow. What's the damn point if it's gonna wear off in 10 minutes, and I'm going to forget to relight it anyway?
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Demon barbs would probably be at the top of the list, and venos. A demon barb (who switched to fist/claws) typically spams Strength of Titans every 60 seconds for the crit % increase (or however long it lasts).

    We do? This is new to me.
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    We do? This is new to me.

    Every demon fist barb I've squaded with (and even some pure axe) tend to constantly spam Titans for the crit increase.
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  • KingTank - Heavens Tear
    KingTank - Heavens Tear Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'm willing to use one mirage every run for an extra +5 DEF level in TT.


    Its only 1 Defence lvl not 5 its either worded wrong or bugged, there is another skill that say something but doesnt give you it, for example Bladed Fervor which gives you 1% crit, attack lvl +3 and defence lvl 1, it gives the Crit but it doesnt give the attack and defence lvl.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Its only 1 Defence lvl not 5 its either worded wrong or bugged, there is a some other skills that say something but doesnt give you it, for example Bladed Fervor which gives you 1% crit, attack lvl +3 and defence lvl 1, it gives the Crit but it doesnt give the attack and defence lvl.

    From info i get from seeker forum it was wrong description on blade fervor.
    Lv 1 = 1 % crit 15 minute
    Lv 2 = 1 % crit 30 minute
    Lv 3 = 1 % crit atk lv 1 15 minute
    Lv 4 = 1 % crit atk lv 1 30 minute

    goes on until
    Lv 10 = 1 % crit atk lv 3 def lv 1 30 minute
    funny ? i say yes . . and didn't really worth it . .

    Seem the same for Krav Maga . .
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  • KingTank - Heavens Tear
    KingTank - Heavens Tear Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    From info i get from seeker forum it was wrong description on blade fervor.
    Lv 1 = 1 % crit 15 minute
    Lv 2 = 1 % crit 30 minute
    Lv 3 = 1 % crit atk lv 1 15 minute
    Lv 4 = 1 % crit atk lv 1 30 minute

    goes on until
    Lv 10 = 1 % crit atk lv 3 def lv 1 30 minute
    funny ? i say yes . . and didn't really worth it . .

    Seem the same for Krav Maga . .


    i see, well not very good i'd rather lvl other skills so that one is gonna be one of the last ones to lvl lol. I think they really rushed this there are alot of mistakes in the Seekers skills, not sure about the Mystic yet i haven't really played it
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Every demon fist barb I've squaded with (and even some pure axe) tend to constantly spam Titans for the crit increase.
    I've never done that. I'd rather just cancel demon beastial onslaught everytime I spark for the 35% crit buff.
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  • ZoanoAce - Lost City
    ZoanoAce - Lost City Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    p.p noo, I want free buffs










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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Seem the same for Krav Maga . .

    Wait, there's a skill called Krav Maga?
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wait, there's a skill called Krav Maga?

    yes 0.o
    Krav Maga Level 1
    Range Melee
    Mana 325
    Channel 1.2 seconds
    Cast 3.0 seconds
    Cooldown 15.0 seconds
    Weapon Blade or Sword
    Requisite Cultivation Transcendent
    Improves the defensive capability of you and your party, within 15 meters.
    Increases character's Defense Level by 5,
    lasts for 30 minutes.
    Costs 1 Mirage Celestone.
    The Active Blessings: Bladed Fervor, Saber Rattle, and Krav Maga, can only be used one at a time.
    This skill does not stack with Rune buffs.
    It got typo, expensive, and basically one of the main discussion on these thread. 0.o Since 1st post.
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    So...seekers are IDF. <.<
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  • Baoxian - Raging Tide
    Baoxian - Raging Tide Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    From info i get from seeker forum it was wrong description on blade fervor.
    Lv 1 = 1 % crit 15 minute
    Lv 2 = 1 % crit 30 minute
    Lv 3 = 1 % crit atk lv 1 15 minute
    Lv 4 = 1 % crit atk lv 1 30 minute

    goes on until
    Lv 10 = 1 % crit atk lv 3 def lv 1 30 minute
    funny ? i say yes . . and didn't really worth it . .

    Seem the same for Krav Maga . .


    But Blade Fervor doesn'cost any Mirage , but I have it just on lvl 2 now
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I know that. b:bye
    I just explaining the misleading description and compared to psychic cheap black voodo + 22 atk lv and -11 def lv. Seeker skills work like (as) coin sink and some of it has cost that didn't match with the effect.

    Blade Fervor is funny. Because in order to fill Lv 1 to 10 they choose to fill Lv 1 has 15 minute duration, Lv 2 has 30, but on Lv 3 after gaining bonus +1 Atk lv the duration goes back to 15 minute.

    Rather just put it to :
    Lv 1 : 1% crit 15 minute
    Lv 2 : 1% crit 1 atk lv 15 minute
    Lv 3 : 1% crit 1 atk lv 1 def lv 15 minute
    Lv 4 : 1% crit 2 atk lv 1 def lv 15 minute
    Lv 5 : 1% crit 2 atk lv 2 def lv 15 minute
    Lv 6 : 2% crit 3 atk lv 2 def lv 30 minute
    and
    Lv 10 : 2% crit 5 atk lv 4 def lv 30 minute
    But maybe that was too generous . . b:bye
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  • Qingzi - Harshlands
    Qingzi - Harshlands Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The thing I wanna QQ about is not having an interrupt. The only melee class without one.
  • ZoanoAce - Lost City
    ZoanoAce - Lost City Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The thing I wanna QQ about is not having an interrupt. The only melee class without one.
    Just pray the 79 and 100 skills make up for it (self-heal, anti stun)

    Edit: Quid Pro Quo can be considered their cancelling skill as it silences the target for 1 sec :)
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  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    pretty **** buffs too as they don;t upgrade in lvl

    They upgrade, just the descriptions don't.

    1/2/3 atk lvl

    1/3/5 def lvl
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