Is it even legal? PWI theft!
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LOL what? Your friends fault for going red. b:bye0
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Let me see . .
1. Kasira give boots to cleric friend
2. The cleric accidentally PK someone
3. The cleric name color change, which is enable item drop when receive PK
4. Someone PK the cleric
5. The boots from Kasira dropped and the player killer take it
6. Kasira goes mad
7. Kasira demand PWE give her boots back because it's immoral
8. Kasira explain that was her rights, she earn the boots with her own cash, it's her friend that made it lost
b:shocked . . . >.>[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sorry i speak engrish b:chuckle
Nickname doesn't have anything to do with sailor but related to a folklore
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Your friend accidently went pink, then another person came, killed your friend and dropped items that belonged to you. If you read the PK rules you would already see that pink=chance of dropping items, so technically the person who took "your boots" isn't in the wrong, he/she is just following the rules, he/she killed your friend (who was pink) who dropped items. Those items are now his/hers, sounds bad but there u go. Next time look at what others posted here, and follow those (also why didn't u kill that psy and try to get them back, theres a chance they could of dropped unless they took precaution). It's perfectally "legal" for this to happen. And also you don't even "own" your character/items, PWI does.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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o.o I thought Harshlands was a PvP server?Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »And FYI, I never PK either. I hate Pker's, never done it, never will.
Anyway, like a lot of people already said, PWE already owns everything in the game, so it's not like you can sue them for something that's already theirs. It sucks that what was virtually "yours" ingame is lost, especially when it was accidental that your friend turned pink then got killed afterwards...but it was your choice that you let your friend use your item. And being on a PvP server...well, you should have known the risks that was stringed along.
I can only give suggestions to either a) ask the PKer to kindly return the item if they still have it...but don't bother harassing them for it because then, they can turn you in for well...harassment; b) PK them back and hope they drop the item or something of equal or greater value to sell back; c) ask your friend to get a replacement; or d) get it yourself again.
o.o Let it be a lesson to you both...
For you, be cautious of who you lend your items to. Ask yourself questions: if they PK, will they keep my item safe? do they use safety lock or use GSs? if they lose it, are they willing to replace it asap? etc.
For your friend, hopefully they learn to be careful next time...mistakes happen and all we can really do is learn from them and move on.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
inbe4 legal
1. read ToS
2. pixels aren't "real"
3. pwi gave us pve servers, pvp protection, safety lock, guardian scrolls...how can anyone still qq about droping?
4. everything in pwi is owned by pwi and all you can get is the ability to use it... if they decide to shutdown the server guess what happens to your precious items? your money is gone!
5. U TROLL?i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss0 -
If there someone to blame that was your friend. b:surrender
Or maybe just a bad luck.
At last the drop isn't like some examples on these forum if you look around. b:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sorry i speak engrish b:chuckle
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First and only thing that should be said about this:
"20. Acknowledgements
You hereby acknowledge and agree that:
* (a) WHEN USING THE SERVICES, THE SOFTWARE MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) AND/OR CPU PROCESSES FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE SOFTWARE. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY "ADD-ON" OR "MOD," THAT IN PWE's SOLE DETERMINATION: (i) ENABLES OR FACILITATES CHEATING OF ANY TYPE; (ii) ALLOWS USERS TO MODIFY OR **** THE SOFTWARE INTERFACE, ENVIRONMENT, AND/OR EXPERIENCE IN ANY WAY NOT EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY PWE; OR (iii) INTERCEPTS, "MINES," OR OTHERWISE COLLECTS INFORMATION FROM OR THROUGH THE SOFTWARE. IN THE EVENT THAT THE SOFTWARE DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, IT MAY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO PWE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM WAS DETECTED; AND/OR AND PERFECT WORLD ENTERTAINMNET MAY EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS SECTION OF THE AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER.
# (b) PWE MAY MONITOR OR RECORD YOUR CHAT SESSIONS AND OTHER ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION TRANSMITTED OR RECEIVED THROUGH THE GAME OR THE SERVICE AND YOU CONSENT TO SUCH MONITORING OR RECORDING.
# (c) You may not hold PWE responsible for any loss resulting from your use of the Service or any in-game trading activities. You may not hold PWE responsible for any information that is passed between players. PWE does not guarantee the safe keeping of information that is passed between players and will not be held responsible for any resulting losses or consequences arising from the improper use of said information. You may not hold PWE responsible for any in-game feature or item loss. PWE does not guarantee the availability of any in-game items, any Services or any levels to players.
In short, you should have read the Terms of Service BEFORE even making an account, much less spending money on this game. If you don't like it, don't spend money on it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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It's perfectly legal since you don't own any single thing in perfect world under the law. I'm pretty sure its under terms of service that any gold you buy is property of perfect world entertainment and you are just using it.
Thats why its also perfectly legal that perfect world can shut down their game at any given moment and they are not obliged to pay back the gamers for all the money they have spent.
Next time tell your friend to carry dolls or safety lock.
Edit: damn people beat me to it
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Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »You can't play the game with safety lock on, you ought to know that. And having lost wings that you paid cash for... why aren't you complaining? Being a sycophant to get the GM's onside isn't going to get things changed for the better. Why accept flaws and unacceptable features when you have a forum here to vent your feelings? Nothing is going to change for the better so long as so people keep a stiff upper lip and accept the unacceptable.
Now I paid cash for my gold, sold the gold and bought those boots. Basically, I used my cash to get those boots. For PWI to then decide to take those boots away without my prior consent is both immoral and probably illegal. It's as simple as that! Would you be so accepting if you bought some chocolate, slipped it in your bag only for a shop assistant to take it out and feed it to her friend? No you'd be livid like I am. Or would you go onto the sweet shops forum and defend it? I dont think so.
LOL! Oh man this is hilarious. Thanks OP, I haven't laughed this hard in ages.
Wait. Oh god, you're actually serious aren't you? b:shockedYou have three chances to guess the reason for the post above.0 -
Okay. I'm sorry that you lost your gear. But to be honest, if your cleric friend went pink, and then stood there going "Oh boy, I hope nobody kills me while I stand here in my vulnerable arcane armor at level 78, waiting to be oneshot by any passers-by" and then was killed, I wouldn't be blaming PWE, I'd be blaming your cleric buddy. I suggest you buy some chocolate, a bottle of pop, and enjoy some endorphins.
Please don't try to throw legal terms at people within this thread. If you intend to spend hard-earned money on this game, then it should not be difficult to spend fifty cents in order to bind the gear you buy to your character. If you choose not to, then you accept that your gear is vulnerable. What happened to your friend was an unfortunate accident, but you cannot blame PWE for it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Falcondance - Heavens Tear wrote: »"Oh boy, I hope nobody kills me while I stand here in my vulnerable arcane armor at level 78, waiting to be oneshot by any passers-by"
best. line. evar.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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LadyTsukiyo - Heavens Tear wrote: »Accident or not, you still set your safety lock JUST IN CASE YOU DROP ITEMS THUS WHY IT'S A SAFEGUARD! It's hard to believe that you're lvl 100. Did you oracle your way to lvl 100?
No, I didn't oracle my way to 100. I worked damn hard for a year and spent a fortune in the process. Don't be so bloody condescending. And this thread was never about safety locks and other safeguards in the first place. You deliberately missed my point and made it about something else entirely.
Anyway, it seems clear that I'm the only who has a problem with a concept of paying stuff and not owning it. That's fair enough. Yes it is in the terms of service, agreed. That doesn't mean it isn't unethical though, in my personal opinion. An opinion I'm pretty sure I'm entitled to. Clearly we all have different opinions of what's ethical and what isn't, however, so let's leave it at that. I think it's wrong, you don't. End of story.
To those who inferred I was asking for my boots back, you're wrong. I never once did anything of the sort. Get your facts straight before attacking me. Those who banged on about safety locks and dolls etc... you missed the point entirely. This was all about whether taking away stuff you paid for was right and justifiable, nothing else. If you couldn't understand the question and still decided to jump in and comment then shame on you. I've said all I need to say, if you want to keep arguing a point I never made then carry on.0 -
Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »No, I didn't oracle my way to 100. I worked damn hard for a year and spent a fortune in the process. Don't be so bloody condescending. And this thread was never about safety locks and other safeguards in the first place. You deliberately missed my point and made it about something else entirely.
Anyway, it seems clear that I'm the only who has a problem with a concept of paying stuff and not owning it. That's fair enough. Yes it is in the terms of service, agreed. That doesn't mean it isn't unethical though, in my personal opinion. An opinion I'm pretty sure I'm entitled to. Clearly we all have different opinions of what's ethical and what isn't, however, so let's leave it at that. I think it's wrong, you don't. End of story.
To those who inferred I was asking for my boots back, you're wrong. I never once did anything of the sort. Get your facts straight before attacking me. Those who banged on about safety locks and dolls etc... you missed the point entirely. This was all about whether taking away stuff you paid for was right and justifiable, nothing else. If you couldn't understand the question and still decided to jump in and comment then shame on you. I've said all I need to say, if you want to keep arguing a point I never made then carry on.
Hey don't be yelling at us; I would send that negative energy to your idiotic friend who thought she wouldn't get attacked on Harshlands in South Outskirts of Archosaur. Seriously. I don't really PvP on that server either, but I know better than to stand around with a pink name without SL there. And why the hell would she need to tempest a level 2x mob anyway? To show off? But that's besides the point, she should have put protections on if there were other people around and it was her fault for being stupid and not going to a SZ in time. Start bugging her for new boots and stop trying to justify that it's unethical. It's a game b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »Last night my friend, a level 78 cleric, was helping a faction member kill the tortoise outside Archosaur. Without thinking she decided to use tempest to kill it and being aoe it accidentally pked a nearby Psy. She immediately apologised and gave them a level 10 res. No harm done, it was purely an accident and that should have been the end of it. Unfortunately, she was then pked by a level 100 Psy and being pink, she dropped the snow dance boots she was wearing. MY snow dance boots. The ones I was intending to give my veno when she hits 70.
Thing is, I bought those boots with coins I gained by selling gold. Gold, I spent my hard earned money on. Now they're gone because PWI randomly opted to take them from my friend and give them to someone else. Now, I can't see how this is legally allowed to happen. You can't take products I paid for with my own money and simply decide I can't have them anymore!
I have absolutely no doubt that if this was the subject in a court of law, no judge in the world would allow PWI to get away with it. Put quite simply, it's theft. It's like buying a CD then having the shop manager steal it back from you before you've left the shop then giving it to someone else.
You seriously need to rethink your PVP drop system because if you keep **** over cash shoppers like this you'll lose them. I'm seriously livid about this, I've spent a small fortune on this game and this is the thanks I get? Theft?
No stupid replies please. I know what the PVP rules are. That's not the point. The point is, is it even legal to take things from players like this? I'm pretty sure it's not and damn certain it shouldn't be. Now instead of having the boots I paid for, some guy who did nothing to earn them is probably selling them in auction. PWI, please stop encouraging these scrawny little thieves and scroungers and start sticking up for the ones who support the game. In my view this episode is thoroughly disgusting.
Unfortunately they wont do a damn thing...My sister lost a set of $30 cash shop wings for having gone into pk mode ....all i can say is lesson learned...neither of us EVER go pk mode now as we had screenie after screenie of proof where she was scammed while he passed the wings to his archer alt and proceeded to sell them outside west gate...needless to say we submitted a ticket...umm hmm PWE's response was more or less thats what she gets for going into pk mode0 -
So you made it to 100 and some how still cant grasp the concept of a PK drop, are you serious?
Your friend was red from pking someone, they didn't have any safeguard on to protect their or your stuff and when they got PKed they lost your stuff. You should go after your friend for not protecting your stuff and not QQ about how pk drops cant be legal because its you and you spent real life money on pixels.0 -
SassiKitty - Heavens Tear wrote: »Unfortunately they wont do a damn thing...My sister lost a set of $30 cash shop wings for having gone into pk mode ....all i can say is lesson learned...neither of us EVER go pk mode now as we had screenie after screenie of proof where she was scammed while he passed the wings to his archer alt and proceeded to sell them outside west gate...needless to say we submitted a ticket...umm hmm PWE's response was more or less thats what she gets for going into pk mode
Because that is her fault for going into pk mode. Did your sister ever bother reading the tOS and understanding that all items are PWE's property and that you only buy the rights to use them in game? So they're not held reliable for your sister's poor judgment.
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I mean seriously all it takes is 20-40 minutes to read the TOS.New Year, New Server.0 -
Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »Last night my friend, a level 78 cleric, was helping a faction member kill the tortoise outside Archosaur. Without thinking she decided to use tempest to kill it and being aoe it accidentally pked a nearby Psy. She immediately apologised and gave them a level 10 res. No harm done, it was purely an accident and that should have been the end of it. Unfortunately, she was then pked by a level 100 Psy and being pink, she dropped the snow dance boots she was wearing. MY snow dance boots. The ones I was intending to give my veno when she hits 70.
Thing is, I bought those boots with coins I gained by selling gold. Gold, I spent my hard earned money on. Now they're gone because PWI randomly opted to take them from my friend and give them to someone else. Now, I can't see how this is legally allowed to happen. You can't take products I paid for with my own money and simply decide I can't have them anymore!
I have absolutely no doubt that if this was the subject in a court of law, no judge in the world would allow PWI to get away with it. Put quite simply, it's theft. It's like buying a CD then having the shop manager steal it back from you before you've left the shop then giving it to someone else.
You seriously need to rethink your PVP drop system because if you keep **** over cash shoppers like this you'll lose them. I'm seriously livid about this, I've spent a small fortune on this game and this is the thanks I get? Theft?
No stupid replies please. I know what the PVP rules are. That's not the point. The point is, is it even legal to take things from players like this? I'm pretty sure it's not and damn certain it shouldn't be. Now instead of having the boots I paid for, some guy who did nothing to earn them is probably selling them in auction. PWI, please stop encouraging these scrawny little thieves and scroungers and start sticking up for the ones who support the game. In my view this episode is thoroughly disgusting.
Dude it dosen't matter if its legal or not because this operation is based in CHINA. so be quite and play the game.0 -
Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »No, I didn't oracle my way to 100. I worked damn hard for a year and spent a fortune in the process. Don't be so bloody condescending. And this thread was never about safety locks and other safeguards in the first place. You deliberately missed my point and made it about something else entirely.
Anyway, it seems clear that I'm the only who has a problem with a concept of paying stuff and not owning it. That's fair enough. Yes it is in the terms of service, agreed. That doesn't mean it isn't unethical though, in my personal opinion. An opinion I'm pretty sure I'm entitled to. Clearly we all have different opinions of what's ethical and what isn't, however, so let's leave it at that. I think it's wrong, you don't. End of story.
To those who inferred I was asking for my boots back, you're wrong. I never once did anything of the sort. Get your facts straight before attacking me. Those who banged on about safety locks and dolls etc... you missed the point entirely. This was all about whether taking away stuff you paid for was right and justifiable, nothing else. If you couldn't understand the question and still decided to jump in and comment then shame on you. I've said all I need to say, if you want to keep arguing a point I never made then carry on.
You have the option of working for 5 hours for a free TV, or buying it with your own money.
You decide to buy it with your own money.
You loan it to a friend.
Through a freak accident, the TV is stolen from their truck.
Therefore, freak accidents are unethical.
Do I understand you correctly?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"I always thought I'd be the only one doing crazy things for people who would never care enough to do it back or to act like idiots or be entirely vulnerable, and making someone fall in love with you is easy, and flying 3000 miles on four days notice because you can't just sit there and do nothing and breathe into telephones is not everyone's idea of love, but it is the way I can recognize it because that is what I do."
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Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »No, I didn't oracle my way to 100. I worked damn hard for a year and spent a fortune in the process. Don't be so bloody condescending. And this thread was never about safety locks and other safeguards in the first place. You deliberately missed my point and made it about something else entirely.
Anyway, it seems clear that I'm the only who has a problem with a concept of paying stuff and not owning it. That's fair enough. Yes it is in the terms of service, agreed. That doesn't mean it isn't unethical though, in my personal opinion. An opinion I'm pretty sure I'm entitled to. Clearly we all have different opinions of what's ethical and what isn't, however, so let's leave it at that. I think it's wrong, you don't. End of story.
To those who inferred I was asking for my boots back, you're wrong. I never once did anything of the sort. Get your facts straight before attacking me. Those who banged on about safety locks and dolls etc... you missed the point entirely. This was all about whether taking away stuff you paid for was right and justifiable, nothing else. If you couldn't understand the question and still decided to jump in and comment then shame on you. I've said all I need to say, if you want to keep arguing a point I never made then carry on.
Nothing was taken from you. You gave your boots to your friend, which in turn makes those boots her's since possession is technically 9/10 of the law basically making your ownership null and void. And again it's your friend's fault for being an idiot.
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Fact of the matter is, you got what you paid for. You paid for gold. Nobody took your gold.
The fact that you decided to sell said gold and purchase other things with your profit is irrelevant. PWE didn't sell you the boots.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Evict is a sexy chalupa.
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Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »Fact of the matter is, you got what you paid for. You paid for gold. Nobody took your gold.
The fact that you decided to sell said gold and purchase other things with your profit is irrelevant. PWE didn't sell you the boots.
+1. as i said, it's like playing in a casino. packs anyone?0 -
Shulkie - Dreamweaver wrote: »don't worry about it - they only ninja'd your post by an hour or two - I am sure noone will notice b:avoid
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TesterLife - Archosaur wrote: »Don't like using this troll response but;
umadbro?
Seriously, READ THE ****ING PvP SYSTEM RULES. God damn, ignorant mother****er.
If you took this to court, you wanna know what the judge would say?
HE WOULD ****ING LAUGH YOU OUT OF THE COURT ROOM.
You sir, are awesome.
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TesterLife - Archosaur wrote: »Don't like using this troll response but;
umadbro?
Seriously, READ THE ****ING PvP SYSTEM RULES. God damn, ignorant mother****er.
If you took this to court, you wanna know what the judge would say?
HE WOULD ****ING LAUGH YOU OUT OF THE COURT ROOM.
Regarding the above: You launch an unprovoked four letter tirade in my direction and have the audacity to call ME ignorant? Too funny. The fact you, like so many others, missed the entire point of my post is neither here nor there, this reply is just stupid in every conceivable way.
Regarding the rest of the comments: Sorry I spoke. My mistake, I thought freedom of speech was my right. I didn't realise that disagreeing with and feeling passionate about something in game was a crime. I can only apologise for that. How dare I have my own thoughts and opinions. That said, nobody has argued my opinion, not one of you. LadyTsukiyo clearly sucks at debating and keeps changing the subject and everyone elaborates her irrelevant point.
It's not about safety lock, precautions or reading the terms of service. It's about whether not having ownership of what you buy is right and justifiable. I'd actually be grateful if a GM could delete this thread now. Please? Nobody is discussing the subject I raised, they're all just making the same comment about safety looks and reading the terms of service. It's all become rather pointless. Delete it and let's call it a day. I won't be using this sycophantic forum anymore.0 -
Personally I dont think anything that you can get from the cash shop regardless of how you got the gold or coins to purchase it, should not be dropped when killed.
Oh and to the OP ignore the little kids who have nothing better to do than to find a way to draw attention to themselves. Whether by writing in huge letters with bold font or cursing up a storm with no point to anything they say. It is best to not justify their actions with a response, we all know their not worth the precious time it takes to do so.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Wait a second Kasira, you remind about your own freedom of speech yet you QQ about other people using their freedom of speech to laugh at you?
You like to use proper grammar and "mature" language to sound smart, but I'll write you a few simple truths in simple sentences, you should comprehend them:
1. Read Terms of Service of games you play
2. Nothing you buy or get in-game will ever actually belong to you
3. Don't borrow money or items
4. It's F2P game, no one forces you to spend a dime
5. If you are incomfortable with PvP, play on PvE server (I suggest Dreamweaver)
6. If you post on this forums remember one fact: if you start stupid thread you will get stupid responses
7. Talking about morality in RPG is pathetic. RPG stands for role-playing game. If I choose to play a role of cold-blood killer I am allowed to do so. Does it mean I am a cold-blood killer in real life as well? Obviously, no.
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Shivalia - Lost City wrote: »First and only thing that should be said about this:
"20. Acknowledgements
You hereby acknowledge and agree that:
* (a) WHEN USING THE SERVICES, THE SOFTWARE MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) AND/OR CPU PROCESSES FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE SOFTWARE. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY "ADD-ON" OR "MOD," THAT IN PWE's SOLE DETERMINATION: (i) ENABLES OR FACILITATES CHEATING OF ANY TYPE; (ii) ALLOWS USERS TO MODIFY OR **** THE SOFTWARE INTERFACE, ENVIRONMENT, AND/OR EXPERIENCE IN ANY WAY NOT EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY PWE; OR (iii) INTERCEPTS, "MINES," OR OTHERWISE COLLECTS INFORMATION FROM OR THROUGH THE SOFTWARE. IN THE EVENT THAT THE SOFTWARE DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, IT MAY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO PWE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM WAS DETECTED; AND/OR AND PERFECT WORLD ENTERTAINMNET MAY EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS SECTION OF THE AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER.
# (b) PWE MAY MONITOR OR RECORD YOUR CHAT SESSIONS AND OTHER ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION TRANSMITTED OR RECEIVED THROUGH THE GAME OR THE SERVICE AND YOU CONSENT TO SUCH MONITORING OR RECORDING.
# (c) You may not hold PWE responsible for any loss resulting from your use of the Service or any in-game trading activities. You may not hold PWE responsible for any information that is passed between players. PWE does not guarantee the safe keeping of information that is passed between players and will not be held responsible for any resulting losses or consequences arising from the improper use of said information. You may not hold PWE responsible for any in-game feature or item loss. PWE does not guarantee the availability of any in-game items, any Services or any levels to players.
In short, you should have read the Terms of Service BEFORE even making an account, much less spending money on this game. If you don't like it, don't spend money on it.
This.
Before you can even create an account, you will have the option to click that you accept this all. So yeh, losing that gear sucks. But it isn't theft.
This is your contract with pwe. You accepted it. You signed it. You can play their games. This is their policy. They are not to blame.
End of the story.b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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These is just a case that already happen so many times in game, directly or indirectly since it's part of the PK game play.
Only thread starter makes it so complicated . . yet it actually simple . . b:bye
1, Someone can charge zen then sell it in game for coins. ($ = time)
2. Someone can do merchant business or farming for coins in game. (time = $)
3. Both of them goes to buy items worth millions coins.
4. They switch equipment to each other just for awhile
5. Both of them didn't turn on safety lock or bound their gears
6. One person purposely PK and the other one accidentally PK
7. Both of them get killed (PK) after that and drop items / equip
Will you complain to the one who PK or the company ?
Or the one who killed then lost the item you give to s/he ? b:bye
These isn't the first game that had something like that . .[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sorry i speak engrish b:chuckle
Nickname doesn't have anything to do with sailor but related to a folklore
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Um it is about safety lock. It is about buying guardian scrolls. It is about bying dolls. The fact of the matter is that you keep ignoring because you're ignorant and choose to blame pwi instead of your stupid friend. It's simple. PWI is not held reliable in any way shape or form for your friend losing your boots. You gave up ownership rights to those boots when you gave them to her, since you want to bring up ethics and the law, blah blah blah.Kasira - Harshlands wrote: »Regarding the above: You launch an unprovoked four letter tirade in my direction and have the audacity to call ME ignorant? Too funny. The fact you, like so many others, missed the entire point of my post is neither here nor there, this reply is just stupid in every conceivable way.
Regarding the rest of the comments: Sorry I spoke. My mistake, I thought freedom of speech was my right. I didn't realise that disagreeing with and feeling passionate about something in game was a crime. I can only apologise for that. How dare I have my own thoughts and opinions. That said, nobody has argued my opinion, not one of you. LadyTsukiyo clearly sucks at debating and keeps changing the subject and everyone elaborates her irrelevant point.
It's not about safety lock, precautions or reading the terms of service. It's about whether not having ownership of what you buy is right and justifiable. I'd actually be grateful if a GM could delete this thread now. Please? Nobody is discussing the subject I raised, they're all just making the same comment about safety looks and reading the terms of service. It's all become rather pointless. Delete it and let's call it a day. I won't be using this sycophantic forum anymore.
And we are debating the thread. Hell several people even quoted the Terms of Service saying that it's not Perfect World Entertainment's fault that your friend is an idiot and didn't know about the several safeguards that prevent you from dropping in the game. Your friend chose not to use them. It also says that just because you buy items through gold doesn't mean you own them, PWE just gives you the rights to use them, they're technically not your's, neither does your character actually belong to you. They let you borrow it.
The point is, the Terms of Service is a legally binding contract that you must read before you even sign up. You created a character by agreeing to the terms of service especially when it states that perfect world entertainment is not held responsible for whatever happens between two players. By rights since you can't read the terms of service you should stop playing the game as a whole. New Year, New Server.0
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