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BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

RioNHale - Archosaur wrote: »

Nemesis A vs Nemesis B b:shutup

Hardly. If that were true, why would I leave Narla to join "Nemesis B" if that is the case? I was already at the top of the mountain, as some would see it.

Elusive would never hold the server hostage and sit back taking land every week in a 20 minute charade of a TW.

We would leave faction, as we did once Narla fell.

We would let factions that were relatively equally matched fight it out, like we did with Nemesis and Darkside.

We want long TWs, preferably 2 each week, and not just for us, but for the whole server if possible.

We don't want land, or "achievement", or notariety, blah blah blah.

We don't believe in order to have friends on this server you have to be in faction with them.

By comparison, we do believe that in order to have fun TW, the power needs to be evenly disbursed throughout the server.

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Hardly. If that were true, why would I leave Narla to join "Nemesis B" if that is the case? I was already at the top of the mountain, as some would see it.

Elusive would never hold the server hostage and sit back taking land every week in a 20 minute charade of a TW.

We would leave faction, as we did once Narla fell.

We would let factions that were relatively equally matched fight it out, like we did with Nemesis and Darkside.

We want long TWs, preferably 2 each week, and not just for us, but for the whole server if possible.

We don't want land, or "achievement", or notariety, blah blah blah.

We don't believe in order to have friends on this server you have to be in faction with them.

By comparison, we do believe that in order to have fun TW, the power needs to be evenly disbursed throughout the server.

That's not what happened though.... Proski gave everyone the choice to leave because he was banned and where did he tell everyone to go? Nemesis.

Proski - Archosaur

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That's not what happened though.... Proski gave everyone the choice to leave because he was banned and where did he tell everyone to go? Nemesis.

how many times do I have to expain this? I told like 15 people on vent to go to nemesis, and made another post about how people can do whatever they want. that supports what blood was saying because at that point in time nemesis having any future was grim because nobody from narla wanted to go follow fruit head and darkside looked like the next powerhouse, coming away with all the best DD's and whatnot.

it was precisely trying to help balance things, what nemesis ended up doing afterwards was not what I was supporting when I first talked to kat and mango and they seemed so past playing for a legacy after it worn them out in narla

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That's not what happened though.... Proski gave everyone the choice to leave because he was banned and where did he tell everyone to go? Nemesis.

Proski didn't "give" everyone the choice to leave. Everyone ALWAYS has the choice to leave.

Like I said, I viewed Elusive as a tool to restore balance. Narla fell, balance was restored, so there was no need for everyone to stay together.

The problem now is that many that fixed the problem once don't seem to want to fix it again, and the Rank 8/Rank 9 sale allowed power to be entrenched with far fewer people and far faster than should have otherwise been possible.

BTW Miz, I love that you move around. I really think Rank 9 was uncalled for though. 1 shotting venos in TW make wizzies feel even smaller than 5 aps classes do in TT/Nirvana.

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

how many times do I have to expain this? I told like 15 people on vent to go to nemesis, and made another post about how people can do whatever they want. that supports what blood was saying because at that point in time nemesis having any future was grim because nobody from narla wanted to go follow fruit head and darkside looked like the next powerhouse, coming away with all the best DD's and whatnot.

it was precisely trying to help balance things, what nemesis ended up doing afterwards was not what I was supporting when I first talked to kat and mango and they seemed so past playing for a legacy after it worn them out in narla

And the point of my comment was that we didn't decide to disband because of destroying Narla. It was because we couldn't do any TW because of your circumstance and some of of us were going to PW-MY. And looking back at it, things were pretty even with the people from Elusive spread out between the many factions. When Elusive reformed it took a lot of the strength from Waiheke and others.

Proski - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Proski didn't "give" everyone the choice to leave. Everyone ALWAYS has the choice to leave.

Like I said, I viewed Elusive as a tool to restore balance. Narla fell, balance was restored, so there was no need for everyone to stay together.

The problem now is that many that fixed the problem once don't seem to want to fix it again, and the Rank 8/Rank 9 sale allowed power to be entrenched with far fewer people and far faster than should have otherwise been possible.

BTW Miz, I love that you move around. I really think Rank 9 was uncalled for though. 1 shotting venos in TW make wizzies feel even smaller than 5 aps classes do in TT/Nirvana.

i don't know, when I hear miz talk about how she gets help in nemesis i just laugh. what the **** more can a +12 rank9 player improve upon that they need help, just cash shop it

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

i don't know, when I hear miz talk about how she gets help in nemesis i just laugh. what the **** more can a +12 rank9 player improve upon that they need help, just cash shop it

Sush, she needs help farming those minibosses for iron guards that aries keeps posting on the other thread.

Now be nice to Mizandry, or she will neuter you.b:sad

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And the point of my comment was that we didn't decide to disband because of destroying Narla.

Well, while it is true that some of the members wanted to stay in Elusive and keep chasing down narla, etc., there were many of us that were ready to go elsewhere, and some of us that were happy to start leveling their alts . . . .

Proski - Archosaur

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And the point of my comment was that we didn't decide to disband because of destroying Narla. It was because we couldn't do any TW because of your circumstance and some of of us were going to PW-MY. And looking back at it, things were pretty even with the people from Elusive spread out between the many factions. When Elusive reformed it took a lot of the strength from Waiheke and others.

lol, when you guys had no idea how long I was banned for and I wanted to disband elusive and be done with it you were one of the loudest voices on vent about how we should stay together and keep it going, we "earned" 1k and so you guys would be damned if you didn't get it, despite there being no competition.

secondly, when I came back and remade Elusive, yes there were unintended consequences for some factions, but the biggest difference between us and nemesis will always be what happened in light of that, we didn't use it to **** other people up.

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Proski didn't "give" everyone the choice to leave. Everyone ALWAYS has the choice to leave.

Like I said, I viewed Elusive as a tool to restore balance. Narla fell, balance was restored, so there was no need for everyone to stay together.

The problem now is that many that fixed the problem once don't seem to want to fix it again, and the Rank 8/Rank 9 sale allowed power to be entrenched with far fewer people and far faster than should have otherwise been possible.

BTW Miz, I love that you move around. I really think Rank 9 was uncalled for though. 1 shotting venos in TW make wizzies feel even smaller than 5 aps classes do in TT/Nirvana.

The reason many won't do it again is because of things that happened within Elusive and what people say after you leave a faction. When I left Elusive I didn't have hate on anyone. But when I joined PHOENIX, I started getting called a betraying *bleep* and getting cursed at by people I don't even know... Why would anyone want to be in a faction with people like that? There is a way to handle a situation and that's just now how you do it.

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Sush, she needs help farming those minibosses for iron guards that aries keeps posting on the other thread.

Now be nice to Mizandry, or she will neuter you.b:sad

No actually, I needed help with delta and they helped with that. It wasn't about gear, it was mainly about my getting my culti done.

Proski - Archosaur

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The reason many won't do it again is because of things that happened within Elusive and what people say after you leave a faction. When I left Elusive I didn't have hate on anyone. But when I joined PHOENIX, I started getting called a betraying *bleep* and getting cursed at by people I don't even know... Why would anyone want to be in a faction with people like that? There is a way to handle a situation and that's just now how you do it.

lol, who said this? i am always interested in these kinda stories because they get twisted a lot. you guys tried to say the same thing about me and how I told people to not buff you in the pk tourney when that was obviously a flat out lie

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The reason many won't do it again is because of things that happened within Elusive and what people say after you leave a faction. When I left Elusive I didn't have hate on anyone. But when I joined PHOENIX, I started getting called a betraying *bleep* and getting cursed at by people I don't even know... Why would anyone want to be in a faction with people like that? There is a way to handle a situation and that's just now how you do it.

I don't understand - a bunch of unknowns insult you and its how "we" handled it? I would have just blacklisted them and forgot about it, not allowed it to build up hard feelings against the leader.

Its what I did with Banana, Pluto, SKihaveacoochi and now that 1 shot cata barb, and I don't find fault with Mango and Kat for it?

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

lol, who said this? i am always interested in these kinda stories because they get twisted a lot. you guys tried to say the same thing about me and how I told people to not buff you in the pk tourney when that was obviously a flat out lie

Wnb told Auth you said that when Auth asked for buff, so ya.... And I think it was Elecmon, but I'm really not sure. Was right after I joined PHOENIX and we were outside of west pking.

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

I don't understand - a bunch of unknowns insult you and its how "we" handled it? I would have just blacklisted them and forgot about it, not allowed it to build up hard feelings against the leader.

Its what I did with Banana and Pluto, and I don't find fault with Mango and Kat for it?

No my issues with the leader are a completely different story...

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wnb told Auth you said that when Auth asked for buff, so ya.... And I think it was Elecmon, but I'm really not sure. Was right after I joined PHOENIX and we were outside of west pking.

Me have lvl 10 barb buff miz, ill buff ya.

And don't blame WNB, he's a bit of a troublemaker - and he doesn't even buff me in TW most of the time . . . .

Proski - Archosaur

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No my issues with the leader are a completely different story...

what, I was offline when I heard about the saphire gem

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

what, I was offline when I heard about the saphire gem

Ummm it wasn't about a sapphire gem...

Martiin - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Lets call this the "BLOODMYSTIC is a Genius Solution" since it is guaranteed to

(1) bore some people outta Nemesis:

Rank 9? $1,500
Application to top TW Faction? $0
Carrying around Rank 9 weapon with noone to use it on? Priceless

(2) demonstrate once and for all that they want the map, not fun TW.

O blood, always giving me a nice chuckle.

On a side note, not really directed towards anyway in particular. But how long do we plan on bashing Miz on her spending? I mean...even I am bored of it. Sure a funny comment comes about here and there but most are repetitive.

I enjoyed bloods analogy, try to be more creative in your flaming people. b:bye

AgentPotato - Archosaur

Martiin - Archosaur wrote: »

O blood, always giving me a nice chuckle.

On a side note, not really directed towards anyway in particular. But how long do we plan on bashing Miz on her spending? I mean...even I am bored of it. Sure a funny comment comes about here and there but most are repetitive.

I enjoyed bloods analogy, try to be more creative in your flaming people. b:bye

If only flaming itself were original... b:surrender

sylvester87

Zhadi - Archosaur wrote: »

Mexy r9 psy
Kaboom +12 psy
/||\ - r9 archer

That's it since they lost Miz and lusin and that's why Immunity, who has nothing, really, face-rolled them in a few minutes on the last TW. Just 2 r9's made the difference.

Now, having 12 along with all the rest of the well-geared people on the server...
There's no need for strategy, for organization, for good leadership. Friends from nemesis have PM'd me raging about how unorganized and terribly lead the faction is but they stayed because they just wanted to beat zulusive. Well, zulusive's doing their own thing and, for once, are not focusing on a specific opposing faction. Wonder how long it will take those people to get bored... unless, of course, they have the same goal they had back in narla: the map.

Immunity was not nothing and never was. They have u, angent potato, rionhale, orintaz, rokked, eru, enmaBM, and lot of other lvl 100+ cashoppers. Btw in the last TW a lot of our higher lvls (95+) were not present and we could have done better if they were there. So don't just say becoz Miz and lusin weren't there, we can't give a good fight. Mexy was very late, he only came when the crytsal was down to 10%. Kaboom was a no show too. I remember we had that 3 hr TW against waiheke who that time has borrowed people from elsuive and mexy wasn't rank 9 yet, we didn't have miz, lusin, etc. We defended good which cuz the break up of Waiheke

WnbTank - Archosaur

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wnb told Auth you said that when Auth asked for buff, so ya.... And I think it was Elecmon, but I'm really not sure. Was right after I joined PHOENIX and we were outside of west pking.

I remember that but something I have to say. I might have looked wrongly, my school has been suggesting I got minor dyslexia. To put it short, it might have been somebody else entirely who said it, it might have been confusing denial with allowance, etc. I can only say what I saw, I thought it was proski who said ppl shouldn`t buff you, in general, on faction chat. I may have put it wrongly, it was no direct command towards me, suggesting that would be flat out lie, yet I may have brought it up in bad way. Anyway, if it had been any member of Zulusive who said it, wouldn`t have changed my decision to not buff, ultimately it was about sage buffs, I had those on me, which are superior compared to my demon ones.

Anyways, when you say Nemesis helped you with your culti, dont lie. I think I was on every single delta you did, I remember lot more zulusive in those than Nemesis. To say, Zulusive members helped you with your culti, saying the dont is a lie, we both know it. You may have whatever reasons for doing what you did, just dont throw accusations which are baseless, you got your help, though I admit, it wasnt easy. Then again, it`s always hard, nobody seem to want full deltas these days. When I do delta nowdays, there is at least 1 firstimer to RB in squad, tells pretty much the story.

Ps. I take full responsbility of the comment about not buffing, it`s what I saw but I really wouldnt put that much weight into it. It`s more likely that I had one of those moments when I missed something as I trust Proski wouldn`t lie about it, he seems to stick with his word, in good and bad.

RioNHale - Archosaur

sylvester87 wrote: »

Immunity was not nothing and never was. They have u, angent potato, rionhale, orintaz, rokked, eru, enmaBM, and lot of other lvl 100+ cashoppers. Btw in the last TW a lot of our higher lvls (95+) were not present and we could have done better if they were there. So don't just say becoz Miz and lusin weren't there, we can't give a good fight. Mexy was very late, he only came when the crytsal was down to 10%. Kaboom was a no show too. I remember we had that 3 hr TW against waiheke who that time has borrowed people from elsuive and mexy wasn't rank 9 yet, we didn't have miz, lusin, etc. We defended good which cuz the break up of Waiheke

I think he was talking refine wise,

I think Orintaz has a +5 or +6 r8 weapon.

Zhadi's got a +10 r8, bow but is no longer with us.

Potato has like 4 pieces of +10 gear (our biggest cser b:shutup)

EnmaBM's gear is between +2 and +5 with +8 tt100 fists.

and Rokked has +3 gears. ._.

Eru is using a +4 rank8 sword but dosent cash shop hes just very smart with what he has.

I myself have 2 pieces of +6 gear, a +8 g13 weapon the rest is +5.


some of these players may appear to be massively overgeared csers, but the difference between g13 +12 and g16 +12 is enormous.

Like 70% of phoenix firepower came from that one R9 squad because of the "one shotting for 15k unsparked"


thats what zhadi meant, PHOENIX had way more "beast OP players" in the faction, showing how broken tw is by their influence, and NEMESIS has a "beast OP player" force much larger than that.

R9 cash shopped players make an enourmous difference and have a huge stage presence in tw compared to the gear of any of the players you mentioned from Immunity. b:surrender

WnbTank - Archosaur

To the Rion`s quote. I was one of those Elusive members who were in Waiheke, on that 3hr TW. Wasnt our biggest CS members, maybe 5 r8s and 5 others, some 8x too. Sure, we made an huge impact to Waiheke TWs, yet it wasnt some Elusive`s strenght that you hold off. Mexy had R9 wep, not armor though, was 1shot if could get to him. Anyways, you cant compare R9 +12 to +12 anything else. You seen miz? She is perfect example, no offence, her R9 wep 1shot(Sparked crit, granted) all but 1 toon on server. That toon has spent thousands of dollars into this game and yet miz could solo her. R9 itself aint that broken but when you add jones blessings, oh boy.

When I get hit 16k+ trough solid shield that absorbs 60% out of damage(Real strong genie), it`s simply ridiculous. I was fully buffed and had no debuff on me btw. It was crit, so w/o blessing damage would have been 12k hit. That is still quite absurd but something you can accept from crit coming from a robe class. But yeah, w/o solid shield that hit had been ~28k on me as a jones + crit, ~20k as a crit w/o jones, simple hit w/o jones ~10k.

Ps. Some barbs may be able to live the raw 28k hit I got, due better m.def, yet I wasnt amped, I cant see anything but pannzy`s gear surviving that. Well defence charms, wish I had lvl 8 apo. Oh well, my point was, R9 alone wouldnt be that bad, jones blessings make it truly broken.

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

I remember that but something I have to say. I might have looked wrongly, my school has been suggesting I got minor dyslexia. To put it short, it might have been somebody else entirely who said it, it might have been confusing denial with allowance, etc. I can only say what I saw, I thought it was proski who said ppl shouldn`t buff you, in general, on faction chat. I may have put it wrongly, it was no direct command towards me, suggesting that would be flat out lie, yet I may have brought it up in bad way. Anyway, if it had been any member of Zulusive who said it, wouldn`t have changed my decision to not buff, ultimately it was about sage buffs, I had those on me, which are superior compared to my demon ones.

Anyways, when you say Nemesis helped you with your culti, dont lie. I think I was on every single delta you did, I remember lot more zulusive in those than Nemesis. To say, Zulusive members helped you with your culti, saying the dont is a lie, we both know it. You may have whatever reasons for doing what you did, just dont throw accusations which are baseless, you got your help, though I admit, it wasnt easy. Then again, it`s always hard, nobody seem to want full deltas these days. When I do delta nowdays, there is at least 1 firstimer to RB in squad, tells pretty much the story.

Ps. I take full responsbility of the comment about not buffing, it`s what I saw but I really wouldnt put that much weight into it. It`s more likely that I had one of those moments when I missed something as I trust Proski wouldn`t lie about it, he seems to stick with his word, in good and bad.

You were on 2 of my deltas and I included you in the helping. MeleeHit was the other barb who helped me with my delta runs. And I think one other Zulusive was on a run once, but overall it was Nemesis and PHOENIX.

WnbTank - Archosaur

MiZandrY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You were on 2 of my deltas and I included you in the helping. MeleeHit was the other barb who helped me with my delta runs. And I think one other Zulusive was on a run once, but overall it was Nemesis and PHOENIX.

Well those times I did lots of delta, I honestly may confuse your runs with some others where most ppl were Zulusive. And I could swear I have finished 3 or 4 deltas with you, not 2. Oh well, I can only tell you what I remember, however wrongly I may remember.

Ps. Honestly I dont mind wouldnt you mention me, I dont help ppl so I would be some pal of everybody, I`ll do it for the sake of helping when I got time.

BigFIuffy - Archosaur

RioNHale - Archosaur wrote: »

I think he was talking refine wise,

I think Orintaz has a +5 or +6 r8 weapon.

Zhadi's got a +10 r8, bow but is no longer with us.

Potato has like 4 pieces of +10 gear (our biggest cser b:shutup)

EnmaBM's gear is between +2 and +5 with +8 tt100 fists.

and Rokked has +3 gears. ._.

Eru is using a +4 rank8 sword but dosent cash shop hes just very smart with what he has.

I myself have 2 pieces of +6 gear, a +8 g13 weapon the rest is +5.


some of these players may appear to be massively overgeared csers, but the difference between g13 +12 and g16 +12 is enormous.

Like 70% of phoenix firepower came from that one R9 squad because of the "one shotting for 15k unsparked"


thats what zhadi meant, PHOENIX had way more "beast OP players" in the faction, showing how broken tw is by their influence, and NEMESIS has a "beast OP player" force much larger than that.

R9 cash shopped players make an enourmous difference and have a huge stage presence in tw compared to the gear of any of the players you mentioned from Immunity. b:surrender

RION

YOUR MY HERO

WHEN I SEE YOU IN GAME WILL YOU SIGN MY PAN GU AXE b:victory

AgentPotato - Archosaur

RioNHale - Archosaur wrote: »

I think he was talking refine wise,

I think Orintaz has a +5 or +6 r8 weapon.

Zhadi's got a +10 r8, bow but is no longer with us.

Potato has like 4 pieces of +10 gear (our biggest cser b:shutup)

EnmaBM's gear is between +2 and +5 with +8 tt100 fists.

and Rokked has +3 gears. ._.

Eru is using a +4 rank8 sword but dosent cash shop hes just very smart with what he has.

I myself have 2 pieces of +6 gear, a +8 g13 weapon the rest is +5.


some of these players may appear to be massively overgeared csers, but the difference between g13 +12 and g16 +12 is enormous.

Like 70% of phoenix firepower came from that one R9 squad because of the "one shotting for 15k unsparked"


thats what zhadi meant, PHOENIX had way more "beast OP players" in the faction, showing how broken tw is by their influence, and NEMESIS has a "beast OP player" force much larger than that.

R9 cash shopped players make an enourmous difference and have a huge stage presence in tw compared to the gear of any of the players you mentioned from Immunity. b:surrender

Yes, I'm definitely the biggest you've ever had, Rion. b:sin

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

edit

removing a totally irrelevant post as it turns out.

RioNHale - Archosaur

AgentPotato - Archosaur wrote: »

Yes, I'm definitely the biggest you've ever had, Rion. b:sin

b:dirty

MeXyCaN - Archosaur

I tink my engleesh geteeng beterr reding forumms. I like too mush. b:victory

PWI is to blame and not the individuals getting the OP stuff. I myself am not a heavy cashshopper, most of my rank9 came from the 700m i saved which took me 6 months to get. I was saving for TT100 with +12 but when rank sale came about...well everyone would have done the same as I. The sacrifice of only using TT90 gear and not TT99 was how i made the 700m.

Rank9 does make a difference in TW's as you've seen from my TW vids like Rio pointed out. I think at one point at the begining of TW with Immunity I was out there B gate and just one-shooting everyone that came out of gate long enough for our catas to come in. Was funny though from my perspective...maybe not so much from the other end but hey, its a game and a way to entertain yourself is what I say.

The last TW with Immunity should have been a long TW but I was out of town. I got in TW when our crystal was at 10% 4 catas attacking. Two show how much of a difference an R9 makes, I demon sparked, aoed and 3 out of the 4 catas dropped. I think then Immunity saw i just logged in and they started targeting me. Couldnt get the last cata in time hehe.

Being squishy and a one shot to some sins and archers is a sacrafice and choice i've made for power. I've gotten many pm's etc that i'm to squishy but how i see it, most of arch is squishy to me. If i can kill it before they get to me then there is no loss. Just need to get around those sins with high damage and HP. Other sins are no problem since my demon retaliation can do upto 10k+ reflect.

Well now with a +12 weapon (thanks to the recent pack sale which i made over 200m) and getting most of my demon aoe skills, I should be doing lots more damage. Just feel sorry for those barbs with lots of HP cause of charm ****. I'm looking forword to TW to test out this new found power LOL. I need find me some targets.

Dunno why there are no other rank9 psy in arch. I think psy utilize R9 more than any other class in my opinion. Maybe next sale u will see more pop out.

Stats

Blackvodoo (+22 attack lvl)
R9 full set +12 weapon (+63 attack lvl)
Blessing (+30 attack lvl)
Dots (+15 attack lvl)

Total +130 attack lvl & +20 defense lvl with blackvodoo.

Still working on second cast cape and helm to get more vit, mag, pdef. Dunno what shards ill put in yet, maybe garnets but dunno. These two pieces second cast will also give another +5 attack lvl.

Stil need to work on cube protection necklace so im not so squishy on melee attacks. Gold is to get 9 of these for 3rd cast which give +5 attack and defense lvls.

Need to also refine my gear to +10 some day but i'ma poor mexycan. Spend most of my monies on tequilla and women...LOL.

enough ranting, this is the biggest post for a mexy to have posted...b:bye