Can we quit whining about the expansion?

LilPinkBunny - Sanctuary
LilPinkBunny - Sanctuary Posts: 9 Arc User
edited January 2011 in General Discussion
Seriously you guys I am sick of hearing about how horrible the expansion is gonna be when its not even here yet.
Not everyone is going to love there seeker or mystic that they make.
The Barbs, Healers, even venos (like me) are not going to be obsolete we can't. One I bet you the mystic's heal is good but not as good as a cleric its probably equivalent to the Psychics heal.
Also ok there are tons of bm's, sins, etc that steal aggro from barbs all the time so who cares if there is another toon added to that list. The barbs are not going to go extinct.
There are always new people joining and unless there has been a worldwide convention made saying that each person cannot choose a cleric or barb then they will still be chosen!!
Please stop complaining and just wait for the expansion. For all we know it could be a great update to the game or completely fail. We will not know this until it comes out though will we.

So wait until it comes out and see what happens. THen you will have the right to complain or rave about it. Because I'm sick and tired of hearing all over about people freaking about it. Yes I'm a veno and I am a little intimidated by the mystic and its pets that it can summon but I have heard that it still can't even touch a veno's luring skills. So I think they are purposely making the bomb skill wise but trying to balance them out. So please just wait for it to come out.
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  • Siege - Dreamweaver
    Siege - Dreamweaver Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    *Holds a gun to your head* YOU'RE GOING TO READ MORE QQ THREADS AND YOU'RE GOING TO ****ING LIKE IT!!!b:angry
    b:sweat
  • Ruxal - Harshlands
    Ruxal - Harshlands Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I concur, instead lets get back to qq about 5.0 aps.

    Dear developers let sins and bms keep 5.0 aps. Instead of nerfing it can you please add more -chan pieces to the game that I can get easy like lunar rings with -12 b:laugh.
  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    By you QQing about people QQing over the expansion all you are doing is making more QQ and yet another thread for people to QQ about the expansion.

    QQ
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  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    LilPinkBunny - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yes I'm a veno and I am a little intimidated by the mystic and its pets that it can summon but I have heard that it still can't even touch a veno's luring skills.

    *raises hand*

    Uh, ma'am, where's it still necessary to have a veno to lure?
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  • Sunked - Lost City
    Sunked - Lost City Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide wrote: »
    By you QQing about people QQing over the expansion all you are doing is making more QQ and yet another thread for people to QQ about the expansion.

    QQ

    QQ
    the worst r ppl QQing about ppl QQuing about ppl QQing
  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sunked - Lost City wrote: »
    QQ
    the worst r ppl QQing about ppl QQuing about ppl QQing

    Don't QQ about me QQing over her QQing about people QQing.
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  • Laranda - Heavens Tear
    Laranda - Heavens Tear Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    LilPinkBunny - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seriously you guys I am sick of hearing about how horrible the expansion is gonna be when its not even here yet.

    Amen

    I swear... every time there's an expansion for a pwe game that involves new classes, this happens. I know it happened in JD too... "omg that balo is tanking asc lupins!!!" (Balos ended up being considered the weakest class ingame.)

    PWI is no exception.
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Can we just quit whining in general?
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  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Can we just quit whining in general?

    Probability of this happening: 0%
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  • Allynna_ - Dreamweaver
    Allynna_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    *raises hand*

    Uh, ma'am, where's it still necessary to have a veno to lure?

    You Try using a Zeal genie to pull Ofo? Half the time you fall in, or die before you get to the tank.

    Not to mention Veno Pulls have no real cool down, double the range, and can pull more than one mob at a time if desired. Not needed, but it's a heck of a lot better than the alternatives.
  • Sunked - Lost City
    Sunked - Lost City Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    i would but there is this person

    QQing about me QQing about him QQing about someone QQing about other people QQing


    and QQ i hate QQers like this
  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Allynna_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You Try using a Zeal genie to pull Ofo? Half the time you fall in, or die before you get to the tank.

    Not to mention Veno Pulls have no real cool down, double the range, and can pull more than one mob at a time if desired. Not needed, but it's a heck of a lot better than the alternatives.

    If you fall in or die it is due to fail. With a higher lvl genie cool down time isn't an issue as the cool down you are referring to is waiting for its energy to recharge. You don't need range if you know where to stand. And if a sin accidentally aggros while pulling shadow escape will deaggro the mobs, if a veno aggros when pulling you can't deaggro.

    I can generally pull any boss with: Deaden nerves+Earth flame+Wind push
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  • Waterfal - Sanctuary
    Waterfal - Sanctuary Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide wrote: »
    If you fall in or die it is due to fail. With a higher lvl genie cool down time isn't an issue as the cool down you are referring to is waiting for its energy to recharge. You don't need range if you know where to stand. And if a sin accidentally aggros while pulling shadow escape will deaggro the mobs, if a veno aggros when pulling you can't deaggro.

    I can generally pull any boss with: Deaden nerves+Earth flame+Wind push

    Are you trying to say a zeal is a better lurer then a veno? .____."""
    We have more range.. and the only way that we can agro more mobs then one is if you lure with a brambled pet which is in general only a herc...
    Sometimes yeh, pet summons back next to you because of range, but a smart veno will simply unsummon their pet so the mobs reset instead of trying to kill it >.>
    Less chance of failing for a veno pull, unless the veno is fail... .-.;

    and ontopic:
    Can I QQ about the colour/font then you wrote your post in?
    Anyway... it gives me a good read every now and then... all the QQ-threads... .-.
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  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Are you trying to say a zeal is a better lurer then a veno? .____."""
    We have more range.. and the only way that we can agro more mobs then one is if you lure with a brambled pet which is in general only a herc...
    Sometimes yeh, pet summons back next to you because of range, but a smart veno will simply unsummon their pet so the mobs reset instead of trying to kill it >.>
    Less chance of failing for a veno pull, unless the veno is fail... .-.;

    and ontopic:
    Can I QQ about the colour/font then you wrote your post in?
    Anyway... it gives me a good read every now and then... all the QQ-threads... .-.

    Not that a zeal is better than a veno, but it makes a veno not needed for luring. Also I believe a few sin skills compliment the Zeal lure which makes it more effective for longer pulls [such as nob/pole in wraithgate].
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  • Freizer - Lost City
    Freizer - Lost City Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Stopping The QQing on a forum, is the same as dividing by zero, and thus would effectively end the world.

    to the OP: why do you want to destroy the world? b:shocked
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    *raises hand*

    Uh, ma'am, where's it still necessary to have a veno to lure?

    Who uses venos anymore? All you have to do is send the barb in lure any nearby adds and invoke and roarb:bye.
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  • Waterfal - Sanctuary
    Waterfal - Sanctuary Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Who uses venos anymore? All you have to do is send the barb in lure any nearby adds and invoke and roarb:bye.

    [flames report for duty]

    fine ^^ send a barb into the pit without at ofotis let him get perma stunned by the adds and leave him there to die ^-^ have fun!
    Also let those TT bosses not be amped and take longer ^-^
    Let them produce an armour/mindbreak on bosses themselves.
    Try to let them deal non nerfed damage on lvl ? bosses in TT and frost with their all-class pet ^-^
    Let them pull halls in fcc without a bramble to keep some more agro ^^
    Let people QQ for sparks when they need them somewhere else please ;D

    We're soooo useless and unwanted in squads b:cute

    have fun and good luck with it ;D
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  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »
    [flames report for duty]

    fine ^^ send a barb into the pit without at ofotis let him get perma stunned by the adds and leave him there to die ^-^ have fun!
    Also let those TT bosses not be amped and take longer ^-^
    Let them produce an armour/mindbreak on bosses themselves.
    Try to let them deal non nerfed damage on lvl ? bosses in TT and frost with their all-class pet ^-^
    Let them pull halls in fcc without a bramble to keep some more agro ^^
    Let people QQ for sparks when they need them somewhere else please ;D

    We're soooo useless and unwanted in squads b:cute

    have fun and good luck with it ;D

    Non-nerfed damage. b:nosebleed

    Didn't say venos were useless, just that for pulling they aren't really needed at higher lvls.

    Though in a TT run I can't think of a better squad member to have.
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  • Freizer - Lost City
    Freizer - Lost City Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »
    [flames report for duty]
    Not to negatively reply or anything.


    fine ^^ send a barb into the pit without at ofotis let him get perma stunned by the adds and leave him there to die ^-^ have fun!
    This is taken care by barbs who have a zeal genie (everyone shoud)
    Also let those TT bosses not be amped and take longer ^-^
    The amount of DPS squads are pumping out now, amp isn't missed as much as it used to be.
    Let them produce an armour/mindbreak on bosses themselves.
    Try to let them deal non nerfed damage on lvl ? bosses in TT and frost with their all-class pet ^-^ Once again, DPS out of "modern" squads outstrips that of most venos now (and most other classes) and don't mock my all class huggy hare :< his name is Mr. Squiggles
    Let them pull halls in fcc without a bramble to keep some more agro ^^
    This is my "main" beef with this post, most barbs will use alpha male all the time in frost, and thus canceling out bramble, and alpha male > bramble (asset wise)

    Let people QQ for sparks when they need them somewhere else please ;D
    Any player should (especially barbs ) know how to get their own sparks quickly if need be (appoc, beastial rage, smacking mobs/npcs) Venos are just incredibly nice to make it easier for us.

    We're soooo useless and unwanted in squads b:cute


    have fun and good luck with it ;D
    I like having Venos in my squads, except when they pull the outdated herc-better-than-tank issue b:surrender

    Edit: also , if i'm wrong on the veno damage please point it out to me, it's just what I know/have heard.
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    While I agree with the OP, its kinda impossible with all the bored people out here on the forums.

    As for venos, I certainly do like what they bring to a squad but in the absence of one, we do have alternate methods to achieve the same result.

    Pro way to lure Pole/Nob in Wraithgate: STA it and run like hell towards the tank or if youre the tank, winged shell -> shift to fists and go bam bam bam b:laugh
  • Waterfal - Sanctuary
    Waterfal - Sanctuary Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I gues irony/sarcasm is hard to read on forums... b:surrender

    oh and on a side note.. A good veno will pay attention, soon as I see alpha male being cast I have already targetted the barb, ready to give a new bramble when the other one is gone ;)
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Basically venos are as useless as an assassin without 3aps+ at end game.
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  • Waterfal - Sanctuary
    Waterfal - Sanctuary Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Basically venos are as useless as an assassin without 3aps+ at end game.

    Great! that means veno's aren't useless since assasins without 3aps+ aren't useless b:bye

    90% of the squads might prefer aps. But that doesn't mean other people become useless.
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  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I don't have 3+APS and I have never been denied/kicked from a squad for it.
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Great! that means veno's aren't useless since assasins without 3aps+ aren't useless b:bye

    90% of the squads might prefer aps. But that doesn't mean other people become useless.

    Wait what?
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    necessary: something that without it you cant finish the run
    nice-to-have: something that makes the run smoother, cuts some costs

    bramble, amp, lure, chi, purge are nice; yet they are faar from necessary for most runs

    sov, EP, earthflame, cloud eruption, lunar bow anyone?
  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I like how defensive people get when someone claims their class isn't special. It's funny to read. b:cute
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I like how defensive people get when someone claims their class isn't special. It's funny to read. b:cute

    ^Thisb:laugh



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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I like how defensive people get when someone claims their class isn't special. It's funny to read. b:cute


    without a psy you dont have sparkly skill animations b:cool
  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    without a psy you dont have sparkly skill animations b:cool

    So manly. b:cute
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