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  • PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear
    PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Finrah - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And like someone mentioned above; if people are offering 700k then why not sell them at 700k? They obviously have the money to buy it. If you don't want it to go up.. stay constant at your buy price at a low cost.

    That would work, but if you look at the offers buyers are making, they are lower than the prices sellers are putting the gold up there for. The seller are the ones inflating the prices. Those who are despearate enough simply come up to the sellers price and pay it. So the prices just continue to 'inch' up.

    I'm not desperate.
    There's no such thing as a "Perfect World" full of Jade, diamonds, gold, and other riches and treasures. There is only an imperfect world, with an imperfect society, full of imperfect people, with imperfect idea's about how to be perfectly rich and perfectly perfect. No one cares about being perfectly kind, perfectly fair, or perfectly content.
    It's a perfectly sad world.
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Yes those damn sellers. How dare they sell gold for 700k each when people are offering 700k? They should mail back the coins to the buyers and stop being greedy.

    those buyers are greedy merchants, the beasts with seven horns and eight tails that ruin the economy.

    the real, honest, angelic player-buyers are the ones that buy gold for 10,10,100k (do you have those kind of bids on ur server? u see them only when there is a large supply of gold or something)

    @OP: how much gold could you make in 1h back then?
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  • PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear
    PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    do you kick over the board when you're losing a game of checkers?

    You're assuming I am angry... unfounded assumption. If I told you here what I am really thinking about you and those like you, you wouldn't like it and thus, you'd make more unfounded assumptions and proposterous accusations toward me. Isn't that the way you play? If someone says something you don't like, you have to kick them and spit in their face... then make them look like 'the bad guy'?
    Unfortunately, for you, I am slow to anger and it's even harder to hurt me. So you go right ahead and continue to assume and accuse... it does not make you right just because I won't continue to argue with you.

    b:bye
    There's no such thing as a "Perfect World" full of Jade, diamonds, gold, and other riches and treasures. There is only an imperfect world, with an imperfect society, full of imperfect people, with imperfect idea's about how to be perfectly rich and perfectly perfect. No one cares about being perfectly kind, perfectly fair, or perfectly content.
    It's a perfectly sad world.
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    That would work, but if you look at the offers buyers are making, they are lower than the prices sellers are putting the gold up there for. The seller are the ones inflating the prices. Those who are despearate enough simply come up to the sellers price and pay it. So the prices just continue to 'inch' up.

    I'm not desperate.
    PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    That would work, but if you look at the offers sellers are making, they are higher than the prices buyers are putting the gold up there for. The buyers are the ones deflating the prices. Those who are despearate enough simply come up to the buyers price and pay it. So the prices just continue to 'inch' down.

    I'm not desperate.

    it's pretty obvious that you are just trying to use logical fallacies to justify and support your views/shove your ethics to us. i'm pretty sure that you dont even realise it and that's one sad thing about people today, mostly because it's not just you doing it.

    you dont even try to understand/study the economy, you start from your belief "gold sellers are greedy" and desperately move from argument to argument, mixing emotion, personal attacks, fallacies to try and support it.

    have you even questioned your view? no. and that's a sign of your blind devotion to it.

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  • PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear
    PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

    @OP: how much gold could you make in 1h back then?

    The average coin yield per hour from drops (all drops) was ~50-80k. On occasion, I'd get a good run on dq items and I'd push 100k in an hour. The gimpimg of the price of dq items hurt a lot of people who farm for their coin and don't buy zen. I'm a veno, so I actually have it a little easier than some of the other classes who do the same thing I do to get by in this game. Since I have been gone for almost a year, it's probably going to take me a few days to get back into the swing. But this time around, I do not plan to play pwi as much as I did before. I'm really, as I said earlier in the thread, just curious as to what the new expansion will have to offer. I had actually uninstalled pwi when I quit last year. I spent over 3 hours last night reinstalling and updating it.
    There's no such thing as a "Perfect World" full of Jade, diamonds, gold, and other riches and treasures. There is only an imperfect world, with an imperfect society, full of imperfect people, with imperfect idea's about how to be perfectly rich and perfectly perfect. No one cares about being perfectly kind, perfectly fair, or perfectly content.
    It's a perfectly sad world.
  • PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear
    PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    it's pretty obvious that you are just trying to use logical fallacies to justify and support your views/shove your ethics to us. i'm pretty sure that you dont even realise it and that's one sad thing about people today, mostly because it's not just you doing it.

    you dont even try to understand/study the economy, you start from your belief "gold sellers are greedy" and desperately move from argument to argument, mixing emotion, personal attacks, fallacies to try and support it.

    have you even questioned your view? no. and that's a sign of your blind devotion to it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfq5kju627c

    I'm not trying to shove any ethics, my own or otherwise, on anyone. Your ethics, or lack thereof, are your own. I have nothing to do with them. For you to twist my words and make such an accusation makes it appear, however, that you may, in fact, have an issue with your own ethics (or lack thereof). You should choose your words more wisely when accusing someone of something they are not doing and have not done.

    Who, may I ask, have I attacked? O.o Personally or otherwise?
    There's no such thing as a "Perfect World" full of Jade, diamonds, gold, and other riches and treasures. There is only an imperfect world, with an imperfect society, full of imperfect people, with imperfect idea's about how to be perfectly rich and perfectly perfect. No one cares about being perfectly kind, perfectly fair, or perfectly content.
    It's a perfectly sad world.
  • Finrah - Sanctuary
    Finrah - Sanctuary Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    That would work, but if you look at the offers buyers are making, they are lower than the prices sellers are putting the gold up there for. The seller are the ones inflating the prices. Those who are despearate enough simply come up to the sellers price and pay it. So the prices just continue to 'inch' up.

    I'm not desperate.

    Really?? o.O our buy prices always below our sell prices in Sanctuary... b:shocked gawd that's screwed xD
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    That would work, but if you look at the offers buyers are making, they are lower than the prices sellers are putting the gold up there for. The seller are the ones inflating the prices. Those who are despearate enough simply come up to the sellers price and pay it. So the prices just continue to 'inch' up.

    I'm not desperate.

    Have you ever actually observed the Gold Trade?

    If you put a bid higher than the lowest sell price, you get your Gold instantly. Also, if you put your offer up for lower than the current highest bid, it's sold instantly.

    So you never get to see any of the people who are buying high gold in anything except the lowest buy going up in a flash. On the other hand, you never get to see the lowest sells, since those are sold out immediately.

    And since the mechanics are like that, it means that it's literally impossible for any group of people to lower the price of gold in any way. Well, what you could do is buy all the gold that is being sold and sell enough gold to clear all of the buys and replace those with lower amounts. However, even that would result in people just buying all of the cheap gold and putting it up for higher.

    So effectively, it's impossible for anyone except PWE to fix the gold economy. And for them, it's better if it stays at a point where the gold is high enough to motivate buying zen but low enough for it to be worth it for the few people buying the gold with coins. And that's what's really going on with the gold.
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  • Ninja_Dagger - Dreamweaver
    Ninja_Dagger - Dreamweaver Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    u shuda been there when gold went up to 1.5M a piece... good times good times
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    put them in a sack and beat your wife
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Ninja_Dagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    u shuda been there when gold went up to 1.5M a piece... good times good times

    musta been all those greedy gold sellers that brought the price down
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  • sangodoc
    sangodoc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Ninja_Dagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    u shuda been there when gold went up to 1.5M a piece... good times good times
    Heh... I remember one time on Dreamweaver when, for a mere $32, I could have sent the highest gold buy price from 740k/gold down to 420k/gold. I was soooo tempted to do that just to see how the market reacted.
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